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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:05
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df_Trek wrote:
The fact you will vote every day for him doesn't help the town in any way.
The first part is even more proof that you are influenced by his cheating.
And second part, I don't give a shit, it makes no sense for me to play when game has been sabotaged
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:07
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df_Trek wrote:
@Quadsas. The way he got my trust doesn't matter actualy for the aim of the game, until jseadog doesn't break a rule I will cooperate with him, also with more safety as I strongly believe him pro-town.
The fact you will vote every day for him doesn't help the town in any way.
Yes because he has pretty much said he believes my immoral claim about being town but doesn't care because for the integrity for the game he will vote for me no matter what.
He obviously is not going to play anymore, so keeping him in the game and lynching another innocent townie is useless unless we know Marco is mafia for sure. The mafia must be sitting back laughing at the literal town self-destruction.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:09
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Yes, I was influenced, I don't want to hide that. Don't make my error as well if you don't believe him, and try to judge his role among the game if you want to vote for him.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:11
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df_Trek wrote:
Yes, I was influenced, I don't want to hide that. Don't make my error as well if you don't believe him, and try to judge his role among the game if you want to vote for him.
It makes no sense for me to do so as if one person was influenced, so have all the others.
I am totally fine with being replaced if others would like to do that and let the cheater keep playing.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:12
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Did you feel damaged by his declaration?
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:14
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because actually for the town aim is more positive than negative what he did...obviously that he is citizen should be true.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:14
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quadsas wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
Yes, I was influenced, I don't want to hide that. Don't make my error as well if you don't believe him, and try to judge his role among the game if you want to vote for him.
It makes no sense for me to do so as if one person was influenced, so have all the others.
I am totally fine with being replaced if others would like to do that and let the cheater keep playing.
So if I hypothetically implemented some kind of rule just right now where you could not use vulgar language, and you already did in previous post, does that make you a cheater because its a rule even though you did the action BEFORE it was a rule?
Just trying to see what your definition of cheating is and how I did so.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:15
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jseadog1 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
Yes, I was influenced, I don't want to hide that. Don't make my error as well if you don't believe him, and try to judge his role among the game if you want to vote for him.
It makes no sense for me to do so as if one person was influenced, so have all the others.
I am totally fine with being replaced if others would like to do that and let the cheater keep playing.
So if I hypothetically implemented some kind of rule just right now where you could not use vulgar language, and you already did in previous post, does that make you a cheater because its a rule even though you did the action BEFORE it was a rule?
Just trying to see what your definition of cheating is and how I did so.
Quite possibly the worst post in history of posts, holy shit what were you thinking?
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 02:16
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quadsas wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
quadsas wrote:
df_Trek wrote:
Yes, I was influenced, I don't want to hide that. Don't make my error as well if you don't believe him, and try to judge his role among the game if you want to vote for him.
It makes no sense for me to do so as if one person was influenced, so have all the others.
I am totally fine with being replaced if others would like to do that and let the cheater keep playing.
So if I hypothetically implemented some kind of rule just right now where you could not use vulgar language, and you already did in previous post, does that make you a cheater because its a rule even though you did the action BEFORE it was a rule?
Just trying to see what your definition of cheating is and how I did so.
Quite possibly the worst post in history of posts, holy shit what were you thinking?
Not answer the question. Thank you. I rest my case.
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 08:13
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knockout wrote:
Then he was online in the end for long enough to post that long evaluation of all players. I think the natural thing you do when you get online 30 minutes before the end of the day is to see who is about to get lynched and whether one can disagrees with that. Being online for that long and not reacting to the lynch is a strange set of priorities. The quoted post suggests that he would want to protect active players for sure but he didnt cast a vote for marco as one might expect from that earlier post.
As I said earlier, I was in a hurry to get this post out as I feared a nightkill on me (maybe just being paranoid, but that's how I felt back then). I read what was going on before starting the post, then 1 or 2 times in between, but the deadline coming nearer I just wrote myself. When I posted, I saw Croatias claim, not able to think about (or do) much until jandal ended the day.
Plus: Looking back I can see the pointing at me for lynching marco last minute after arguing for no lynch the whole two days, though it wasn't a thought back then.
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Kandes was also a lot in the "members online" list between the end of the day and jandal posting the results of the day. Is that a sign that he F5ed a lot because of being curious about the flip of croatia?
(Marco was the other name who i repeatedly saw in that span. Is that an argument for him too and a sign that i might be wrong about him?)
Investigating my being on the "members online" list will be to no real use, as I log in to write posts and usually don't log out (for laziness and because I can't remember my pcmdaily-password). I also don't log in just for reading all of the posts for the same reason (especially on my phone). |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 17:29
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Alright, catching up again, thoughts:
- The last ones to jump on a lynch wagon are always going to be called out for it. Quadsas is right that hillis did that, and without ample explanation, it will be criticized. However, I also voted for Croatia, so I can't judge the vote itself.
- He's also right that the strongman could have been used last night. ryant was the only confirmed townie with a power role, and the obvious target for both the mafia and the doctor. If the mafia is going aggressive, and didn't want to wait for a detective or doctor claim (which would be more effective than a politician claim imo), they could have used the strongman. I don't think the politician is important enough to justify it, but I could see why someone might think that.
- Trek came back, promised a long post, and never gave it. You always want to give the benefit of the doubt for personal reasons, but it obviously looks bad when you come back later only to promise and then not deliver. Now that replacements are in the rules, it probably makes more sense to either get jandal to find one or at least announce your absence fairly soon, so nobody is wondering where you are. So I still find him suspicious, if only because of the timing. With real life, it's hard to really know though. We are all people with lives outside of the game.
- While I don't think hillis is the most suspicious, "frame job" is becoming quite the buzzword these days. i highly doubt that mafia was specifically trying to frame him. Frankly, lower activity and hesitancy to take a side with personal support is already a red flag. Not saying it's mafia, I have played that way as town before. However, I don't think the mafia would need to frame him to make him a target, nor do I think he's productive enough against them to warrant it.
"Could jdog and bbl please explain (again?) why they hold their vote up? Especially with bbl I had the feeling he had other candidates as well."
- I really thought Croatia was the most suspicious for the reasons I mentioned in the first place, and his actions throughout the day convinced me he was on the ropes from the first accusation, which usually lends itself to a mafia defense. I did have a couple of other candidates, but I decided I had the most hard evidence to go on against Croatia. Ultimately I was wrong, and as I said, I'm sorry I started that movement. But I kept the vote because I believed he was mafia, plain and simple.
- I just disagree with Jdog's "you do anything you have to do to survive." that's what you do if you're mafia, or a power role. A normal townie wants to stay alive because they know they can be trusted, but they shouldn't lynch a likely power role to do so, as they win with the town regardless of whether they are alive at the end. That kind of attitude is a strange defense for a normal townie I think.
- Marco with the same thing, a self defense vote, but I think knockout has incriminated himself enough that this isn't entirely shocking.
- I really like Bikex' recent posts, and I'm tempted to place him as pro-town, though I could be very wrong as always. A good mafia member looks Pro-Town, that's the point! The only thing that's suspect to me is his blaming the town for booting croatia. I still don't think croatia did any favors, and he made his power claim so late that it was very unlikely anything could change at that point.
- Jdog, quadsas and hillis have all been a bit too offended and defensive this game. Doubt all of them are mafia though, so honestly I don't think there's anything to make of it except tensions running high. I agree the Jdog move to bring the rest of the site into it was crappy, but he didn't break a rule. End of story, move on.
At least point, I'm pretty torn. Knockout, Marco, and Jdog all seem suspicious to me. Knockout and Marco playing off each other also seems suspicious to me. I could see them both being mafia. They have an antagonism, but knockout ultimately saved Marcovdw yesterday, and then stated that while he saw today becoming a 1v1, he wanted to avoid it. Could be entirely set up. If they do end up losing one of them, their votes against each other would look to exonerate the other. Then they'd probably have a third mafia member among the silents. I have nothing to back up this theory besides my own feelings on the preceedings though. It's a shot int he dark and likely wrong. Still, I think there is a mafia member among those three, if not two. Frankly, if there isn't, we're already screwed.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 18:28
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7pm GMT tomorrow is the deadline. Shifting an hour earlier now school is starting for me.
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| knockout |
Posted on 28-01-2020 20:09
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baseballlover312 wrote:
They have an antagonism, but knockout ultimately saved Marcovdw yesterday, and then stated that while he saw today becoming a 1v1, he wanted to avoid it.
Huh? 
knockout wrote:
I strongly suggest that you either vote to lynch me or to lynch marco today.
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Calling for a 1vs1 between marco and me was too early in the day. probably should have done that at the end of the day
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 20:28
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knockout wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
They have an antagonism, but knockout ultimately saved Marcovdw yesterday, and then stated that while he saw today becoming a 1v1, he wanted to avoid it.
Huh?
knockout wrote:
I strongly suggest that you either vote to lynch me or to lynch marco today.
knockout wrote:
Calling for a 1vs1 between marco and me was too early in the day. probably should have done that at the end of the day
Huh, I misremembered that, I only remembered that one. is tand corrected.
That still only discredits the idea of an alliance between you.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 20:45
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I am willing to switch my vote back to Marco if enough people want that but I still don't like the manner that quadsas overreacted last night. I simply find it unnecessary.
@bbl, between knockout and Marco, who would you vote for and why?
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 20:50
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jseadog1 wrote:
I am willing to switch my vote back to Marco if enough people want that but I still don't like the manner that quadsas overreacted last night. I simply find it unnecessary.
@bbl, between knockout and Marco, who would you vote for and why?
Probably knockout, simply because some of his major decisions and explanations have been so out of character for him. I think Marco is suspicious as well, but I have much less to go on in terms of comparison with him. knockout is at the very least way out of his element this game, and that's a red flag I can't ignore.
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Posted on 28-01-2020 21:32
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jseadog1 wrote:
I am willing to switch my vote back to Marco if enough people want that but I still don't like the manner that quadsas overreacted last night. I simply find it unnecessary.
@bbl, between knockout and Marco, who would you vote for and why?
You definitely should before the end of the day if you dont convince others of joining you.
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 28-01-2020 21:37
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@knockout: Let's flip the script here. Why should we not vote for you at this point?
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| knockout |
Posted on 28-01-2020 22:33
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hillis91 wrote:
@knockout: Let's flip the script here. Why should we not vote for you at this point?
Hopefully because you believe that im more likely town than marco.
Thats the main reason you should pick your vote by and that i try to follow myself too. Sometimes thats difficult because it means you might eliminate a protown player who would have helped a lot in the rest of the game. This can be a great call like when i pushed for Aquarius in Mafia VIII but it can also be a bad call as we have seen on day 2.
However, if you are very unsure and see us on the same level of trustworthy you might as well vote for the person that tried to give as little reads as possible, didnt generate any discussion and only votes for the sole purpose of not getting lynched himself. None of that benefits the town.
I have no idea if that is an answer that satisfies you or anybody else. I can tell you that im protown but i would say the same as mafia. I could explain that by chance someone who posts a lot also sends out more tells than a quiet player. I could explain that contrary to common believe i played my only ever game as mafia very differently by trying to give as few opinions about anyone except sammyt as possible and ignoring the rest of the flow of discussion but by showing awareness of that fact/tell its also likely that i would play the next game as mafia differently. but none of that matters. In the end you have to ask yourself who you think was more genuine in trying to help the town and that is something that only you can decide for yourself.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 28-01-2020 22:37
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jseadog1 wrote:
I am willing to switch my vote back to Marco if enough people want that but I still don't like the manner that quadsas overreacted last night. I simply find it unnecessary.
@bbl, between knockout and Marco, who would you vote for and why?
youre a cunt, thats not an overreaction
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