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Lidl Cycling | PT 2023 | January Review
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Lidl Cycling 2023


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Team History

Team Dyson
2012
[D2] 11th

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Team [14 riders]:
Simon Gaywood Shaun Higgerson
Charles Wegelius Tijs Crombez
Ed Clancy Cyril Lemoine
Tom Southam Daniel Eliad
Matthew Gee Ignacio Sarabia
Rhys Lloyd Marco Brus
Kieran Page Ken Sebastian Vassdal


Evian - MIAT
2013
[PCT] 19th

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Team [26 riders]:
José Serpa Danilo Napolitano
Cayetano Sarmiento Federico Rocchetti
Isaac Bolivar Andrea Guardini
Martin Puusepp Mohamed Shawal Anuar Aziz [Loan]
Blaise Sonnerypcmdaily.com/images/flags/MN.png Tuguldur Tuulhangai
Adrien Petitpcmdaily.com/images/flags/MN.png Maani Altanzul
Clement Koretzky [Loan]pcmdaily.com/images/flags/MN.png Baasankhuu Myagmarsuren
Bryan Coquard [Loan] Andreas Landa
Maxime Daniel [Loan] Mustafa Carsi
Romain Bardet Maksym Averin
Alexis Gougeard [Loan] Daniel Ricardo Diaz
Jerome Mainard Carlos Alexandre Manarelli
Charalampas Kastrantas [Loan] Roy Goldstein
Loaned out [1 rider]:
Marco Brus


La Vie Claire
2014
[PCT] 9th


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Team [20 riders] :
Daniel Ricardo Diaz Roy Goldstein
Michael Boroš [Loan] Alessandro Proni
René Mandri Maani Altanzul
Cyril Gautier Tom Jelte Slagter [Loan]
John Gadret Kai Reus
Kenny Elissonde Piotr Mazur
Sébastien Turgot Dane Steve Nugara
Blaise Sonnery Ishan Sandakelum
Jocelin Maillet Laxmen Wijerathna
Heinrich Haussler Mustafa Carsi
Loaned Out:
Adrien Petit Yoann Bagot
Andrea Guardini


Ayubowan!
2015
[PT] 22nd

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Team [22 riders]:
Thibaut Pinot Maxime Bouet
Cyril Gautier Christopher De Souza
Romain Vanderbiest Ludovic Bret
Kenny Elissonde Ronan Racault
Blel Kadri Alexis Dulin
Adrien Petit Asela Sisira
Anthony Roux Ishan Sandakelum
Damien Gaudin Dane Steve Nugara
Alexis Vuillermoz Tushantha Rajapakshage
Johan Le Bon Nidush Nirantha Fernando
Yannick Martinez Laxmen Wijerathna


Ayubowan!
2016
[PCT] 8th

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Team [20 riders]:
Cyril Gautier Asela Sisira
Thibaut Pinot Naveen Ruchira
Adrien Petit Sujith Silva
Tony Gallopin Sameera Chatarunga
Christophe Laporte Madushanka Perera
Ian Bibby Tushantha Rajapakshage
Jonathan Bellis Nihal Silva
Adam Yates Suranga Ranaweera
Chris Opie Sachin Dulanjana [Loan]
Hugh Carthy Amith Udaya Kumara
Loaned out [2 riders]:
Sanju Dimantha Sembukutti Nidush Nirantha Fernando


Ayubowan!
2017
[PT] 19th

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Team [26 riders]:
Yonathan Monsalve Gihan Pushpakumara
Jay McCarthy Naveen Ruchira
Adrien Petit Sujith Silva
Tony Gallopin Sameera Chatarunga
Anthony Turgis Madushanka Perera
Hugh Carthy Tushantha Rajapakshage
Jonathan Bellis Nihal Silva
Adam Yates Suranga Ranaweera
Salem Kemboi Sachin Dulanjana
Kevin Predatsch [Loan] Amith Udaya Kumara
Jerome Baugnies Darshana Prasad
Kashyapa Siriwardena Ashen Tharuka
Krishan Madushanka Sanju Dimantha Sembukutti
Loaned out [2 riders]:
Asela Sisira Nidush Nirantha Fernando


Ayubowan!
2018
[PCT] 8th

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Team [20 riders]:
Yonathan Monsalve Gihan Pushpakumara
Jay McCarthy Suranga Ranaweera
Sebastian Lander Darshana Prasad
Salem Kemboi Sameera Chatarunga
Anthony Turgis Madushanka Perera
Hugh Carthy Tushantha Rajapakshage
Adam Yates Nihal Silva
Josh Atkins Ashen Tharuka
Julius van den Berg Amith Udaya Kumara
Alberto Bettiol Sachin Dulanjana
Loaned out [3 riders]:
Samuel Ssabagwanya Kashyapa Siriwardena
Stefan De Bod


Farfetch Pro Cycling
2019
[PT] 19th

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Team [25 riders]:
Mattia Cattaneo Salem Kemboi
Alberto Bettiol Anthony Turgis
Marco Tizza Eugert Zhupa
Adam Yates Josh Atkins
Hugh Carthy Samuel Ssabagwanya
Sebastian Lander Darshana Prasad
Mathias Krigbaum [Loan] Kyeng Ho Min
Tosh Van der Sande Julius van den Berg
Milan Menten Stefan De Bod
Michael Gogl Zisis Soulious [Stagiare]
Jodok Salzmann Alexey Voloshin [Stagiare]
Yonathan Monsalve Hugo Nunes [Stagiare]
Jay McCarthy
Loaned out [3 riders]:
Siim Kiskonen Edoardo Affini
Steff Cras


Farfetch Pro Cycling
2020
[PCT] 1st

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Team [21 riders]:
Tosh Van der Sande Yoann Paillot
Milan Menten Anthony Turgis
Enzo Wouters Alberto Bettiol
Steff Cras Edoardo Affini
Viktor Verschaeve Xhuliano Kamberaj
Ruben Guerreiro Julius van den Berg
Frederico Figueiredo Jodok Salzmann
Gaspar Goncalves Stefan De Bod
Adam Yates Zisis Soulious
Hugh Carthy Inigo Elosegui
Salem Kemboi
Loaned out [1 rider]:
Siim Kiskonen


Farfetch Pro Cycling
2021
[PT] 12th

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Team [20 riders]:
Alberto Bettiol Zisis Soulious
Simone Velasco Georgios Boutopoulous
Edoardo Affini Salem Kemboi
Louis Meintjes Xhuliano Kamberaj
Stefan De Bod Rasmus Tiller
Yoann Paillot Magnus Cort Nielsen
Anthony Turgis Jodok Salzmann
Steff Cras Ruben Guerreiro
Enzo Wouters Cees Bol
Adam Yates Inigo Elosegui


De Stijl Cycling
2022
[PT] 16th

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Team [23 riders]:
Adam Yates Anthony Turgis
James Knox [Loan] Xhuliano Kamberaj
Louis Meintjes Rasmus Tiller
Stefan De Bod Magnus Cort Nielsen
Alberto Bettiol Jodok Salzmann
Edoardo Affini Ruben Guerreiro
Steff Cras Cees Bol
Enzo Wouters Inigo Elosegui
Zisis Soulious Hamza Mansouri
Georgios Boutopoulous Sandy Nur Hasan [Loan]
Salem Kemboi Mushin Misbah [Loan]
Alexander Cataford
 
jph27
2022 Stat Gains

Steff Cras
26 | 4.99 > 4.100 | Pot 5
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67767171767675586067616768
68787273787777586067616770


Inigo Elosegui
24 | 4.92 > 4.100 | Pot 6
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65777172778083606071656671


Edoardo Affini
26 | 4.82 > 4.100 | Pot 3
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Zisis Soulious
26 | 4.58 > 4.100 | Pot 4
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69747566767569517178637666


Enzo Wouters
26 | 4.48 > 4.100 | Pot 4
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75666859737583647779566061


Georgios Boutopoulos
26 | 3.41 > 4.39 | Pot 4
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74677065707267717076777367
76677165727468737277787367
77677165747569757377787367


Hamza Mansouri
23 | 2.00 > 3.81 | Pot 4
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72676970747173626873736570
72697072757275626873736572
73737376787579626874746576


Formatting borrowed from jandal, with thanks to knockout for the HQ coding tool!

Edited by jph27 on 25-07-2023 22:08
 
jph27
Pre-Renewals Roster

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Adam Yates718076717980765667767171714.10031
Louis Meintjes718078717776785761697174714.10031
Anthony Turgis736779657678706570778367684.10029
Salem Kemboi786264637477815080806168814.10028
Alexandor Cataford747270797575736760696771794.10030
Alberto Bettiol727177687875746671777568674.10030
Rasmus Tiller746570677675707874736970694.10027
Ruben Guerreiro717677627373776372726167624.10029
Cees Bol766470677577816879776867694.10028
Xhuliano Kamberaj756369677373786879786466704.10029
Magnus Cort Nielsen727874727675746054716564724.10030
Steff Cras687872737877775860676167704.10027
Inigo Elosegui657771727780836060716566714.10025
Zisis Soulious697475667675695171786376664.10027
Jodok Salzmann736371647776717767717069644.10028
Enzo Wouters756668597375836477795660614.10027
Stefan De Bod736970777578715460686769774.10027
Edoardo Affini736667777679726464707368784.10027
Georgios Boutopoulos766771657274687372777873674.3927
Hamza Mansouri726970727572756268737365723.4324


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Fabianski
Can't say I like Lidl, but I do like your team anyway Smile Special love for Kemboi since I did my first Qatar reports, but Yates is just such a great rider to follow as well. And it looks like you've got some successors for when your climbing leader duo will start to decline Smile
But first and foremost, I'm happy that you're still a valuable part of the game! Good luck for transfers and the upcoming season - and good to see that you have a different jersey than last year's default PCM one Wink
 
TheManxMissile
Oh the Ayubowan! days, one of the reasons it's become comparitively tricky to get small good small nations riders in (unless their Greek, which again you're making work).

Wonder if this signals a move for a few more central European riders or just rolling onwards with the anyone will do as long as they're good build. Either way, long time fan and friend of the team.
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cio93
TheManxMissile wrote:
Wonder if this signals a move for a few more central European riders or just rolling onwards with the anyone will do as long as they're good build.

The second one, please Frown This truly ain't the season for it.

TheManxMissile wrote:
Either way, long time fan and friend of the team.

Agreed regardless though!
 
Ezeefreak
Oh dear,
another german based team. Though I like that the german cycling will be pushed by that but I dont see enough riders for the damand atm. So I hope you will be able to build a good team (and leave enough leftovers on the market for me xD). Oh and If you have too much money and you're in the need for a mediocre german rider, hit me up xD.
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redordead
Wow another German team Shock

I see your talent factory is still up there with the very best in MG so I wouldn't be surprised if you moved up some places in the PT rankings Smile

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"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
 
whitejersey
Going to be interesting to see how deep you want to go into the German pool this season, a lot of competition in that space for sure! As I have said before, super happy that you're staying in the game and going to be interesting to see how you conduct yourself this transfer window, with no declining captains that need to be shipped!

As always you have some incredible talents maxing out, biggest question mark for me is going to be Elosegui, if he had a tad bit more fighter he'd be the perfect week 3 GT rider for stages but I still think he'll be a great utility piece!
 
jph27
@Fabianski: Thanks! With jerseymakers currently busy I thought I'd go for a RL jersey - as you say, it's definitely an improvement on the default PCM one Smile

@TMM: Apologies for that Pfft. Not expecting this to result in a change of nationality focus, if anything the change of approach is more likely going to be less of a focus on looking to the future, and perhaps more willingness to sign riders that are declining (or about to).

@cio and Ezeefreak: Don't worry, as stated above that won't be an issue. Officially this has been a British team for the past 4 seasons and has had a max of 2 British riders in each of those seasons - expect similar!

@redordead: I thought this last season and look what happened Pfft. The challenge now is trying to restock the roster with talents, which will make for a fun transfers...

@WJ: Thanks! It'll be interesting for sure, the roster construction remains very similar to that of the team which won the PCT title in 2020, which perhaps isn't the best approach for PT and may need to change. Elosegui is an interesting one - the question is really whether the high RES cancels out the low FL, and what the scoring potential is for a rider of that type who doesn't get into breaks very often.
 
Imladrik
Elosegui is an interesting one - the question is really whether the high RES cancels out the low FL, and what the scoring potential is for a rider of that type who doesn't get into breaks very often.


If you can't answer this question, I'm sure he'll be happy to come back home in Bilbao Pfft

As others have said, nice to see you with a nice jersey! I won't confuse your team with Binance anymore!


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knockout
LIDL as a main sponsor of a cycling team just looks wrong to me. I know this is inspired by the real life cycling team but it remains odd to me.


Looking forward to an availability list. Several potentially interesting riders for me here so we'll surely talk again a bit. Glad to see you continuing!
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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jph27
Renewals and Availability

20222023Change
Adam Yates€ 455,000€ 550,000€ 95,000
Louis Meintjes€ 400,000€ 405,000€ 5,000
Anthony Turgis€ 340,000€ 340,000-•••
Salem Kemboi€ 365,000€ 330,000€ -35,000
Rasmus Tiller€ 325,000€ 250,000€ -75,000
Cees Bol€ 140,000€ 145,000€ 5,000••
Alexandor Cataford€ 150,000€ 145,000€ -5,000
Xhuliano Kamberaj€ 175,000€ 145,000€ -30,000•••••
Ruben Guerreiro€ 135,000€ 140,000€ 5,000•••••
Magnus Cort Nielsen€ 155,000€ 140,000€ -15,000••
Alberto Bettiol€ 135,000€ 130,000€ -5,000••
Inigo Elosegui€ 60,000€ 130,000€ 70,000•••••
Steff Cras€ 70,000€ 125,000€ 55,000•••
Zisis Soulious€ 75,000€ 125,000€ 50,000•••••
Hamza Mansouri€ 145,000€ 115,000€ -30,000
Jodok Salzmann€ 105,000€ 105,000-••
Stefan De Bod€ 85,000€ 85,000-••
Edoardo Affini€ 50,000€ 70,000€ 20,000•••••
Georgios Boutopoulos€ 65,000€ 70,000€ 5,000
Enzo Wouters€ 50,000--
Total:€ 3,480,000€ 3,545,000€ -65,000


Likely to stay, unless sales help make other moves
•••Offers welcomed, available in the right circumstances
•••••Will be sold, unless something unexpected happens


After a particularly difficult renewals period, 19 riders re-signed with the team for the upcoming season. For the first time in the team's history a rider refused all our renewal offers - Enzo Wouters turning down a near doubling in wage in the final round of negotiations. Only 5 riders accepted their initial offers, with 5 more agreeing terms in the second round and the final 9 in the third, suggesting that there was little that could have been done to secure them on lower wages.

Once again, this means the team enters transfers over the salary cap. That fact, combined with a desire to restock the roster with talents and the ultimate aim of moving away from the PT relegation zone, means sales are likely. At least 5 riders will be sold, even if the exact names are not yet set in stone, and we expect that one or more of our higher earners could leave if the deal is right.
 
baseballlover312
Enzo getting greedy. Or maybe he just wanted out. Shock
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy
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jandal7
As always love the squad the talents et cetera blah blah blah Pfft A tough renewals for sure, would have thought there could have been more done with Mansouri - but it means if you let me have him then it's just even more cap space you're clearing Pfft
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SotD
How in earths name did you get Soulious to cost that much? Couldn't you atleast have put him on the FA list for me? Smile

You made a mistake next to Boutopoulos. You forgot 4 dots.
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Luis Leon Sanchez
A team full of riders who I have an interest in. We’ll definitely be in contact at some point during transfers. Will be interesting to see how your window shapes up and the team you take into the season.
 
redordead
I don't think you'll struggle selling this time around. Maybe we have a chat or two Smile

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kandesbunzler26
Seems like a busy transfer season's ahead of you. But I don't think your riders are my price category though Wink
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