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ICL21 - General | Scouting
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 20-05-2022 08:24
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Day 6 Signings
Spoiler | Last Name | First Name | Team | Wage | | Rowe | Luke | La Vie Claire | 455 | | Bol | Jetse | Baku | 230 | | Butler | Christopher | Guinness | 140 | | Downey | Sean | Guinness | 100 | | Cordeel | Sander | Baku | 100 | | Poppe | Olivier | Air Algérie | 100 | | Potocki | Pavel | Polestar | 140 | | Biró | Sándor | Tierra | 210 | | Gasanov | Ruslan | EF x Palace | 315 | | Wang | Chonglin | Baku | 100 | | Ashley-Seal | Cameron | Filliers | 100 |
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Nice to be able to welcome Jetse back, we would've likely retained him last year if not for budget restraints. Another team (Italo?) swooped but this time he was still available. Dev team is now complete, just one signing left 
EDIT: As it stands, there are only two teams who don't have enough eligible riders for their dev team. Santos need 2 more, DFK need 4. Both still have enough money left that this shouldn't be an issue.
Edited by OZrocker on 20-05-2022 08:57
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| jph27 |
Posted on 20-05-2022 09:17
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Expected more of a battle for Rowe, but glad to now have my leaders sorted! Likely to have only one more rider above 100 wage, but that was the plan for this season after all - fill up on cheap domestiques at the bottom of the roster who can be replaced by dev team graduates next season, ready for hopefully a second season promotion push! |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-05-2022 09:37
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@OZrocker: Yes he was indeed on my team and did quite well. Considered renewing him and even looked at him in the FA again but decided against him in the end because his nationality is not really fitting my focus. Glad he got a contract again back at your team!
Thanks btw for the signed riders lists! Indeed two more need to fill their dev team and these teams haven't reached their rider minimum yet:
Grupo Argos - Quala
Alitalia
Baku Synergy +
Santos - Euskadi
VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
Deutsche Bahn
Credit Suisse
Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor
Team BP
Air Algérie - Navibulgar
Brugse Zot - Trek
Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm
La Vie Claire
DFK Panevėžys
The current round is the penultimate. After the last one any rider that received a bid will immediately sign and teams that still require a rider can then sign from the remaining free agents FCFS.
I feel like there's still quite a fight over the 100 min wage riders incoming. |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 20-05-2022 10:10
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Yep, sorry, I'll be needing all those rounds this year, was outbid too often early on and so things only started to fall into place late in the race.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-05-2022 10:12
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Ripley wrote:
Yep, sorry, I'll be needing all those rounds this year, was outbid too often early on and so things only started to fall into place late in the race.
No need to be sorry just wanted to make sure everyone is aware  |
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 20-05-2022 12:07
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Bikex wrote:
@OZrocker: Yes he was indeed on my team and did quite well. Considered renewing him and even looked at him in the FA again but decided against him in the end because his nationality is not really fitting my focus. Glad he got a contract again back at your team!
Thanks btw for the signed riders lists! Indeed two more need to fill their dev team and these teams haven't reached their rider minimum yet:
Grupo Argos - Quala
Alitalia
Baku Synergy +
Santos - Euskadi
VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff
Deutsche Bahn
Credit Suisse
Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor
Team BP
Air Algérie - Navibulgar
Brugse Zot - Trek
Latvijas Balzams - Olainfarm
La Vie Claire
DFK Panevėžys
The current round is the penultimate. After the last one any rider that received a bid will immediately sign and teams that still require a rider can then sign from the remaining free agents FCFS.
I feel like there's still quite a fight over the 100 min wage riders incoming.
Well, I've ruined any chance to stay in the top tier 
With almost dried up budget and still can't fill my roster.
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| valverde321 |
Posted on 20-05-2022 12:18
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ivaneurope wrote:
valverde321 wrote:
Probably done my transfers now. Really happy with how it went considering I had no plans prior and only devoted very limited time to it. This transfer system really evens the playing field between constantly active managers and those who are only free in small windows when the majority of others are offline/asleep.
Quite happy to get Gasanov, Zillioli and Palini, who all improve the squad, and round out a few of our weaker areas. Talents were harder to come by compared to last season imo, so Im glad I took that focus then. With no one imminently declining next season too, I think its a solid base to build from now.
So it was you who outbid me for him by 5 and forced me to change my transfer plans (since I need one more rider to fill my roster)? This makes me very, very sad 
Solid pickup in the final stages of the transfer window though.
Sorry about that. I actually looked for unbidded riders 2 “days” ago and went for him. Your max must’ve been 5 higher than mine initially and then as he was the last rider I needed I went for a higher max bid on the 2nd day to try and get him.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 20-05-2022 13:14
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I'm aware every GC leader I was following is gone
let's build a decent team around Engeldinger..
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-05-2022 22:27
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Next update: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread...st_1414258
Good job Abhishek getting back into the limits of your budget.
One more round, any rider with a bid will sign immediately at the end of this round. |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 21-05-2022 04:32
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Can't believe I pulled that off
Big thanks to all the managers who put up with my constant bugging!
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 21-05-2022 07:51
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Congrats Abhishek, I was following closely and hoping you'd make it back! I would've liked to help you out too but after Quintana and Murray came in there wasn't much room left to fit Degenkolb 
Will post today's signings later, but it's hardly necessary at this point.
EDIT: Here they are
Day 7 signings
Spoiler | Last Name | First Name | Team | Wage | | Amador | Andrey | Baku | 100 | | McEvoy | Jonathon | Latvijas | 420 | | Edmondson | Joshua | CCC | 425 |
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Nice to see Guan Chanming might be getting a contract. He's been a reliable member of the TVM/Giant/Baku team for a number of years and is a useful guy to have when your leaders tend to disappoint
Edited by OZrocker on 21-05-2022 16:17
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Posted on 22-11-2024 05:41
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| Ripley |
Posted on 22-05-2022 10:00
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I'm done! Decided for the last three signings to pick a couple of riders already past their prime, Kreuziger and Stannard, and will call them road captains, plus a cheap TT specialist, Rasim Reis.
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 22-05-2022 10:05
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Day 8 Signings
Spoiler | Last Name | First Name | Team | Wage | | Thurau | Björn | Deutsche | 100 | | Stannard | Ian | Team BP | 180 | | Kreuziger | Roman | Team BP | 210 | | Nuber | Simon | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Matthews | Michael | CCC | 430 | | Pereira | Vasco | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Novikov | Nikita | CCC | 410 | | Kouwenhoven | Sjoerd | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Bonnin | Thomas | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Bizkarra | Mikel | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Vecera | Jakub | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Gaspar | João Marcelo | Grupo Argos | 110 | | Chaves | Esteban | DFK | 320 | | Fernández | Rubén | Brugse | 330 | | Schaffner | Moritz | Millenium | 180 | | Grivell-Mellor | Luke | La Vie Claire | 140 | | Carretero | Ramon | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Cerny | Josef | Grupo Argos | 100 | | Merolese | Antonia | Alitalia | 100 | | Piccoli | James | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Malovec | Lubos | Air Algérie | 130 | | Schmidt | Petter | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Viktorín | Václav | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Reis | Rasim | Team BP | 230 | | Arizabal | Víctor | CCC | 405 | | Babey | Johan | Deutsche | 100 | | Tsui | Pengda | ICBC | 100 | | Borisov | Vasif | Air Algérie | 100 | | Cognart | Robbie | DFK | 100 | | Guan | Chanming | ICBC | 180 | | Guillot | Marcel | Deutsche | 100 | | Shkvyrin | Rezo | ICBC | 140 | | Bell | Steve | DFK | 100 | | Lemsalu | Raivo | DFK | 100 | | Ling | Gerard | La Vie Claire | 100 | | Stojanović | Jovan | Grupo Argos | 100 | | Udovic | Bekim | La Vie Claire | 100 |
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Since we have 5 budget left, I'm interested in signing 1/20th of Seong Yoo. If EF and Tierra del Fuego are willing to chip in, we can just afford it between us 
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 22-05-2022 12:33
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Damn somebody signed Malovec need to find a new idea for the last rider then...
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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 22-05-2022 20:17
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Croatia14 wrote:
Damn somebody signed Malovec need to find a new idea for the last rider then...
That was me, returning to us for a second season. He has great combination of stats for 130. Had forgotten about him and was scrolling through the FA list and there he was begging to rejoin our merry band of brothers. That said happy to sell him to you if Bikex will let me.
Man Game: McCormick Pro Cycling |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 22-05-2022 21:33
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Ulrich Ulriksen wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
Damn somebody signed Malovec need to find a new idea for the last rider then...
That was me, returning to us for a second season. He has great combination of stats for 130. Had forgotten about him and was scrolling through the FA list and there he was begging to rejoin our merry band of brothers. That said happy to sell him to you if Bikex will let me.
Yes sure transfers are still open |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 23-05-2022 09:50
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U23 Selection
Download: https://www.mediafire.com/file/jvh65i....xlsx/file
Please open the last db and sort the riders by their team, copy your entire team and paste it in cell A1 (the red one). Then open the table U23 selection. There you'll see all your riders listed, next to them there is a field either colored red, green, yellow or orange. If it's red the rider isn't eligible for your U23 team, if it's green, yellow or orange the rider is. The field will be orange if the rider has an average of over 73 and yellow if over 72. You are allowed to have two riders above AVG 72, one with max AVG 73 and one with max AVG 73.5. Select the riders by filling something in cell F. If all boxes in column L turn green your selection is okay.
Your U23 team needs 8-10 riders.
When done send me columns A-G of the U23 Selection table. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 23-05-2022 10:09
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Race Selection Files:
Please download the Race selection file for the division your team is in and follow the following steps. Managers with also a development team will also have to download one for the U23 team. The calendar file is included in the selection files.
How does the file work?
#1 Put your team ID in L1. You find your team ID in table teams.
#2 Select the races you want to take part in by putting an "X" in column F next to the race.
#3 It is possible to finish with up to 5 more or less race days used than the required amount.
#4 Copy columns H, where it also says PM and send them to me in a PM.
WT Race Planner: https://www.mediafire.com/file/zkyd05....xlsx/file
WT teams have 225 race days of which they already spend 180 on WT races. The rest will be in CT. The teams have the option to ride up to 15 CT.2 racedays. Restrictions for riders riding in CT races can be read here: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1188170 at point #3.
CT Race Planner: https://www.mediafire.com/file/hinq19....xlsx/file
CT teams have 175 race days which will majorly be used on CT.1 and CT.2 races. They are also allowed to apply for wildcards for WT races. But the WT races they apply for aren't allowed to have more than 50 racedays combined.
U23 Race Planner: https://www.mediafire.com/file/beprvp....xlsx/file
U23 teams have 90 race days. This season we have a record of 30 U23 teams, this means it is not possible for all U23 teams to ride all U23 races. Hence, you can ride at maximum 40 U23 race days, minimum 30. U23 teams that finished as top 16 U23 team in the prestige ranking last year get priority. Afterwards regional focus and rider specialization are deciding. Besides U23 races, U23 teams can ride CT.1 and CT.2 races. Here at least 6 race days have to be spent in CT.1 races, maximum 25. U23 teams are not allowed to participate in clashing races. CT.2 races are already put on the calendar the way they don't clash with U23 races, but when assigning CT.1 races, you have to take care.
To those who missed it the race profiles can be found here: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=49157
The World Cup information can be found here:
Spoiler Races
| Palm Classic | Sprint | | Clasica di Tirreno - Adriatico | Sprint | | Milano - Sanremo | Sprint | | Vattenfall Cyclassics | Sprint | | Paris - Tours | Sprint | | | | Omloop Het Nieuwsblad | Cobbles | | Gent-Wevelgem | Cobbles | | Ronde van Vlaanderen | Cobbles | | Paris - Roubaix | Cobbles | | Richmond Criterium | Cobbles | | | | Strade Bianche | Hills | | Roma Maxima | Hills | | Amstel Gold Race | Hills | | Liège - Bastogne - Liège | Hills | | Clasica Ciclista San Sebastian | Hills | | Bucaramanga Classic | Hills | | Il Lombardia | Hills | | | | Trofeo Campania | TimeTrial | | GP Luxembourg | TimeTrial | | Chrono des Nations | TimeTrial |
Individual Rankings
There will be minor rankings for every terrain type. All combined will be the World Cup.
The top 20 will get these number of points:
| 1 | 100 | | 2 | 75 | | 3 | 60 | | 4 | 50 | | 5 | 40 | | 6 | 32 | | 7 | 24 | | 8 | 18 | | 9 | 14 | | 10 | 12 | | 11 | 10 | | 12 | 9 | | 13 | 8 | | 14 | 7 | | 15 | 6 | | 16 | 5 | | 17 | 4 | | 18 | 3 | | 19 | 2 | | 20 | 1 |
Team World Cup
For the team rankings the top 10 teams will get points. For that the finishing positions of their top 3 riders counts, the lower the better, if two teams have the same number, the best finishing rider counts for the tie break. The best team will get 10 points until the 10th will get 1.
Budget Bonus
| Indiv | Total | Hi,Sp,Cb | Tt | | Team | Total | Hi,Sp,Cb | Tt | | 1 | 250 | 50 | 30 | | 1 | 250 | 50 | 30 | | 2 | 200 | 35 | 20 | | 2 | 190 | 30 | 20 | | 3 | 170 | 25 | 15 | | 3 | 160 | 20 | 10 | | 4 | 150 | 20 | 10 | | 4 | 150 | 10 | 5 | | 5 | 130 | 15 | 5 | | 5 | 120 | 5 | | | 6 | 120 | 10 | 5 | | 6 | 100 | | | | 7 | 110 | 5 | | | 7 | 80 | | | | 8 | 100 | 5 | | | 8 | 70 | | | | 9 | 90 | | | | 9 | 60 | | | | 10 | 80 | | | | 10 | 50 | | | | 11 | 70 | | | | 11 | 40 | | | | 12 | 65 | | | | 12 | 30 | | | | 13 | 60 | | | | 13 | 20 | | | | 14 | 55 | | | | 14 | 10 | | | | 15 | 50 | | | | 15 | 5 | | | | 16 | 45 | | | | | | | | | 17 | 40 | | | | | | | | | 18 | 35 | | | | | | | | | 19 | 30 | | | | | | | | | 20 | 25 | | | | | | | | | 21 | 20 | | | | | | | | | 22 | 15 | | | | | | | | | 23 | 10 | | | | | | | | | 24 | 5 | | | | | | | | | 25 | 5 | | | | | | | |
Important notice for everyone: Usually I want you to send me PMs in table format. This time please don't do that. Just copy the PM column and paste it without any formation into the Message Box. If you put it in table brackets the 0s will be removed meaning I won't get your race selections correctly. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 23-05-2022 10:22
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Research
Download: https://www.mediafire.com/file/81kkxj....xlsx/file
#1 Enter your team ID in C2 your remaining budget will show up in the Total cell
#2 Put in F2 the money you want to keep for scouting, for both scouting and research you'll get a 100 bonus for each. The 100 bonus for research is already included in the Total calculation.
#3 Put the money you want to use for training into the corresponding cell, the Other cell will calculate itself.
Training
Additionally to the points a rider will naturaly gain you can add some through research. You can research on nine different training options. The result of research will be "packages" of stat gains. Researching for a specific rider type can bring you gains in all the stats that aren't 0 in the specific package type. One package will be used for only one rider. You can research a maximum of four packages of every type.
The numbers in cells C-O are the likeliness that you will get points for that specific stat.
You can use this tool to check how much a stat pack can get you: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread...st_1381708
The included database is not up to date, by now you'll find the basestat tabs in the latest db update.
To research on a rider type simply put the money you want to use next to it (columns P-S). You can spend money on as many rider types you like to. If you want to have several packages for one type of rider, so that you can spend it on several riders, also put numbers in the lines below "2,3,4".
The more you spend for one package the higher is the chance to get a lot of points. There is no minimum to be spent, but below 20 it can happen that there are no points at all awarded.
One gained point doesn't equal one stat point. The higher the stat, the more points have to be paid for the stat.
Rules for assigning statpacks:
There are limits in all the main stats, which currently may not be passed by a rider. The limits are 83(MO) and 82(HI, TT, CB, SP). For riders with an AVG 78,0 or more, a statpack that costed more than 100 can only be spent, if it fits the rider stats distribution. Meaning a climber package on a climber and so on and on an AVG 78+ climber can e.g. only a sprinter package which was max 100 paid for. The same counts for riders 76,0 or better with stat packs that costed more than 250. The specialization can be interpreted loosely so a classics rider might be allowed to get stat packs for hills, cobbles and sprint. It's just to prevent too extreme stat combinations. The maximum that can be spent on training for one rider per season is 1500.
However, I still reserve myself the right to intervene if a rider will become to strong to my liking.
A max of 3 packages can be used on one rider.
Other
In other you have the option to use the research money in 6 different fields:
Potential
Will increase the potential of a rider according to the potential package you bought.
Mediator
Can be used to lower wages during renewals. Makes it a good way to pass money into the next season.
Fitness Trainer
Makes it possible to increase a riders race days. These can not be combined, so only one Fitness Trainer per rider.
Potion of Youth
Increases the Age of Decline of a rider. If you want to increase the AoD by several years, you have to buy all the years in between.
Recalc
Recalc can be useful if a rider obviously doesn't progress anymore and it might seem like a low reached avg for his potential. Using this the hidden maximum for the rider will be randomly recalculated. This could end up as a waste of money.
To buy one of these researches for one rider put a 1 into cell next to it. You can buy each package an unlimited amount of times, for that just put a higher number than 1 there.
AoD 31+
For sub-top riders you can from this year on buy AoD packages cheaper. This is only possible if the rider is already 31 or older (not developing anymore). If you want such a AoD package go to the "AoD 31+" table. Enter the AVG of the rider as well as the year you want to buy for him (1-4 with 1 being the first added year to the Age of Decline).
Once you are done go to "PM" and copy the grey area in a table and send it to me.
If you want to buy an AoD package from the AoD 31+ table, also send me the table from that tab in the PM.
Edited by Bikex on 31-05-2022 15:57
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| cio93 |
Posted on 23-05-2022 19:31
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Do I correctly spot a stat limit increase?
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