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Fantasy DB 2012
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 03-02-2012 23:18
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Hey guys,
As you probably know, I already made quite a lot of shirts for PCM (11 in total).
When I reach 50 (I know, it will take a while, perhaps I can do a 2013 DB by then  ), I am planning to make a custom DB, using my own jerseys, and custom teams. New sponsors, new colours...
Does anyone think this is interesting, and will actually play it?
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| fickman |
Posted on 03-02-2012 23:43
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I think is an interesting proyect it would be nice to try something new. My Brother and I have made a few stages an have a couple of jerseys if u want we could help u providing u with the stuff we have. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 03-02-2012 23:49
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fickman wrote:
I think is an interesting proyect it would be nice to try something new. My Brother and I have made a few stages an have a couple of jerseys if u want we could help u providing u with the stuff we have.
I forgot about stages, it would be great if you showed me your work! (both jerseys and stages)
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| Rauling |
Posted on 03-02-2012 23:54
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I wouldn't use the database. But that is also because I don't like fantasy databases. But if the interest is big then I think you should go for it.
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| fickman |
Posted on 04-02-2012 00:27
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Well nothing really special, but im getting better in making stages. Making Maillots and Accesories im not really good.
https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=21263
I have a a few more if u are interested.
And for the jerseys let me give them another try and i show them to u. Yours are better than mine. |
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 04-02-2012 02:50
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I think complete fantasy scenarios are tough to get into. Football Manager has that option to use fake names, I did it once and hated it. I think you need the history to draw you into the game.
So I think you are better off going for a what if scenario that has some base in history. LIke what if they actually implemented that crazy break-away league that was covered in cycling news where you had permanent teams and all the races were 4 days. So you keep the big tours and you keep real riders but you have new teams and all these new races.
Still not sure I would play it but I think you would need some hook to reality like that. |
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| chris01 |
Posted on 04-02-2012 03:36
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I would definately play it. It would be nice to try something new.
Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 04-02-2012 12:27
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Thanks for the comments guys! And Ulrich Ulriksen, of course the riders will keep their names
fickman, your work looks very good, keep it up!
Perhaps you could try to make less extreme stages, because they need to be something special. Maybe you can start making variants of the GT (with real mountains and roads), or we can ask an advanced stage maker to help you.
But it will take a while before we finish.
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| fickman |
Posted on 04-02-2012 12:37
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Im on vacation right now and have enaugh time, so if u have some sugestions i can try make them. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 04-02-2012 15:00
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Perhaps you could try to make a TDF, including the Puy de Dome, Alpe d'Huez and the Mont Ventoux. And of course some flat stages, hilly stages, a prologue and time trials. Like it could be the real route.
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| fickman |
Posted on 04-02-2012 15:05
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Ok I will try. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 04-02-2012 15:09
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So you can now start planning a route  . Of course the 3 mountains I named are not the only mountains, but they would be great as mountain finishes. Other mountains in this Tour would be halfway the stage, I think.
Good luck!
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| fickman |
Posted on 04-02-2012 19:03
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What do u think about this?
TDF Fantasy
Stage 1 - Les Essarts Les Essarts 23 km Team time-trial
Stage 2 - Monaco Brignoles 187 km Plain
Stage 3 - Carhaix Cap Fréhel 164.5 km Plain
Stage 4 - Blaye-les-Mines Lavaur 167.5 km Plain
Stage 5 - Aurillac Carmaux 158 km Plain
Stage 6 - Aigurande Super-Besse Sancy 189 km Medium mountains
Stage 7 - Saint-Paul-Trois-Châteaux Gap 162.5 km Medium mountains
Stage 8 - Cugnaux Luz-Ardiden 211 km High Mountains
Stage 9 - Montpellier Montpellier 39 km Individual time-trial
Rest Day
Stage 10 - Cambrai Reims 153.5 km Plain
Stage 11 - Sisteron Bourg-lès-Valence 184.5 km Plain
Stage 12 - Tournus Station des Rousses 165.5 km Medium mountains
Stage 13 - Revel Ax 3 Domaines 184.5 km High Mountains
Stage 14 - Pinerolo Galibier Serre-Chevalier 200.5 km High Mountains
Stage 15 - Montélimar Mont Ventoux 167 km High Mountains
Rest Day
Stage 16 - Épernay Montargis 187.5 km Plain
Stage 17 - Chambéry Gap 179 km Medium mountains
Stage 18 - Pau Col du Tourmalet 174 km High Mountains
Stage 19 - Embrun L'Alpe-d'Huez 210.5 km High Mountains
Stage 20 - Cholet Cholet 29.5 km Individual time-trial
Stage 21 - Créteil Paris Champs-Élysées 95 km Plain
Edited by fickman on 04-02-2012 22:36
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 04-02-2012 19:22
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Actually it should be 21 stages, I think, without counting rest days. But the route looks very good, perhaps you can make the Monaco ITT longer, and a stage with le Puy de Dome (the PdD is not far from Super-Besse, I think).
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 04-02-2012 19:40
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Gonna be specially interesting to see how the riders will cope with the mountain range changes (from Pyrenees to the Alps in two stages). ( )
And too many MTF (6 mountain stages, 6 MTFs).
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| fickman |
Posted on 04-02-2012 23:07
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What about this?
I also changed the course. |
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 04-02-2012 23:45
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247 KM with a finish on the summit of le Puy de Dome would be too long. I think 190 KM would be the maximum for a stage like that. Perhaps cut off the first part of that stage?
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| chris01 |
Posted on 05-02-2012 00:33
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I agree with Cancellara that is way too long.
Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring.
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| fcancellara |
Posted on 05-02-2012 00:58
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But fickman, remember, we are only doing criticism so you can improve
I appreciate you want to help.
Any more volunteers, by the way?
Oh, and I've got some good news. nilserik gave me permission to use all of his wonderful stages in my/our DB! If you want too see his work, go to his thread: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....rowstart=0
Edited by fcancellara on 05-02-2012 01:00
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| chris01 |
Posted on 05-02-2012 01:34
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He has a very nice TDF race but i think that his ITTs might be to long. I do like the addition of cobbles on a mountain stage though.
Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime. Teach a man to cycle and he will realize fishing is stupid and boring.
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