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[PT/PCT/CT] Calendar, Goals and Race Profiles 2020
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| redordead |
Posted on 25-09-2020 11:17
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I have fixed the naming discrepancies that were found in all the threads.
"I am a cyclist, I may not be the best, but that is what I strive to be. I may never get there, but I will never quit trying." - Tadej Pogačar
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| Bikex |
Posted on 25-09-2020 12:07
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Tamijo wrote:
Havent checked if the profile is flat or it is has been "stamped" into the zcts.
Either way it does not matter in PCM2018 only the profile matter.
If it looks like a flat/hilly/mountain stage it will play as that, profile markings, HI/MO ratio and all that have no effect.
My gut feeling is that flat icon indicate that a good sprint can sometimes make a difference, would be more fair to say both a good sprint some flat/punch/mo may help but COB is very clearly the dominant factor in a race with red COB icon.
Missed this post, but thanks for the explanation. However I still feel like hills should play an even bigger role and last year's result kind of proves my point imo. But it is what it is.  |
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 27-09-2020 19:25
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Is Vineyards the only race in either C2 or C2HC with mountains and a Flat ITT? I found one with a prologue, one with a MTT and one with a TTT but not another Mountain and ITT race.
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| roturn |
Posted on 28-09-2020 11:54
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I just did send out all budgets by managers, that have sent in their goals yet.
For all others, please send in your goals asap. This also goes for new managers, it is your first task in the Man Game. Please don`t let us wait for it as this Thursday is the deadline to do so before going into transfers. |
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 29-09-2020 13:43
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PT
| Win | Top 3 | Top 5 | Top 10 | Points/KoM Jersey | Stage Win | Other | | Team Standings | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | - | - | - | | Individual Standings | 3 | 2 | - | 1 | - | - | - | | Tour de France | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 2 | - | | Giro d'Italia | 5 | 4 | - | 3 | 3 | 2 | - | | Vuelta a Espana | 5 | 4 | - | 3 | 3 | 2 | - | | Monument | 5 | 4 | - | 3 | - | - | - | | PT Stage Race | 4 | 3 | - | 2 | 2 | 1 | - | | PT Classic | 4 | 3 | - | 2 | - | - | - | | PTHC Stage Race | 4 | - | - | - | - | - | - | | PTHC Classic | 3 | - | - | - | - | - | - | | 15 Stage Wins in a Season | - | - | - | - | - | - | 4 | | 10 Stage Wins in a Season | - | - | - | - | - | - | 3 | | Stage win in All GTs | | | | | | | 3 | | Avoid Relegation | | | | | | | 1 |
Question: Why is there a difference between win a PT Classic and win a PTHC Classic (4 and 3 points) but no difference between win PT Stage Race and win a PTHC Stage Race (both 4 points)? Shouldn't win a PTHC Stage Race and win a PTHC Classic be the same? (both 4 points or both 3 points)
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-09-2020 14:18
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roturn wrote:
I just did send out all budgets by managers, that have sent in their goals yet.
For all others, please send in your goals asap. This also goes for new managers, it is your first task in the Man Game. Please don`t let us wait for it as this Thursday is the deadline to do so before going into transfers.
As the deadline for Goals is technically Thursday, can we still make adjustments to them before that deadline?
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| OlegTinkov |
Posted on 29-09-2020 14:38
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TheManxMissile wrote:
roturn wrote:
I just did send out all budgets by managers, that have sent in their goals yet.
For all others, please send in your goals asap. This also goes for new managers, it is your first task in the Man Game. Please don`t let us wait for it as this Thursday is the deadline to do so before going into transfers.
As the deadline for Goals is technically Thursday, can we still make adjustments to them before that deadline?
If you received your budget it's a done deal I guess (otherwise it wouldn't be fair)
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-09-2020 14:41
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OlegTinkov wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
roturn wrote:
I just did send out all budgets by managers, that have sent in their goals yet.
For all others, please send in your goals asap. This also goes for new managers, it is your first task in the Man Game. Please don`t let us wait for it as this Thursday is the deadline to do so before going into transfers.
As the deadline for Goals is technically Thursday, can we still make adjustments to them before that deadline?
If you received your budget it's a done deal I guess (otherwise it wouldn't be fair)
Everyone knows i'm picking a max 23 points, as i do every year. But i'm raising a specific scenario with Roturn in PM
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 29-09-2020 14:43
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Bikex wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
Havent checked if the profile is flat or it is has been "stamped" into the zcts.
Either way it does not matter in PCM2018 only the profile matter.
If it looks like a flat/hilly/mountain stage it will play as that, profile markings, HI/MO ratio and all that have no effect.
My gut feeling is that flat icon indicate that a good sprint can sometimes make a difference, would be more fair to say both a good sprint some flat/punch/mo may help but COB is very clearly the dominant factor in a race with red COB icon.
Missed this post, but thanks for the explanation. However I still feel like hills should play an even bigger role and last year's result kind of proves my point imo. But it is what it is.
Hope that the change from avg 5 to avg 3 cobbles, in general should make the effect you want, so that hilly cob races will give a better shot for a hilly cobbler.
Even thought the race still has RED icon, it is not all 5*
Longer cob races should favor a stamina cobbler, flat cobs should favor a flat/sprinter type cobbler - you get my drift ?
That is basically why we used a lot of time trying to find a better balance while still aiming for a top cobbler winner 95-99% of the time.
Edited by Tamijo on 29-09-2020 18:43
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| roturn |
Posted on 29-09-2020 14:48
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TheManxMissile wrote:
OlegTinkov wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
roturn wrote:
I just did send out all budgets by managers, that have sent in their goals yet.
For all others, please send in your goals asap. This also goes for new managers, it is your first task in the Man Game. Please don`t let us wait for it as this Thursday is the deadline to do so before going into transfers.
As the deadline for Goals is technically Thursday, can we still make adjustments to them before that deadline?
If you received your budget it's a done deal I guess (otherwise it wouldn't be fair)
Everyone knows i'm picking a max 23 points, as i do every year. But i'm raising a specific scenario with Roturn in PM
The goal cost must remain! Then it`s potentially okay. Not really impacting anyone else in such case and goal deadline was not reached yet.
That said, in future goals will end around renewals, so before bands, which wasn`t possible this season (also due to me being more busy than usual). |
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| roturn |
Posted on 01-10-2020 11:19
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Whoever is yet to do the goals, deadline is today!
In worst case being in danger of losing their MG spot completely.
So please hurry up and do all goals and other stuff before the deadlines. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 01-10-2020 13:11
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Tamijo wrote:
Bikex wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
Havent checked if the profile is flat or it is has been "stamped" into the zcts.
Either way it does not matter in PCM2018 only the profile matter.
If it looks like a flat/hilly/mountain stage it will play as that, profile markings, HI/MO ratio and all that have no effect.
My gut feeling is that flat icon indicate that a good sprint can sometimes make a difference, would be more fair to say both a good sprint some flat/punch/mo may help but COB is very clearly the dominant factor in a race with red COB icon.
Missed this post, but thanks for the explanation. However I still feel like hills should play an even bigger role and last year's result kind of proves my point imo. But it is what it is.
Hope that the change from avg 5 to avg 3 cobbles, in general should make the effect you want, so that hilly cob races will give a better shot for a hilly cobbler.
Even thought the race still has RED icon, it is not all 5*
Longer cob races should favor a stamina cobbler, flat cobs should favor a flat/sprinter type cobbler - you get my drift ?
That is basically why we used a lot of time trying to find a better balance while still aiming for a top cobbler winner 95-99% of the time.
Okay that makes sense. Haven't considered the effect of the lower ratings of the cobbled sections tbh. Let's see how the race turns out this season and if Tom David still doesn't get a top 10 the race can be made hillier for next season then.  |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 01-10-2020 15:59
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Bikex wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
Bikex wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
Havent checked if the profile is flat or it is has been "stamped" into the zcts.
Either way it does not matter in PCM2018 only the profile matter.
If it looks like a flat/hilly/mountain stage it will play as that, profile markings, HI/MO ratio and all that have no effect.
My gut feeling is that flat icon indicate that a good sprint can sometimes make a difference, would be more fair to say both a good sprint some flat/punch/mo may help but COB is very clearly the dominant factor in a race with red COB icon.
Missed this post, but thanks for the explanation. However I still feel like hills should play an even bigger role and last year's result kind of proves my point imo. But it is what it is.
Hope that the change from avg 5 to avg 3 cobbles, in general should make the effect you want, so that hilly cob races will give a better shot for a hilly cobbler.
Even thought the race still has RED icon, it is not all 5*
Longer cob races should favor a stamina cobbler, flat cobs should favor a flat/sprinter type cobbler - you get my drift ?
That is basically why we used a lot of time trying to find a better balance while still aiming for a top cobbler winner 95-99% of the time.
Okay that makes sense. Haven't considered the effect of the lower ratings of the cobbled sections tbh. Let's see how the race turns out this season and if Tom David still doesn't get a top 10 the race can be made hillier for next season then.
Anyway with a reduced workload compared to this season, quite sure we will fix the profile to have a hilly icon, as it will make more sense to distinguish the race further from P-R, as long as COB is the domination factor.
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 01-10-2020 16:04
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I may be being dumb, but are training costs and the transfer sheets available yet?
I want to plug the info of what I have going into transfers into mine ahead of transfers starting.
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 01-10-2020 16:08
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roturn wrote:
The other form of stat increases is training. Prices might stay like last season but will be further explained later. There will also be the 2015 introduced restrictions on the amount of training a team can do each year.
So they might stay like last season; I don't think that's definitive yet 
Transfer sheets haven't been sent out afaik, guess it'll be done soon...
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| roturn |
Posted on 01-10-2020 16:33
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Transfer Sheets come tomorrow. Training remains same.
DB coming in a second. |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 02-10-2020 17:12
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The 2020 edition of Ronde van Nederland now uploaded to profiles, as suggested almost like the 2018 version just with some minor changes to fix sprint issues.
Don’t be fooled by the stage1 profile, PCM2018 cuts a little bit in the end, it is just as uphill as in 2018 (finish just after the top of the hill)
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 10-10-2020 09:53
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For some reason [C2] Tour of Chile was not uploaded correct - now uploaded to profiles
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 10-10-2020 12:12
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[PTHC] Tour of Slovenie uploaded with correct ITT/TTT profiles
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 10-10-2020 12:29
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[PTHC] Tour du Maroc profile fixed to 8 stages
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