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Kent's Type_Rider adjustments.
Kentaurus
Okay, these changes affect what rider type each rider is at the start of a career. Currently most riders are labeled at time-trial when clearly that isn't what they should be.

This change has to be made inside of a DB, so hopefully the database people will make these adjustments, until then though they can be done manually with an editor.

the part that needs changed is STA_type_rider.

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tour
f_sprint_ratio0
f_acceleration_ratio0
f_recuperation_ratio0.15
f_mountain_ratio0.65
f_resistance_ratio0
f_time_trial_ratio0.2
f_prologue_ratio0
f_endurance_ratio0
f_plain_ratio0
f_hill_ratio0
f_cobble_ratio0
f_baroudeur_ratio0


mountain
f_sprint_ratio0
f_acceleration_ratio0.15
f_recuperation_ratio0
f_mountain_ratio0.5
f_resistance_ratio0
f_time_trial_ratio0
f_prologue_ratio0
f_endurance_ratio0
f_plain_ratio0
f_hill_ratio0.2
f_cobble_ratio0
f_baroudeur_ratio0.15


timetrial
f_sprint_ratio0
f_acceleration_ratio0
f_recuperation_ratio0
f_mountain_ratio0
f_resistance_ratio0.2
f_time_trial_ratio0.4
f_prologue_ratio0.3
f_endurance_ratio0
f_plain_ratio0.1
f_hill_ratio0
f_cobble_ratio0
f_baroudeur_ratio0


sprint
f_sprint_ratio0.5
f_acceleration_ratio0.3
f_recuperation_ratio0
f_mountain_ratio0
f_resistance_ratio0
f_time_trial_ratio0
f_prologue_ratio0
f_endurance_ratio0
f_plain_ratio0.2
f_hill_ratio0
f_cobble_ratio0
f_baroudeur_ratio0


ardennaises
f_sprint_ratio0
f_acceleration_ratio0.1
f_recuperation_ratio0
f_mountain_ratio0
f_resistance_ratio0
f_time_trial_ratio0
f_prologue_ratio0
f_endurance_ratio0.3
f_plain_ratio0
f_hill_ratio0.6
f_cobble_ratio0
f_baroudeur_ratio0


flandriennes
f_sprint_ratio0
f_acceleration_ratio0
f_recuperation_ratio0
f_mountain_ratio0
f_resistance_ratio0
f_time_trial_ratio0
f_prologue_ratio0
f_endurance_ratio0.15
f_plain_ratio0.15
f_hill_ratio0
f_cobble_ratio0.7
f_baroudeur_ratio0


flat
f_sprint_ratio0.1
f_acceleration_ratio0.1
f_recuperation_ratio0
f_mountain_ratio0
f_resistance_ratio0
f_time_trial_ratio0
f_prologue_ratio0
f_endurance_ratio0
f_plain_ratio0.5
f_hill_ratio0
f_cobble_ratio0
f_baroudeur_ratio0.3


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Lachi
I believe these numbers are used to calculate the AVG value. I will check tomorrow but you should be careful when editing such tables.
 
Kentaurus
Lachi wrote:
I believe these numbers are used to calculate the AVG value. I will check tomorrow but you should be careful when editing such tables.


They don't calculate average anymore, not sure what does, but I just tested to see if the values changed as I adjusted and they didn't.
Edited by Kentaurus on 26-06-2013 00:44
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Lachi
As far as I know, the AVG will not be calculated immediately.
 
Kentaurus
Lachi wrote:
As far as I know, the AVG will not be calculated immediately.


Not sure when it does, just simulated 3 months of a season, no changes. Either way, the values aren't that different, no one will be move than a point off of their previous average.
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CountArach
Thanks Kentaurus, this really improves rider classifications and makes the development of young riders much more true to life.
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Matt97
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.
 
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Jesleyh
Matt97 wrote:
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.

It works with Lachi's for me.
Though I edited a lot of stats as well, so I can't share it. Wink
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Kentaurus
Jesleyh wrote:
Matt97 wrote:
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.

It works with Lachi's for me.
Though I edited a lot of stats as well, so I can't share it. Wink

It should save without a problem. I'd upload mine, but I've already edited the hell out of it in other aspects also.
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Matt97
Kentaurus wrote:
Jesleyh wrote:
Matt97 wrote:
Could someone share his or her .cdb? I'm trying to put it in the PCMdailyRealNameDB-AngloEdition-2013NC.cdb but it doesn't save the content in both Full and Fast Editor.

It works with Lachi's for me.
Though I edited a lot of stats as well, so I can't share it. Wink

It should save without a problem. I'd upload mine, but I've already edited the hell out of it in other aspects also.


That's online positive for the game I think Smile
 
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lluuiiggii
If anyone still needs, here's the "original" PCM.daily Real Name DB with Kentaurus updated STA_type_rider (oh, and nice job, rider types are looking good now Smile)
lluuiiggii attached the following file:
pcmdailyrealnamedb-fix.cdb [424.03kB / 331 Downloads]

 
Cracu
Thank you but what should I do with this file ? Does this file also rectify riders favourite races (i.e., with PCMdailyRealNameDB, Jurgen VDB favourite races are Giro and Vuelta or in reality, it's TDF)?
 
lluuiiggii
You should place it in My Docs/PCM13/Mod/Database (and then choose it in game). It doesn't rectify rider favorite races, it's the exact same thing as PCMDaily's Real Name DB (the 2013 NC Anglo version btw) just with corrected type_rider values Wink

As for why VDB has Giro and Vuelta, actually he has no favorite races set in the DB, meaning he'll get random fav races according to his nationality/type of rider in each career.
 
Cracu
Thank you lluuiiggii ;-)

For VDB, with the original database, his fav races are TDF and Dauphiné, wich is the truth. Does it have an impact on the game ? Is it possible to change it (with an editor)?

Thanks again for your answers.
 
nutter453
I've made the exact same changes to the STA_type_rider as the file lluuiiggii posted but for some reason with mine all the riders show up as Punchers but his works... I'm not sure what I've done wrong.

I've attached my database if anyone can help. (My save that I'm playing) I've made the same changes to the main database, which is the PCMdailyAngloedition with 2013NC's which gave me the same results

Thanks for any help
nutter453 attached the following file:
auchan.cdb [951.43kB / 308 Downloads]
 
Jesleyh
nutter453 wrote:
I've made the exact same changes to the STA_type_rider as the file lluuiiggii posted but for some reason with mine all the riders show up as Punchers but his works... I'm not sure what I've done wrong.

I've attached my database if anyone can help. (My save that I'm playing) I've made the same changes to the main database, which is the PCMdailyAngloedition with 2013NC's which gave me the same results

Thanks for any help

Nah, you're wrong.
f_baroudeur_ratio was still listed at 0,15 in your .cdb.

Attached .cdb fixes it. Wink
Jesleyh attached the following file:
auchan_1.cdb [951.43kB / 306 Downloads]

Edited by Jesleyh on 30-06-2013 18:42
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nutter453
Jesleyh wrote:
nutter453 wrote:
I've made the exact same changes to the STA_type_rider as the file lluuiiggii posted but for some reason with mine all the riders show up as Punchers but his works... I'm not sure what I've done wrong.

I've attached my database if anyone can help. (My save that I'm playing) I've made the same changes to the main database, which is the PCMdailyAngloedition with 2013NC's which gave me the same results

Thanks for any help

Nah, you're wrong.
f_baroudeur_ratio was still listed at 0,15 in your .cdb.

Attached .cdb fixes it. Wink


Ahh, I knew I would miss something. EmbarassedThat explains why literally every rider was listed as a Puncher.
Cheers Grin
 
Whomario
does this now work in an ongoing career ? Just changed the values and no display has been corrected (f.e. Kittel/Degenkolb still not as sprinters)
 
Lachi
As far as I know, it does not apply immediately. Did you go to the next day or next week?
 
Whomario
Lachi wrote:
As far as I know, it does not apply immediately. Did you go to the next day or next week?


next day, yes. Will copy the save and try for the beginning of the next month.
Edited by Whomario on 15-07-2013 13:55
 
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