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2024 Aggregate Predictions
seancoll
CT Aggregate Predictions


8 managers provided CT rankings heading into the start of the season with a wide range of methodologies. In all CT rankings, we only include the final rankings of a manager, even when there are sub-rankings within their predictions (because those subrankings are already factored in). Many thanks to all who contributed rankings to help us prepare for the season and spice up the conversation - please give them a look and support if you haven't already

Compiled Rankings

SCKBL147UUCaspiJTAbhiCr14
Air New Zealand-Alfa Romeo1818181816171515
Babymetal1517161511141713
Cervélo Test Team116136116102
Duvel-Tsingtao1215445263
Ethiopian Airlines1391210117135
Euskadi-Murias1612151211121216
Euskotren - Pays Basque5161491613712
Genii Hyundai N Cycling9111113169510
Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team32335414
Glanbia148101616181114
Hilcona Racing Team1714171416161818
Newton Foundation p/b Zwift11111131
SEE Turtles458175151417
Simba Cement - Tanga Fresh836553911
Spark Team NZ7757510169
Team Würth MODYF24285528
Trans Looney Tunes61092111146
Zain-Omantel10137115887



Upon first glance, it is easy to see two major trends. A select number of teams have consistent top of table rankings OR bottom of table rankings; while the vast majority of teams hold a high range of expectations from promotion to bottom 5. This shows us just how wide open the majority of the CT field is this year with a few predicted exceptions.

Combined Rankings


MeanMedianRange
Newton Foundation p/b Zwift1.2512
Gjensidige Pro Cycling Team3.12534
Team Würth MODYF4.54.56
Simba Cement - Tanga Fresh6.255.58
Duvel-Tsingtao6.3754.513
Trans Looney Tunes7.3757.59
Cervélo Test Team8.125811
Spark Team NZ8.25711
Zain-Omantel8.62588
Ethiopian Airlines1010.58
Genii Hyundai N Cycling10.510.511
SEE Turtles10.6251113
Euskotren - Pays Basque11.512.511
Euskadi-Murias13.25125
Glanbia13.3751410
Babymetal14.75156
Hilcona Racing Team16.2516.55
Air New Zealand-Alfa Romeo16.87517.53



Looking at the combined rankings, Newton Foundation p/b Zwift takes the top spot! (but no one needed a full post to know that). Gjensidige should be expected in the top positions as well and comes through as a clear #2 by both median and mean predictions. Team Würth MODYF is the final clear promotion candidate when combining both median and mean predictions.

Past the top three, there's a few pockets of teams best discussed together. The battle from 4th - 9th is a measly 2.4 average score difference. Simba Cement-Tanga Fresh and Duvel-Tsingtao are the clear leaders of this group, but the differences are not enough to automatically slot them into promotion, especially when Duvel-Tsingtao has a 13 ranking difference from their top expectation to their last.

Cervelo and Trans Looney Tunes also stand out as two teams with a 2nd place expectation to their name, but with much wider ranges of rankings. The sit as the clearest teams to challenge for promotion. Spark Team NZ is a challenging team to evaluate due to the range in scoring but high median ranking. We'll see whether the signing of George Bennett truly makes the expected change. Zain-Omantel holds up this group with a reliance on Carapaz to move up.

There's a second major mid-table pocket off teams between Ethiopian Airlines and Euskotren-Pays Basque. All four of these teams have major red flags in their predictions, but have at least one manager predicting a promotion finish.

Finally, there is a bit of consensus around the final teams in the division. Still each has some significant upside and is well positioned for a push up the table, at least next year if this year doesn't work out.


Individual Ranking Information:
Spoiler
sc=Seancoll Lazy Predictions -https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...d_id=67876
KB = Kandesbunzler26; Lazy prediction
l147=Laurens147; Lazy Prediction
UU - Ulrich Ulriksen; Lazy Prediction
Caspi-Caspi; Lazy Prediction, teams in a section received the median of that group
Jt1109; CT Data Driven -overall only; https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...rowstart=0
Abhi-AbhishekLFC; Statistical Analysis https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...d_id=67915
Cr14-Croatia 14; https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...d_id=67938; Order based on order of jerseys, correcting the two accidental jersey switches during discussion

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seancoll
PCT Aggregate Rankings


Again, 8 managers provided PCT rankings heading into the season with a number of different strategies. In all PCT rankings, we only include the final rankings of a manager, even when there are sub-rankings within their predictions (because those subrankings are already factored in). Many thanks to all who contributed rankings to help us prepare for the season and spice up the conversation - please give them a look and support if you haven't already.

Compiled Rankings


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Benetton Bimex Cycling79121918171514
Bralirwa - Cegeka410111569186
DK Žalgiris9119658610
Ekoi - Le Creuset1723192120191219
ELCO - ABEA21213411
Everesting1218172012142412
Indosat Ooredoo56578585
ISA - Hexacta83429254
JEWA TIROL Cycling Team2221232221221922
Kraftwerk Man Machine20151681618716
Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam64131327
Llapi-Vita2120142323232123
Lotto-Caloi168201319131321
Manada Coyote2422221717212220
McCormick Pro Cycling18761014122013
Minions151210976108
Podium Ambition2324242424242324
Sauber Petronas Racing1314181613151617
Sony - Force India32352132
Specialized1113131111101411
Tafjord Kraft191721182220918
Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska101915141516715
Team UBS141671241149
Tryg - Eni1584107113


My first take away from the pure rankings is how many teams have a very tight spread within their expectations. This ranges from teams at the very top of the rankings - for example ELCO - ABEA, to the very bottom of the rankings - for example Podium Ambition. Still, there are even some mid-table teams like Specialized who hold a very tight range of expectations, no matter which teams are slated above or below them. Overall, these rankings feel much more divided than CT by a significant margin.

Combined Rankings


MeanMedianRange
ELCO - ABEA1.8751.53
Sony - Force India2.6252.54
Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam3.37536
ISA - Hexacta4.62547
Indosat Ooredoo6.1255.53
Tryg - Eni6.125610
DK Žalgiris88.56
Minions9.6259.59
Team UBS9.6251012
Bralirwa - Cegeka9.8759.514
Specialized11.75114
McCormick Pro Cycling12.512.512
Benetton Bimex Cycling13.87514.512
Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska13.8751512
Kraftwerk Man Machine14.51613
Sauber Petronas Racing15.2515.55
Lotto-Caloi15.37514.513
Everesting16.12515.512
Tafjord Kraft1818.512
Ekoi - Le Creuset18.75196
Manada Coyote20.62521.57
Llapi-Vita21229
JEWA TIROL Cycling Team21.5224
Podium Ambition23.75241



Let's start at the bottom of the team rankings this time, where 7 of the bottom 8 teams are the promoting teams from the 2023 season. Heading into the transfer season, there were expectations that it would be a challenging endeavor to build deep rosters and this appears to have held true. Llapi-Vita has already hit some good momentum in the Down Under Classic as the year starts, but they clearly have a steep road to climb alongside Manada Coyote, JEWA TIROL, and Podium Ambition. Ekoi-Le Creuset and Tafjord Kraft have served significantly better in the rankings, but not high enough to push them out of the potential relegation battle.

Moving up into those slated to hold in PCT, there's a major grouping from Benetton Bimex Cycling in 13th place down to Everesting in 18th. This group is characterized by high variable rankings with everyone sporting a range of 12 or 13 except for Sauber Petronas Racing, who holds firm around 15-16th in most rankings. This should be a bit of a worry for Sauber where if all the other teams hit their highest expectations, Sauber will see the short end of the stick. In addition to their characterization with high range, this group is represented by a lack of significant GC leadership, outside of Benetton's combo of Reis and Powless.

McCormick and Specialized sit in a small grouping of their own, right outside the top 10. Their teams have depth, outside leadership potential, and high levels of faith from at least some rankings. Specialized has the more consistent rankings and should be considered a mid-table lock unless all eight rankings missed something in their structure.

The 7-10 range of teams is tightly packed, led by DK Zalgiris. No incredibly high rankings for them, but a number of borderline promotion rankings and absolutely no one expecting a bad season put them in a strong position to punch above their ranking as opposed to down. Minions, Team UBS, and Bralirwa - Stevens hold the remaining top 10 positions, each with a slightly less level of certainty. Bralirwa-Stevens has the highest range of any team in the division - that's the cost of Girmay. Minions at 8th is the lowest ranked of the relegating teams after not being able to sell Kinoshita in the offseason. Still, he should be able to provide another year of success here in PCT.

5th and 6th is a deadlock between Indosat Ooredoo and Tryg-Eni. Indosat is one of the most consistent rankings of teams in the rankings, where 5th-8th looks like their sweetspot. Tryg-Eni has a bit more variability, with rankings from 1st to 11th. They'll need more consistency from Demare, which is always a challenge in sprint races.

The top 4 teams each seem secure in their positions with clear delineations in the rankings. ELCO-ABEA is a huge favorite with 4 first place votes and nothing lower than 4th. A strong team on every terrain, they seem prepped to best utilize their RD and return quickly back to PT. Sony - Force India worked a masterful transfer season as well to provide high levels of confidence. 7 rankings in the top 3 have cemented their expectation to head up as well.

Lierse SK- Pizza Ullo PCTeam has expressed slightly less confidence, from both rankings and manager, but they still sit 3rd without question. 6 promotion rankings highlight their strong GC capabilities from Oomen and ability to score across the board. That leaves ISA-Hexacta in the 4th - a range of expectations here, but two 2nd place expectations lead the charge for the just relegated team. They've got a significant buffer over those 5th/6th in the rankings and should have confidence in their ability to return to the top level next year.


The biggest takeaways in these rankings appear to be:
- A true challenge for promoting teams to make a difference in this year's PCT battle
- A relatively secure top of the rankings with much less clarity for teams from 10th - 18th
- Lots of potential upside for individual teams with 15 teams receiving at least 1 top 8 ranking


Individual ranking info:
Spoiler

sc=Seancoll -https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...d_id=67876
jph27= jph27; Lazy prediction
l147=Laurens147; Lazy Prediction
UU - Ulrich Ulriksen; Lazy Prediction
red=redordead; redordead's 2024 PCT Prediction: https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...d_id=67891
KO= knockout; Knockouts Quick PT+PCT Preview 2024; https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...d_id=67944
Abhi-AbhishekLFC; Statistical Analysis https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewth...hread.php?thread_id=67915
Cr14-Croatia 14; <a href="https://www.pcmdaily.com/fo...=67938;


Edited by seancoll on 15-10-2024 02:43
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seancoll
PT Aggregate Rankings


A little delayed preview to allow a final prediction or two pop up leave the PT ranks with 6 counting predictions this year from 5 different managers. Many thanks to all involved in the discussion and predictions this year across all divisions!

Compiled Rankings


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Aker - MOT16101011217
Assa Abloy19151514229
Carlsberg - Danske Bank111919151313
Cedevita141618161015
cycleYorkshire171820101811
EA Vesuvio71314222
Evonik - ELKO311311
Fastned62016936
Gazelle13444158
Grieg-Maersk491318910
Jura GIANTS201717221722
King Power166153
Lidl Cycling2278201919
MOL Cycling Team102222191417
Moser - Sygic21811121212
Oxxo - Frisby5212181616
Polar1232544
Rabobank181277814
Team Puma - SAP825675
Tinkoff Team - La Datcha211917621
Xero Racing953132018
ZARA - Irizar151412211120



Our compiled rankings show a couple stand-out teams, but otherwise a diverse array of rankings across the board, including Tinkoff Team-La Datcha with a 2nd place and a 2nd to last place ranking. Fastned and Xero are similar but for 3rd places. The combined rankings will show much more detail, but even these show us that this is a top-heavy division, with much more fighting to be found in the mid-pack and relegation battle than at the top.

Combined Rankings


MeanMedianRange
Evonik - ELKO1.66666666712
King Power3.66666666745
Polar549
Team Puma - SAP5.55.56
EA Vesuvio6.6666666674.512
Gazelle8611
Fastned107.517
Grieg-Maersk10.59.514
Rabobank111011
Tinkoff Team - La Datcha111019
Xero Racing11.333333331117
Aker - MOT12.510.514
Moser - Sygic12.666666671213
Oxxo - Frisby14.51616
Cedevita14.8333333315.58
Carlsberg - Danske Bank15148
ZARA - Irizar15.514.59
Assa Abloy15.666666671513
cycleYorkshire15.6666666717.510
Lidl Cycling15.833333331915
MOL Cycling Team17.333333331812
Jura GIANTS19.1666666718.55


Only 6 teams have a mean ranking under 10, showing just how complicated these predictions were this year and how tight the battle could be. Evonik-ELKO is the clear favorite I wonder why... and behind them there's a solid grouping of teams expected in the top 6 - especially as shown by the median rankings. Everyone from Gazelle and up is a true top 3 contender.

Fastned leads the promoting teams into the 7th spot in the aggregate predictions with a very solid set of rankings. The investment in Phinney is a clear part here - as it should be. Looking at mean rankings alone, they lead the competition for the top 10 with Grieg-Maersk, Rabobank, Tinkoff Team - La Datcha, Xero Racing, Aker-MOT, and Moser-Sygic. There isn't much to differentiate the teams, especially since almost all of them at had least one top 6 rankings with many even higher.

Oxxo-Frisby leads the next tier of teams that slides all the way to Lidl Cycling and the relegation positions. Carlsberg had the least variation within this group and are probably the most likely to stay up, as are Zara-Irizar, but those bank on teams living up to their worst rankings more than their best. Always tough to know how to compare teams in this section, especially at the PT level where depth scoring can truly bolster a roster and is one of the more challenging predictions to make.

MOL Cycling and Jura GIANTS certainly have chances to push up above their low combined rankings, but they have the odds stacked against them at this point. Nothing either of these teams can't overcome, but some surprise wins would go a long way.

Individual ranking information:
Spoiler

KB=kandesbunzler26 -https://www.pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=67876
jph27= jph27; Lazy prediction Original + V2
KO= knockout; Knockouts Quick PT+PCT Preview 2024; https://www.pcmda...d_id=67944
Abhi-AbhishekLFC; Statistical Analysis https://www.pcmda...d_id=67915
Cr14-Croatia 14; https://www.pcmda..._id=67938;

Edited by seancoll on 25-10-2024 21:42
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knockout
seancoll wrote:
This shows us just how wide open the majority of the CT field is this year with a few predicted exceptions.


Imo this should be one of the key takeaways from the CT predictions this year. In many past seasons, the quality difference between teams seemed the widest in CT with many teams seemingly quite locked in a certain region of the ranking. This year, it feels a lot more open and there is a much larger number of teams where promotions seems feasible if things go their way.
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Caspi
seancoll wrote:

Past the top three, there's a few pockets of teams best discussed together. The battle from 4th - 9th is a measly 2.4 average score difference. Simba Cement-Tanga Fresh and Duvel-Tsingtao are the clear leaders of this group, but the differences are not enough to automatically slot them into promotion


What a thrilling season we're heading into Grin
 
seancoll
PCT rankings are now posted!
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Laurens147
Thanks sean for the recap Smile It will be an interesting PCT season, that's for sure!
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Thanks for pulling all of this together, sean. Of course in the CT, it looks competitive based on the discrepancy in predictions and that's a clear message, but I had another takeaway.

For the first time I've seen in a little while, it seems a number of the teams relegating from PCT have taken the opportunity to do a full reset and perhaps build more of their regional focuses. Which of course is welcomed for the new managers gunning for promotion straightaway. I think jt, Dippofix, Aycon and myself have been helped by the PCT-relegated teams (aside from Newton) clearing the decks and resetting - at least that's what I would hope happened rather than stagnation.

Interesting to see people think PCT will be similarly stratified, with SotD clearly building a highly competitive ELCO, Abhi's Sony being pushed over the line by Olivier, and Lierse's talent factory paying dividends. But then it gets messy real fast, all the way down to Podium Ambition (which of course leads the PCT in vibez, anyway).

A fun season incoming, clearly!
 
whitejersey
The huge range in PCT really paints the picture that the middle of the pack is very murky water where anything goes this season, going to be a blast following the races this year! Thanks for aggregating these Sean!
 
seancoll
Sorry for the delay on PT rankings, which are now up. Hopefully folks enjoy and are able to provide a bit more depth than I could, but wanted to make sure they were up before first rankings.
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