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ICL21 - Race Discussion
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| dominox |
Posted on 16-12-2022 15:05
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Small delay due to being quite busy recently. Five more stages are up. With another five going in tomorrow! |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 16-12-2022 17:22
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Strong rides by Wilco, loving his performance so far!
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-12-2022 18:59
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At least we get that stage win, but the GC is just horrible. Thanks for the nice videos though, much appreciated!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 16-12-2022 21:06
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Good to see Herrada take a stage win, 2nd place seems to be realistic given quintana isnt that strong anymore however Herklotz is way above and sadly Herrada loses the cut here, almost 4 minutes on one stage ouch.. wtf is that stage 10, herklotz just riding away 60km from the finish lol and nobody gives a f about it?!
Ai screwing us royally on that stage 10 with so many riders upfront and herklotz just riding away wtf Follow Jesus follow. Really bad for Majka though and his podium aspirations.
Edited by Shonak on 16-12-2022 21:12
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| Ripley |
Posted on 17-12-2022 08:58
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Miserable performance by Majka. He staged a late comeback last year to reach the podium but looking at the time gaps I'd be happy if he can defend his 5th place. Herklotz is scary!
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 17-12-2022 13:00
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Crochet had a great stage 10 leading U25 by 10mins and keeping his 6th place in GC. Hope he can keep this up.
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| dominox |
Posted on 17-12-2022 19:39
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Tour 2021: Stages 12-16
https://pcmdaily....st_1427831 |
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 17-12-2022 20:31
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Stage 14-15 definitely a new low for the AI. Herklotz making it look so easy though.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 17-12-2022 23:11
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2nd place is locked in but being 5 minutes behind a MT81 rider is really hurts.. have fun Bardet next year lol
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 18-12-2022 03:07
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Nice stuff from the Air Algeria boys after some problems in week 1. Back-to-back victories on 12 and 13 were vital, Senechal showing his value.
Stage 14 was a mystery, looked like we were destroying he peloton had almost caught the break and then they stopped riding, everything came back together and Kittel didn't even get a top 10.
Good shot a wining the points jersey but will need good rides in Stages 19 and 21.
Thanks for the reports.
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 18-12-2022 05:31
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Guardini doing ok so far but was hoping for better. We didn't have any GC hopes but it's very disappointing that no one is even joining breaks let alone try to attack the KOM. Will be a very poor race for us.
Thanks for the reports so far.
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 18-12-2022 14:26
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Shonak wrote:
2nd place is locked in but being 5 minutes behind a MT81 rider is really hurts.. have fun Bardet next year lol
You read my mind, Herklotz looking very dangerous.
Crochet 15mins ahead in the U25 but slipped from 6th to 8th in GC, a top 10 will be a great result.
Shout out to Peter Kennaugh maintaining a top 20 GC is better than expected.
Thanks for the great coverage dominox.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 18-12-2022 18:18
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Great racing, though the KOM dominance by the GC riders is a bit of a shame. Our climbers ride pretty anonymously but really do well!
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| dominox |
Posted on 21-12-2022 18:47
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Finally found some time to upload final Tour stages. Being sick isn't fun, especially when you barely get out of bed. Apologies yet again.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 21-12-2022 18:56
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Feel better!
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 21-12-2022 19:53
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Thanks for the great coverage, worth the wait and a nice early Christmas present. Hope you feel better soon.
Exciting to see Kennaugh & Olesen in the break and Kennaugh finishing a great 16th GC. Crochet smashed the U25 by over 20 mins, finishing with a strong 4th in the final ITT and climbed to 7th in GC.
Congrats to cio, Herklotz looking like he could dominate for years to come, Bardet will be doing his best to stop him 
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| Shonak |
Posted on 21-12-2022 21:54
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what a beating for herrada and the rest of the gc guys but with a stage win, some good gc results and the team classification it should be a good goal race nonetheless. congratulations to cio and his nephew, too bad he seems to be away from daily. after this show of force will be interesting how herklotz will develop further, but we will certainly have to put in more difficult mountain stages again.
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 21-12-2022 23:32
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Well kind of a repeat of the Giro and that ain't bad, 4 stage wins and an easy victory in the points jersey despite the GC guys riding every stage like it was their last. Lost on the Champs but I think Kittel can still claim to be king of the ICL sprinters. A top 30 on GC to finish it off. But frustrating once again that there were 3 other stages where we let the break win by less then 30 seconds and I think Kittel won the field sprint in 2 of them.
Generally happy with my decision to double Kittel up on the Grand Tours. Both goal races and both should have decent scores.
Unlike the Giro more positives from the rest of the team, particularly Ulissi, 9th on the GC and an outstanding ride to deliver Marcel to victory on Stage 18.
Bosch scoring big with Herklotz dominance (darn PCM15 does love the hill stat), so not sure how this leaves us in the relegation competition. Congrats to Cio and commiserations to those with other GC riders who have to deal with it.
Thanks to Dominox for the great videos, seeing Ulissi reappear at the front with Kittel in tow on S18 might have been my all-time ICL highlight.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 22-12-2022 00:18
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Thanks dominox for the results and coverage, I really enjoyed watching the videos!
Very unfortunate to see Spagnoli lose by such a tight margin on the champs. Also the TT in stage 20 was a (expected) disaster by Konrad. Still 8th and 12th in GC, a stage win and some more decent stage results make a great TdF for Italo!
Congrats cio. Herklotz is very scary. I did not expect him to be this dominating. |
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 22-12-2022 00:29
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Fenn doing ok the whole tour, a bit unlucky to miss the yellow in first stages for just a second, and no stage wins, a 2nd place for few mms was another unlucky event.
3rd in point classification is a good result, but not sure will bring too many points in ranking.
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