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| redordead |
Posted on 30-10-2021 08:30
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Welcome to the 9th edition of the Tour of Tasmania stage race. Before among the last races on the MG calendar it has now been moved as the season opener for PT teams. What is the same is the parcour. A flat stage for the sprinters or perhaps brave breakaway riders. Followed by a hill stage and then the final decisive time-trial. It's a finely balanced race that has in the past produced winners from puncheur, time-trial specialists and stage racers.
With that said let's look at some of the favourites:
| MO | HI | TT | RS | AC | PR |  Phinney | 85 | 77 | 83 | 74 | 75 | 83 |  Taaramäe | 83 | 76 | 79 | 77 | 73 | 77 |  Wirtgen | 78 | 75 | 80 | 75 | 72 | 80 |  Lecuisinier | 85 | 75 | 77 | 80 | 74 | 77 |  Tenorio | 84 | 76 | 80 | 76 | 67 | 79 |  Gidich | 76 | 80 | 73 | 77 | 75 | 73 |  Dennis | 74 | 75 | 78 | 75 | 68 | 81 |  Ganna | 69 | 72 | 78 | 79 | 73 | 80 |  Würtz | 67 | 71 | 82 | 78 | 70 | 79 |  Sepulveda | 75 | 77 | 75 | 73 | 73 | 76 |  Hagen | 68 | 83 | 70 | 71 | 76 | 70 |  Cattaneo | 82 | 70 | 79 | 80 | 70 | 79 |  Pluchkin | 83 | 73 | 77 | 75 | 71 | 77 | | Oliveira | 74 | 73 | 78 | 75 | 71 | 78 |
Heading the list of favourites is last year's winner Taylor Phinney. The American is the best time-trialer in the world and has all the climbing ability and punch to make use of the hilly stage also. 2019 race winner Taaramäe making his debut for Evonik - ELKO. He's similar to Phinney, but slightly worse in every aspect. Next we have Wirtgen who is great against the clock and has a solid punch on him. Another world class stage racer is Lecuisinier who is the best climber here, but still very good on a TT bike. Talking of stage races we have plenty here, next is Tenorio who is an outstanding TTer, but does lack some acceleration.
Gidich is a good TTer for a puncheur and will be targeting the hilly stage for sure. Now we enter time-trial territory. Dennis can handle bumpy terrain better than most as a TTer. Ganna and Würtz are both specialists against the clock, but they're not awful going uphill. Can they limit their losses on stage 2? Sepulveda is a true hybrid for this race, while Hagen has won this race before as a top puncheur, here as a wildcard this time. Both Cattaneo and Pluchkin will look to hold on the punchy sections and recover on the final stage. Oliveira gives Generali a 2nd GC option.
| FL | ST | RS | SP | AC | | Coquard | 73 | 71 | 74 | 84 | 83 | | Degenkolb | 76 | 73 | 71 | 84 | 81 | | Eislers | 79 | 77 | 78 | 82 | 78 |  Kemboi | 78 | 74 | 77 | 80 | 80 |  Groenewegen | 73 | 74 | 71 | 82 | 81 |  Rowe | 78 | 76 | 70 | 79 | 80 |  Samolenkov | 74 | 75 | 71 | 81 | 79 |  Enger | 73 | 71 | 73 | 81 | 78 | | Holloway | 76 | 74 | 74 | 78 | 79 | | Kalaba | 74 | 70 | 72 | 79 | 79 |  Bertilsson | 73 | 72 | 71 | 79 | 77 |
Looking at the sprinters we have some top quality here. Coquard is the fastest man on paper in pretty much every race he enters. Although Degenkolb has to feel he is more than a match for him. Eislers has now fully "matured" and gets an early chance to face two of the best in PT. Kemboi and Rowe are strong sprinters and have to hope that the length of the stage somehow works in their favour. Groenewegen on the other hand is the other rider that has hopes of challenging the favourites top speed. The other guys on the list are all capable, but they'll need to be on a good day and do a great job wheel surfing.
| FL | MO | HI | RS | AC | | Hagen | 75 | 68 | 83 | 71 | 76 | | Yates | 74 | 70 | 81 | 70 | 80 | | Gidich | 72 | 76 | 80 | 77 | 75 | | Turgis | 73 | 67 | 79 | 78 | 77 |  Buchmann | 71 | 76 | 81 | 74 | 73 | | Vakoc | 71 | 71 | 81 | 71 | 74 | | Prevar | 72 | 71 | 80 | 70 | 73 | | Ulissi | 75 | 65 | 79 | 70 | 74 | | Phinney | 73 | 85 | 77 | 74 | 75 | | Waeytens | 70 | 71 | 80 | 70 | 73 |
Hagen is a GC contender and also the big favourite for the hilly stage. Yates is his big competitor here with his great explosiveness. Gidich is another rider looking at the GC and will need to make this stage count. The other riders here are mostly targeting this stage, knowing they will lose a lot of time in the time-trial. But one of the final names here is Phinney, He was 3rd on this stage last year and he will hope he can do something similar this year.
| TT | RS | PR | | Phinney | 83 | 74 | 83 | | Vlatos | 81 | 71 | 81 | | Würtz | 82 | 78 | 79 | | Wirtgen | 80 | 75 | 80 | | Paillot | 80 | 74 | 80 | | Sütterlin | 80 | 77 | 80 | | Yatsevich | 80 | 81 | 80 | | Leung | 78 | 77 | 82 | | Tenorio | 80 | 76 | 79 | | Dennis | 78 | 75 | 81 |
There is a whole glut of great time-trialists here, but we will focus on just a few. Phinney again has to take center stage here as the top favourite. Würtz is his big rival lately, but given the length of the TT it might be Vlatos who provides the sternest challenge. Wirtgen, Paillot, Sütterlin and Yatsevich are all evenly matched. It's unlikely they will fight for the stage win, but a podium could be possible.
Full startlist:
Spoiler | Groenewegen | Dylan | Aegon - Peroni | | Barbin | Enrico | Aegon - Peroni | | Sergent | Jesse | Aegon - Peroni | | Hepburn | Michael | Aegon - Peroni | | Denz | Nico | Aegon - Peroni | | de Kleijn | Arvid | Aegon - Peroni | | Schädlich | Lucas | Aegon - Peroni | | Erdenebat | Bilguunjargal | Aegon - Peroni | | Enger | Sondre Holst | Amaysim Cervélo | | Storer | Michael | Amaysim Cervélo | | Canty | Brendan | Amaysim Cervélo | | Bayly | Cameron | Amaysim Cervélo | | Ghyselinck | Jan | Amaysim Cervélo | | Wohler | Alex | Amaysim Cervélo | | Culey | Marcus | Amaysim Cervélo | | Christensen | Ryan | Amaysim Cervélo | | Wirtgen | Tom | EA Vesuvio | | Ulissi | Diego | EA Vesuvio | | Goos | Marc | EA Vesuvio | | Holloway | Dan | EA Vesuvio | | Gastauer | Ben | EA Vesuvio | | Tanfield | Harry | EA Vesuvio | | Bax | Sjoerd | EA Vesuvio | | O'Shea | Glenn | EA Vesuvio | | Taaramäe | Rein | Evonik - ELKO | | Eislers | Ingus | Evonik - ELKO | | Becis | Armands | Evonik - ELKO | | Sergis | Kaspars | Evonik - ELKO | | Tvetcov | Serghei | Evonik - ELKO | | Chavanne | Gabriel | Evonik - ELKO | | Stoltz | Yannick | Evonik - ELKO | | Navardauskas | Ramunas | Evonik - ELKO | | Meintjes | Louis | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Turgis | Anthony | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Kemboi | Salem | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Paillot | Yoann | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Guerreiro | Ruben | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Tiller | Rasmus | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Cort Nielsen | Magnus | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | De Bod | Stefan | Farfetch Pro Cycling | | Lecuisinier | Pierre-Henri | Festina - OAKA | | Coquard | Bryan | Festina - OAKA | | Vlatos | Panagiotis | Festina - OAKA | | Ioannidis | Nikolaos | Festina - OAKA | | Farantakis | Stylianos | Festina - OAKA | | Kastrantas | Charalampas | Festina - OAKA | | Miltiadis | Andreas | Festina - OAKA | | Kiriakidis | Ioannidis | Festina - OAKA | | Powless | Neilson | Gazelle | | Geoghegan Hart | Tao | Gazelle | | Malecki | Kamil | Gazelle | | Vervaeke | Louis | Gazelle | | Peters | Nans | Gazelle | | Konrad | Patrick | Gazelle | | Kruijswijk | Steven | Gazelle | | Kangert | Tanel | Gazelle | | Dennis | Rohan | Generali | | Oliveira | Nelson | Generali | | Brown | Nathan | Generali | | Kung | Stefan | Generali | | Van Baarle | Dylan | Generali | | Ludvigsson | Tobias | Generali | | Dyball | Benjamin | Generali | | Malori | Adrian | Generali | | Würtz | Mads | Grieg-Maersk | | Serrano | Gonzalo | Grieg-Maersk | | Lastra | Jonathan | Grieg-Maersk | | Larsen | Niklas | Grieg-Maersk | | Brkic | Benjamin | Grieg-Maersk | | Omarsson | Ingvar | Grieg-Maersk | | Korsaeth | Truls Engen | Grieg-Maersk | | Eekhoff | Nils | Grieg-Maersk | | Rodriguez | Oscar | Huski Chocolate | | Brambilla | Gianluca | Huski Chocolate | | Lammertink | Maurits | Huski Chocolate | | Goldstein | Omer | Huski Chocolate | | Hoehn | Alex | Huski Chocolate | | Hibatullah | Jamal | Huski Chocolate | | Champoussin | Clement | Huski Chocolate | | Erdenesuren | Munkhtulga | Huski Chocolate | | Degenkolb | John | ISA - Hexacta | | Vakoc | Petr | ISA - Hexacta | | Sepulveda | Eduardo | ISA - Hexacta | | Sendeku | Getachew | ISA - Hexacta | | Restrepo | Jhonatan | ISA - Hexacta | | Dlamini | Nicholas | ISA - Hexacta | | Chokri | El Mehdi | ISA - Hexacta | | Ferreyra | Diego Agustin | ISA - Hexacta | | Phinney | Taylor | Isostar - Specialized | | Per | David | Isostar - Specialized | | Villella | Davide | Isostar - Specialized | | Hagen | Carl Fredrik | Isostar - Specialized | | Bardet | Romain | Isostar - Specialized | | Bester | Shaun Nick | Isostar - Specialized | | Rikunov | Petr | Isostar - Specialized | | Krul | Stef | Isostar - Specialized | | Gidich | Yevgeniy | King Power | | Quita | Ronnilan | King Power | | Mano | Yuttana | King Power | | Sirironnachai | Sarawut | King Power | | Leung | Chun Wing | King Power | | Beniusis | Justas | King Power | | Herregodts | Rune | King Power | | Mostov | Zeke | King Power | | Buchmann | Emanuel | Mapei | | Lemus Davila | Luis Enrique | Mapei | | Goncalves | Gaspar | Mapei | | Rohendi | Teten | Mapei | | Neuman | Dominik | Mapei | | Groselj | Ziga | Mapei | | Palyi | Csaba | Mapei | | Predatsch | Kevin | Mapei | | Hagen | Edvald Boasson | Minions | | Uran | Rigoberto | Minions | | Kalaba | Dusan | Minions | | Poljanski | Pawel | Minions | | Duchesne | Antoine | Minions | | Marquez | Florentino | Minions | | Ligthart | Pim | Minions | | Bjerg | Mikkel | Minions | | Tenorio | Justo | MOL | | Theuns | Edward | MOL | | Waeytens | Zico | MOL | | Brozyna | Piotr | MOL | | Domagalski | Karol Andrzej | MOL | | Dina | Marton | MOL | | Matte | Charles | MOL | | Hussein | Mujtaba | MOL | | Prado | Ignacio Jesus | Moser - Sygic | | Bertilsson | Christian | Moser - Sygic | | Kukrle | Michal | Moser - Sygic | | Turek | Daniel | Moser - Sygic | | Atkins | Josh | Moser - Sygic | | Hnik | Karel | Moser - Sygic | | Osorio | Juan | Moser - Sygic | | Danacik | Jakub | Moser - Sygic | | Pluchkin | Aleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Padun | Mark | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Prevar | Oleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Laas | Martin | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Andriafenomananiaina | Zouzou | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Golovash | Oleksandr | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Aniolkowski | Stanislaw | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Pronskiy | Vadim | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | Ganna | Filippo | Team Puma - SAP | | Stüssi | Colin | Team Puma - SAP | | Sütterlin | Jasha | Team Puma - SAP | | Kämna | Lennard | Team Puma - SAP | | Conci | Nicola | Team Puma - SAP | | Cavagna | Remi | Team Puma - SAP | | Stork | Florian | Team Puma - SAP | | Schinnagel | Johannes | Team Puma - SAP | | Samolenkov | Artem | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Vlasov | Alexander | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Yatsevich | Kiril | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Zakarin | Aydar | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Kanerva | Joni | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Vorobev | Anton | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Dal Col | Andrea | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Goldstein | Roy | Team Tinkoff - La Datcha | | Rowe | Luke | Xero Racing | | Bazhkou | Stanislau | Xero Racing | | Habtemichael | Daniel | Xero Racing | | Van Niekerk | Morne | Xero Racing | | Stannard | Robert | Xero Racing | | Fouche | James | Xero Racing | | Kipkemboi | Salim | Xero Racing | | Schomber | Nils | Xero Racing | | Yates | Simon | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Cattaneo | Mattia | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Narvaez | Jhonatan | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Wackermann | Luca | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Russo | Clement | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Jones | Carter | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Rhim | Brendan | Zwift Pro Cycling | | Kurianov | Stepan | Zwift Pro Cycling |
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Posted on 30-10-2021 08:42
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Except for Koretzky (whom I though might interfere with Lecuisinier) we bring everything we got to hope for a good start. Had this race been in the middle of the season I don’t think we would have made this strong a lineup, but it’s always Nice to have a good get-go.
Hopefully Lecuisinier Can stay with the better puncheurs and then have a good day in the TT saddle to fight for a top 5. Might be a bit bold sending him here, but with some luck it could give a good outing for little RD’s spent.
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| roturn |
Posted on 30-10-2021 09:20
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All my timetrialists closely missing out on the favourite list I guess. Hope one can have a good daily form and surprise a bit.
Other than that basically Groenewegen to show himself in the sprint. No real GC ambition. |
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 30-10-2021 09:30
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The beginning of our PT adventure. Let's hope we get sighted 
That sounded really negative, I can't wait for this  Just not getting my hopes up for this particular one but will enjoy just seeing MG back! Thanks red for the preview
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Posted on 30-10-2021 09:57
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This is a welcome change for Evonik. In basically every PT season, Tasmania was the late season race where we didn't have too high expectations but ended up being even worse than that and/or burying the ambitions to finish higher in the final ranking.
For the first time ever, we have a legit contender with Taaramae. Phinney has to be the big favourite but a podium finish could be a realistic target. With Lecuisinier and Ganna also here, this could be a first small pointer towards the title/podium fight.
Eislers is my man for the first stage. A very messy sprint could be possible since both top sprinters dont seem to have a particularly good leadout train here so we could see my Stoltz - Becis - Chavanne train in action i guess? At least ISA and me have a good group of rouleurs so hopefully we can avoid a break victory on the first stage like last year...
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 30-10-2021 11:31
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Great to see the start of the racing season is just around the corner!
Too bad it's with a race where we have no expectations. Breakaways, here we come! I mean, it did work last year
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 30-10-2021 12:18
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Woo! Let's get this season going! Can't wait to see the new and improved Simon Yates in action, plus Cattaneo up against some of the heavy hitters in the Pro Tour.
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| Scorchio |
Posted on 30-10-2021 12:32
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Excited for the start of the season. The Tour of Tasmania organisers must be delighted with the response to the calendar shift after attracting 3 of the top 4 from the PT individual rankings of last season.
ISA - Hexacta have our team leader John Degenkolb here to open his season. John indicated to team management that he wanted to get some racing in his legs before the critical sprinter rendevous in Qatar later this month. Last season he had some spare RD's to use where he checked out some cobbled races, but that experiment did not work out too well, so Tasmania seemed an interesting alternative. This is the only outing of the year where he does not have a full lead-out entourage, so a relatively low key start to the season without too much pressure is envisaged.
From a GC perspective, we go with a two-pronged approach of Sepulveda and Vakoc. Both finished in the mid-20's on GC last year, and hope for better this time around. First priority for the team is to avoid last years scenario where the BotD proved victorious on stage 1, denying the sprinters, and also holding enough of an advantage for some of the break to have a GC impact. A similarly decisive stage 2 as last year is definitely what we are hoping for to put the pure TT riders in difficulty - it was a good day for Vakoc in 2020, but this time around Eduardo needs to be more attentive. If stage 2 proves decisive, there is potential that both riders can grab a top 20 GC result if they then back up in the TT. If stage 2 is a damp squib though, this might prove wasted race days for Vakoc in particular, and a poor ppRD return all-round for team management.
However the race is run, is hard to see past defending race and PT title winners Phinney and Isostar for the win!
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| DubbelDekker |
Posted on 30-10-2021 13:28
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Lets goooo
I'm afraid we're severely outgunned here, but let's hope for some nice depth points.
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 30-10-2021 17:27
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Feels weird not to be reporting the race, the only race I reported for all my three seasons. But as secondary home race (even though I'm sad Launceston got cut as arrival city) it was a no-brainer to go for a wildcard here if we had the cash.
Debut for Hagen who won the race under my guidance in 2018, but that was PCM 15, and the game has moved on since then. I expect maybe more from Uran from a GC perspective, though he is no match to Phinney and Taaramae (ironically the other two riders who I reported to the victory :lol .
Anyway, just glad to see racing get back underway. Good luck to all!
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Posted on 30-10-2021 18:07
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First race at max for Wirtgen, will be interesting to see how he can fare over Stage 2.
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Posted on 30-10-2021 18:08
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Beniusis first PT victory incoming, truly glorious times we live in
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| matt17br |
Posted on 30-10-2021 18:27
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Dennis, Oliveira & Kung thee most iconic trio in MG ready to rip the opener up
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| Bikex |
Posted on 31-10-2021 10:55
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Great to see Gidich so far up the favorite's list. For sure I expected a stronger puncheur field at this race. Bring it on!! |
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| tastasol |
Posted on 31-10-2021 15:17
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Excited to get things going. Hopefully Würtz can do a good TT and a decent GC. Plenty of debutants on our team, so hoping they can get a good start.
Phinney to win it!
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| Roman |
Posted on 31-10-2021 15:18
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Here we go again! Don't expect anything from this race: my fingers are crossed that Prado can somehow survive the hilly stage without any major time loss, with Bertilsson maybe having a small chance for a decent result in sprint stage. Anything better than almost nothing would be a decent surprise for me.
Thanks for the preview, redordead!
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| roturn |
Posted on 31-10-2021 18:32
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Such drunk judges... Feel like I and the minions were robbed here. 
Anyway, 2nd is a lot more than expected seeing such awful train... Hopefully never again see a leadout Barbin/De Kleijn again, later even after working early on already.
Holding the lead despite 1km sprint under the flame Rouge is big. Was expecting to drop far more.
And the end then... Obviously SotD had more money to offer for the officials. Congrats on that win.
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Posted on 31-10-2021 18:43
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Ehm, I guess things went as they should. Can’t really appreciate these many points though when it was obvious that Coquard didn’t win.
I hope this was a one-off so we don’t get these kind of results all the time. I won’t remember seeing it before although there was a photofinish in one of the Continental Championships (I think) where the win was also given to the sprinter I would have Said finished 2nd. That one was very close though. This one seemed very weird, as you can’t even argue that the in game Line was placed different to the visable one.
Eventhough I can’t celebrate the win, I was happy to see that the leadout worked despite Lecuisinier taking part. I think Kortsidakis and Karatzios should be able to do similar when Lecuisinier or Koretzky isn’t there. When they are I guess they Can lend Coquard a hand for a Stage or two.
I hope Lecuisinier won’t be helping Coquard tomorrow though!
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Posted on 31-10-2021 18:46
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Wtf?!?
I mean, we've had stages where the "official" finish line just was elsewhere than the "painted" one, but here Coquard never ever was ahead... Annoying to see such BS already in the first PT stage of the year.
On the other hand, I love to see that trains actually *can* work even in PCM20, gives me something to build my hopes upon
Congrats SotD, seems like you held enough money back after transfers
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| tastasol |
Posted on 31-10-2021 19:13
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Well, that's something new ... Easy stage for us, hopefully we're ready to go tomorrow.
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