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Imladrik |
Posted on 19-10-2023 18:17
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Cobbles time! After Portugal (Viana do Castelo) and Belgium (Oloop Het Nieuwsblad, Gent-Wevelgem), the peloton goes in the Jutland region of Denmark, for 188,5 km of cobbled roads. All the race is mostly flat, but there are some bumps here and there on the road. Nothing that should trouble the riders too much. It usually comes down to a sprint between a small group with the best cobblers in it. But first, let’s have a look at history.
2022 | Sameera Chatarunga (Bianchi - Panerai) | 2021 | Amund Grondahl Jansen (Aker - MOT) | 2020 | Bert-Jan Lindeman (Minions) | 2019 | Niki Ostergaard (Carlsberg - Danske Bank) | 2018 | Geraint Thomas (Podium Ambition) | 2017 | Geraint Thomas (Podium Ambition) |
1 | Sameera Chatarunga | Bianchi - Panerai | 4h35'03 | 2 | Ramon Domene | Caja Rural Cycling Team | s.t. | 3 | Andrew Fenn | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | s.t. | 4 | Ramon Sinkeldam | Caja Rural Cycling Team | s.t. | 5 | Christoph Taubel | Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller | s.t. | 6 | Yves Lampaert | Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint | s.t. | 7 | Viktor Manakov | Bianchi - Panerai | s.t. | 8 | Sep Vanmarcke | Pas Normal Studios - Mikkeller | s.t. | 9 | Janis Dakteris | Bianchi - Panerai | + 41 | 10 | Karel Hnik | Bianchi - Panerai | + 1'10 | 11 | Chequan Richardson | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | s.t. | 12 | Miha Poljanec | Cedevita | + 1'37 | 13 | Lahcen Saber | Colombini-Adler Aalterpaint | s.t. | 14 | Marek Konwa | Caja Rural Cycling Team | s.t. | 15 | Nihal Silva | Bianchi - Panerai | s.t. | 16 | Jon Ander Insausti | Bordeaux Metropole - Euskotren | s.t. | 17 | Darren Matthews | Podium Ambition | s.t. | 18 | Tomas Paprstka | BWT Hyundai N Cycling | s.t. | 19 | Alexander Edmondson | Bonduelle - Eesti Energia | s.t. | 20 | Tim Declerq | Caja Rural Cycling Team | s.t. | 21 | Damien Touze | Bonduelle - Eesti Energia | s.t. | 22 | Ivan Siric | Cedevita | s.t. | 23 | Tim Ariesen | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | s.t. | 24 | German Anibal Orue | BNZ-Superhero Racing | s.t. | 25 | Jakob Rathe | McCormick Pro Cycling | s.t. | 26 | Mikiel Habtom | Bianchi - Panerai | s.t. | 27 | Jay Major | Podium Ambition | s.t. |
Since Geraint Thomas’ fourth victory (3rd in a row) in 2018 – and the race demotion in C2, we haven’t had the same winner two times. That might change this year, as Chatarunga is back with a new team, Crabbe-CC Chevigny.
| FL | ST | RS | CB | SP | AC | Christoph Taubel | 73 | 69 | 73 | 78 | 61 | 64 | Chequan Richardson | 71 | 68 | 68 | 78 | 60 | 61 | Matteo Trentin | 71 | 71 | 66 | 78 | 72 | 71 | Yves Lampaert | 75 | 74 | 73 | 78 | 60 | 61 | Lucas Manuel Gaday | 71 | 75 | 72 | 78 | 71 | 73 | Logan Owen | 73 | 73 | 71 | 78 | 64 | 71 | Sameera Chatarunga | 72 | 79 | 72 | 77 | 70 | 68 | Vegard Breen | 76 | 70 | 70 | 77 | 72 | 70 | Olli Kulppi | 73 | 73 | 69 | 77 | 65 | 70 | Sam Bewley | 71 | 68 | 66 | 76 | 76 | 73 | Matthew Teggart | 73 | 76 | 73 | 76 | 72 | 70 | Yoeri Havik | 73 | 74 | 68 | 76 | 79 | 76 | Martin Schäppi | 72 | 74 | 72 | 76 | 66 | 68 | Arnaud Grand | 71 | 72 | 68 | 76 | 64 | 63 |
Chatarunga will have a hard time repeating his victory: not only there are better cobblers than him, but some of them have very great support. In this regard, Gaday probably is the best placed to take home the win: He’s one of the best on the terrain, has an excellent stamina and resistance, he’s more than able to sprint and he’s got an excellent lieutenant in the name of Owen. He could be very hard to beat.
One of his main opponents could be Breen, who’s got the advantage to be one of the best on the flat, though his physical capacities might be lacking. Moreover, he’ll be accompanied by Kulppi, an excellent cobbler also.
Other outsiders are Podium Ambition, whose leader might instead be Matthews, a lesser cobbler but better sprinter, Saeco, if they can bring Trentin to the leading group, or Stela-Vita, who have depth and something as a double threat with Lampaert and Merlier.
Legend Bewley can’t be dismissed as a potential winner, though he’s not the rider he has been, and has been left quite alone by Adidas Eurocash.
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Spoiler Bewley | Sam | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Gradek | Kamil | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Ballerstedt | Maurice | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Osborne | Jason | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Lo Cicero | Ivano | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Stepniak | Grzegorz | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Laton | Eryk | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Braun | Julian | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Adidas - Eurocash | Yamada | Takumi | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | Muhammad | Yuda | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | Johnson | Cooper | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | Kawasaki | Miori | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | McGill | Scott | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | Deelstra | Huub | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | De Laat | Jasper | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | Dzervus | Darijus | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Babymetal Cycling | Teggart | Matthew | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - Stevens | Habimana | Jean Eric | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - Stevens | Mugisha | Moise | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - Stevens | Berhe | Welay Hagos | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - Stevens | Van Eetvelt | Lennert | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - Stevens | Willems | Jago | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Bralirwa - Stevens | Domene | Ramon | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Sinkeldam | Ramon | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Garcia Pierna | Raul | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Adriamihajanarivo | Herizo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Serrano | Gonzalo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Guardini | Andrea | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Balloni | Alfredo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Intxausti | Benat | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Caja Rural Cycling Team | Chatarunga | Sameera | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Rathe | Jakob | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Devriendt | Tom | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Van Den Bossche | Fabio | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Berckmoes | Jenno | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Smirnovs | Andris | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Rubenis | Pauls | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Price-Pejtersen | Johan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Crabbe-CC Chevigny | Havik | Yoeri | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Kuypers | Gerben | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Huppertz | Joshua | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Richardson | Alexander | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Aebi | Antoine | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Johanson | Kristjan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Banzer | Gordian | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hilcona Racing Team | Taubel | Christoph | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Schlechter | Pit | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Livyns | Arjen | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Laurance | Axel | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Kabas | Maximilian | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Selig | Rüdiger | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Malori | Adrian | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Muhlberger | Gregor | | | | | | | | | | | | | | JEWA TIROL | Murillo | Luis Esteban | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Ruiz | Bredio | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Samudio | Joseph Ivan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Cadena | Edgar | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Gomez | German Dario | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Granados | Kevin | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Bulux | Fredy Domingo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Rojas | Gabriel Francisco | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Manada Coyote | Richardson | Chequan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Matthews | Darren | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Campbell | Akil | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Gayral | Joshua | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Major | Jay | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Hennis | Hasani | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Pons | Gaetan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Kelly | Jacob | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Podium Ambition | Trentin | Matteo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | McLay | Dan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Franco | Alejandro | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Petrucci | Mattia | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Skivild | Robin Juel | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Zambanini | Edoardo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Verre | Alessandro | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Blanca Pareja | Nichol | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Saeco | Lampaert | Yves | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Merlier | Tim | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Batmunkh | Maral-Erdene | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Allegaert | Piet | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Sarreau | Marc | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Touze | Damien | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Yzeiraj | Marildo | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Villella | Davide | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Stela-Vita | Gaday | Lucas Manuel | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Owen | Logan | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Nielsen | Joanis Albert | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Sbaragli | Kristian | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Tarvis | Peeter | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Sirironnachai | Sarawut | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Maesen | William | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Strava | Breen | Vegard | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Kulppi | Olli | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Kaislavuo | Jesse | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Eriksson | Lucas | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Belevics | Arturs | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Bertilsson | Christian | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Waersted | Syver | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Eislers | Ingus | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Tafjord Kraft | Schäppi | Martin | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team UBS - Tissot | Grand | Arnaud | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team UBS - Tissot | Balmer | Alexandre | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team UBS - Tissot | Blum | Elia | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team UBS - Tissot | Reichenbach | Sebastien | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team UBS - Tissot | Fominykh | Daniil | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team UBS - Tissot | Finkst | Tilen | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Koch | Jonas | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Heinrich | Nicolas | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Goossens | Kobe | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Willwohl | Willi | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Vangheluwe | Warre | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Lehtinen | Sakari | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF | Stalberg | Albin | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Team Würth MODYF |
Edited by Imladrik on 19-10-2023 18:20
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Imladrik |
Posted on 19-10-2023 18:18
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Bets are open!
“...the secret of the Great Stories is that they have no secrets. The Great Stories are the ones you have heard and want to hear again. The ones you can enter anywhere and inhabit comfortably."
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 19-10-2023 18:20
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I remember when we used to DOMINATE this race with Geraint, back in the good ol' days of the first Podium Ambition rise. As it these days we'll need a bit of luck for Chequan/Matthews to do well, but never say never!
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cunego59 |
Posted on 19-10-2023 18:35
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Our first C2 race of the year, fun to see Teggart on the list of favorites and I do think he has a decent shot at the Top 5-10 on a good day. He doesn't have much support, but hopefully Jean Eric Habimana will be with him at least for a bit.
Gaday is the favorite in my opinion, but this is wide open. Would be neat to see former Bralirwa rider Lampaert do well, too!
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baseballlover312 |
Posted on 19-10-2023 19:13
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Damn, it's already been 4 years since Ostergaard's victory. Rooting hard for bewley here.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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Blasing |
Posted on 19-10-2023 19:28
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I hope Taubel can finally shine a bit.
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Bjartne |
Posted on 20-10-2023 07:57
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Thank you for the nice preview Imladrik!
Anything less than a triple win here will be disappointing |
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Fabianski |
Posted on 20-10-2023 12:24
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Breen for back-to-back here? I guess pure cobbles strength should be most important here, but some good flat and sprint won't hurt. And you definitely don't want to take Havik or Bewley to the line - I guess both of them are looking to improve on a rather disappointing G-W. Or PCT stealing the win with Teggart? Could be a very open race, looking forward to the report (despite missing out on this, due to the Samyn clash)
Good luck to all!
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cunego59 |
Posted on 20-10-2023 18:10
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Bjartne wrote:
Thank you for the nice preview Imladrik!
Anything less than a triple win here will be disappointing
Close Tafjord are a menace on C2 cobbles! Congrats to Gaday and Strava, though, impressive win.
Very happy with 5th place for Teggart, well done! Second best C2 result we've had as a PCT team, I believe. And even if it's just outside the points, 28th is a really solid result for Habimana, too.
And thank you for the great report, WJ. Pleasure to read!
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 20-10-2023 18:33
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Goddamnit! Major on the same time as the winner, but can't make use of his superior sprint. 10th & 11th after the disaster of GW.
Now i'm not calling the promotion chase dead... but it's kinda feeling dead already... And i'm not sure i have another 4+ years of this in me to keep building more leader capable Caribbeans. I hate having expectations, it's not fun.
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Laurens147 |
Posted on 20-10-2023 18:41
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Another solid performance from Chatarunga, an active race from him and Rathe.
Gives me courage for the coming weeks
Congrats to Strava and Bjartne, and thanks WJ for the report!
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Fabianski |
Posted on 20-10-2023 21:15
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Congrats to Strava, Gaday showing that he's simply the most well-rounded cobbler of the division. However, that Tafjord streak of double-podiums is just insane!
Obviously both Breen and Kulppi are strong cobblers, but it's still surprising that others (especially stronger cobblers) just can't beat them! At least on the cobbles they underline their status of title favourites - great job!
Big result also for Teggart, still regretting not having the funds to get him when he was available (looking at my comments lately, I guess I was after pretty much every rider, though ^^). Very solid C2 result for UBS as well, good job by Grand & Schäppi!
Thanks to WJ for the report, and to Imladrik for the preview
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Croatia14 |
Posted on 21-10-2023 07:04
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Strava magic on the cobbles is back!
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Bjartne |
Posted on 21-10-2023 22:23
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Wow, we're not used to podiums, yet alone this
Hopefully there are a lot more cobbles left this season
Congrats to Strava with that monster fiinish and to whitejersey for the awesome reporting! |
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Noutisgoud |
Posted on 25-10-2023 17:49
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Great 4th place for Havik. Next time hopefully for the win |
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TheUlamog |
Posted on 02-06-2024 13:59
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Having no real expectations of this race, seeing 2 of our youngsters get into a break is a real treat! The end results is to be expected. Comgrats to Strava, amazing ride! |
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