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| quadsas |
Posted on 24-01-2020 12:15
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Marcovdw wrote:
knockout wrote:
"Yesterday the discussion was not relevant because i have no idea hwat was going on. Today the discussion is more relevant but i dont know why. We should lynch but i dont know who and im not able to make reads until at least day 4"
That had saved me half an hour if I'd just written that. Croatia's boldness in the post above (post during my writing) probably aludes to me being online all that time.
Quadsas' play is much more tolerable for me this edition. Suggesting the mass role claim is fair enough but he didn't proceed to defend that as erraticly as before. However I do feel he was offended too quickly above, because I think you asked this question to me fairly to a) get activity out of me and b) given the history my opinion of Quadsas now would be good to know. I see absolutely no reason why Quadsas would see offensive in it as it doesn't accuse him of anything.
What are you on about? Seems very forced on your part imo, as it should be obvious to everyone I wasn't offended. I'll have to go back and re-read your posts now, that was very weird of you
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 24-01-2020 14:02
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Just few things that came out from yesterday evening so far.
Bikex post is main matter released in this period, I agree with most of his analysis, so I'm taking in cosideration what i disagree:
-obviously on me, I think that's not deserved, as in particular on day one when there were just 4/5 active members, many of the discussions started from my thoughts. I think that some were good points to elaborate.
-BBl: I find it a bit more suspicious than neutral, but ok atm not my first suspect (I'm going deeper with this in my next analysis)
-Marco: I started on day 1 to have quite a suspect on him, but after we touched the point, it seems that he is not very receptive, he is still posting something that means nothing, alternate to (imo) good ones. This looks to me more as a lazy player than suspect, but ok, one to be careful with.
Marco's today post seems a good one, I just hope soon or later he will bring something more like Bikex did yesterday
Quadsas: agree with a mixed analysis between bikex and marco, he is playng aggressive, but not so heavy like before, he looks also quiter than day 1. Mafia who want to stay low lightened? Townie who want to survive a bit more than last game, and apparently more collaborative? I have no good indication to answer atm
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 24-01-2020 15:02
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I want to give a try on reasonings by group. Not exactly to find couples of players that seems in a dirty agreement, but more like to find the bad weed in little lawn.
Croatia's stuff: Croatia - Jseadog - BBL
This is my main belief, as I strongly believe that there's a (and ONLY one) mafia member between them. Looking at the first actions of the day this was immediately my thought, and going on the day, I found Croatia more a "victim" of this stuff, while jseadog is still charging on him. I think also that BBL's statements seem more fruitful, althoug this doesn't delete his suspicious action at the start of the day.
First hours activity: Knockout, Kandesbunzler, Sammy, ryant, df_Trek, quadsas
In my post #80 I said that was stupid for mafia to let all 3 memebers silent for almost 48 hours, so I stated that there was likely a mafia memeber between them. This are the names that somehow interacted in the speeches that were running (there are also just a couple of off-topic post by jseadog and croatia), and at this point I can look to just 3 of them. Kandes has a bit of trust more than other two at my eyes, but they remains a 50/50 call...I'm considering lesser and lesser this view, but I don't want to spit in this plate yet...
or maybe those off-topic post are the key?
Practically inactive players of day 1: Hillis, jaxika, Bikex, Marco
I would add Waghlon (meaningless at this point), and BBL that was all day silent except a single post that actually was quite good.
imo, looking at how the day was apparently quiet, it is likely a good move by mafia to let a player not playing his cards.
What I can consider to evalutate this players is just their reaction at when being called out. I found Hilis one the weirdest, and put suspect on him. btw the seeming good reasons by the others aren't enough as well to avoid to be considered potential mafia members.
In day two I had a little town vibe by bikex and Marco. Needs jaxika presence.
The most acute of you noted that Trekbmc isn't in any group. This is just because he didn't take part of that kind of situations. I would consider him more in a "Trekbmc - Knockout clash", but this is an hard context to analyze. I felt him more like a pro-town, but the fact that he avoided to write right when his case was quietening doesn't help his clean criminal record.
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| quadsas |
Posted on 24-01-2020 15:12
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df_Trek wrote:
Just few things that came out from yesterday evening so far.
Bikex post is main matter released in this period, I agree with most of his analysis, so I'm taking in cosideration what i disagree:
-obviously on me, I think that's not deserved, as in particular on day one when there were just 4/5 active members, many of the discussions started from my thoughts. I think that some were good points to elaborate.
-BBl: I find it a bit more suspicious than neutral, but ok atm not my first suspect (I'm going deeper with this in my next analysis)
-Marco: I started on day 1 to have quite a suspect on him, but after we touched the point, it seems that he is not very receptive, he is still posting something that means nothing, alternate to (imo) good ones. This looks to me more as a lazy player than suspect, but ok, one to be careful with.
Marco's today post seems a good one, I just hope soon or later he will bring something more like Bikex did yesterday
Quadsas: agree with a mixed analysis between bikex and marco, he is playng aggressive, but not so heavy like before, he looks also quiter than day 1. Mafia who want to stay low lightened? Townie who want to survive a bit more than last game, and apparently more collaborative? I have no good indication to answer atm
How do you look at Marco's post and think that was 'good'?
I agree on hillis, we need to poke at him a bit more, but marco's post was horrendously sus
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 24-01-2020 15:34
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quadsas wrote:
How do you look at Marco's post and think that was 'good'?
I agree on hillis, we need to poke at him a bit more, but marco's post was horrendously sus
I think he didn't use the right words, that's the reason, but I find his comment more by a player that hasn't much to lose (therefore not by a mafia member).
Anyway I hope I wasn't too comforting, because yes, we need more by him. I called him "lazy townie" if I have to bet a penny...but he is surely not a player who I trust atm.
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 24-01-2020 16:36
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okay right now we have only 3 lynch votes after 48 hours, which is pretty much
unacceptable - if everybody would at least place a lynch vote on their highest suspicion we can prevent the mafia from playing the waiting game right now and just keeping out - let us pressure them a bit at least to have some action
right now we have bbl & jseadog voting on me and me voting on jdog
I have to admit that the degree of involvement by bbl was a risky move if he would be mafia so that slightly lowers my suspicion on him - he also tried to bring up arguments
on the other side I still see jseadog as the prime target, mostly due to his reaction to the post
alongside him Marco tops my list, as I can't find anything new/analytic in his posts and they seem like alibi activity - combined with my impression on day 1 he is somebody I'd consider lynching |
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| ryant |
Posted on 24-01-2020 17:17
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lynch hillis
More of an activity vote more than anything. Although I'm still really susp of quadsas - why are you withholding your reads on other players? Especially since you said you are waiting for voting blocks to form but didnt suggest Croatia's gambit yourself? Seems to me you are hiding.
Kandes is getting a free pass in my eyes, saying you dont want to lynch is just about ok in my eyes, but what about sharing your opinion more? This solitary post early on days then disappearing for long periods of time dont do you any good (or the town)
Overall I'm susp of
jseadog, quadsas (+ knockout), kandes, hillis and the other inactive folk I have no real opinion on
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 24-01-2020 20:40
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| jaxika |
Posted on 24-01-2020 21:17
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Hey. Just a few thoughts.
After day 1 I maintain my suspicions about Trekbmc. He didn't added any more ön day 2, staying in low radar, but i know he is a smart guy.
About day 2 happenings. I think one of the Croatia, jseadog, Bbl trio is maffia. But the puzzle didn't fullfill to meg clearly. But if I need tó choose one scenario , then I think jseadog is the wrong guy, Bbl was misleaded amd Croatia wrongly accused.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 24-01-2020 21:39
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I am not mafia you guys. It might not be the best defense to come out and say it but it is the cold hard TRUTH.
If you lynch me and I prove to be mafia, I will not come to PCM.Daily for the remainder of 2020 and I will not organize any NFL prediction/fantasy games. That is how much I am promising you guys that I am TOWN.
This is not me saying 'if you lynch me I am going to be childish and go away', it is me saying that I SWEAR I AM NOT MAFIA!!!
Please, focus your attention on someone else. I was literally posting on the start of Day 2 about sammy because I scrolled through to look at his last post and pasted what I found. It was a completely random act and could easily be done to frame me considering how much I advocated for sammy's lynch on Day 1 the past 2 times I played. In the end, I just ended up framing myself because I was the first one to post on the new day... What else was I going to post that did not leave me suspicious.
I can't tell you the alignment of Croatia or bbl but I agree that one of them is mafia but if you lynch me you will find out you simply made the incorrect decision.
Now seriously, with how active I am on this site, this post has to be persuasive enough to you guys to not vote for me.
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| knockout |
Posted on 24-01-2020 22:04
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jseadog1 wrote:
If you lynch me and I prove to be mafia, I will not come to PCM.Daily for the remainder of 2020 and I will not organize any NFL prediction/fantasy games. That is how much I am promising you guys that I am TOWN.
Does the same count for the case that you don't get lynched today but end up being in the mafia?
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 24-01-2020 22:05
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knockout wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
If you lynch me and I prove to be mafia, I will not come to PCM.Daily for the remainder of 2020 and I will not organize any NFL prediction/fantasy games. That is how much I am promising you guys that I am TOWN.
Does the same count for the case that you don't get lynched today but end up being in the mafia?
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 24-01-2020 22:22
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I was about to say that I will believe you because you are pushing the limit to a level that I wanna trust you jseadog.
But then again I've been blinded once by him in the awesome Mafia 8 with the Wrestlemania excuse where I turned to trust him for emotional issues
Spoiler jseadog1 wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
I loved this game, great game everybody:
then my very first guess on jseadog was right  I definitely got blinded to trust df_trek because he was the only one siding me for most of the game - smart play by him, in hindsight I maybe should've recognized, but that's life...
the mafia played it very well! I only hope the statement on wrestlemania was true, jseadog, cause that finally convinced me you're town otherwise I'm very disappointed
Yes! It was most definitely true. Friday, Saturday, and Sunday I played the game from New York City and hoped I could weasel my way by. I knew when I returned I would be active.
That said I will at this point, even if it's currently at my own cost, switch my vote over to lynch marcovdw tu put some pressure on him as I have seen nothing impressive from him yet. May turn back to jseadog depending on the developments, but we need to start pressuring the more suspicius quite ones and neither my case for bbl nor for jseadog seems as clear cut to me as it did 24 hours ago.
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| knockout |
Posted on 24-01-2020 22:37
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I'm focussing on looking at day 1 action right now but if someone who doesnt trust his own reads as much would be willing to look through jseadogs games as mafia to search for sth definitive along the lines of "I am town. You can trust me on this". While i hate that stuff he definitely played with that argument before.
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 24-01-2020 22:54
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jseadog1 wrote:
I am not mafia you guys. It might not be the best defense to come out and say it but it is the cold hard TRUTH.
If you lynch me and I prove to be mafia, I will not come to PCM.Daily for the remainder of 2020 and I will not organize any NFL prediction/fantasy games. That is how much I am promising you guys that I am TOWN.
This is not me saying 'if you lynch me I am going to be childish and go away', it is me saying that I SWEAR I AM NOT MAFIA!!!
Wow...this is quite a shocking post, I don't know how to consider it, really I don't know.
I always tried to exclude everything outside this thread to judge the position of the players, but this as you say is a swearing call of innocence involving something bigger than this.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 25-01-2020 00:15
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In my opinion an incredibly poor post from jseadog. I'm not sure if we should include activities outside of this game on the page in here?
Even if I don't like that post, it removes jseadog from the top of my suspect list, as I doubt he would have put up such an extreme post if he was mafia.
@df_trek: No need to get defensive, I was only saying that I would be cautious with declaring you a clear pro town player. You are not one of my top suspects.
Croatia's stuff: Croatia - Jseadog - BBL
This is my main belief, as I strongly believe that there's a (and ONLY one) mafia member between them.
Maybe can you explain to me why you are so sure that there is exactly one mafia player among these 3? I think that's quite a strange thing to say. Why would it be exactly one? It can be none or even a combination of these 2 (only Croatia and jseadog together in the mafia wouldn't make sense to me). Why are you not considering these options? Saying you think it's exactly one sounds a little bit like a pseudo argument.
About marco I'm not agreeing with you, just because he seems like a lazy player doesn't make him not mafia. I'd even say a lazy mafia player would play very similarly to him. Also his last post does not convince me otherwise.
Although it feels weird to be pushing in the same direction as Croatia, I will also vote to lynch marcovdw, after I got a better feeling about jseadog's alignment with his latest post. |
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 25-01-2020 00:16
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Considering this situation I prefer to take a look away from the Croatia-BBL-jseadog triangle, where atm I'm not able to take a decision.
Today many inactive people remained so. I disagree with this attitude, thus I cast a vote to lynch hillis, and his posts are the weaker I found from all the people still alive.
There's already a vote on him, I hope this can solicit some observation by him.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 25-01-2020 00:26
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knockout wrote:
jseadog1 wrote:
If you lynch me and I prove to be mafia, I will not come to PCM.Daily for the remainder of 2020 and I will not organize any NFL prediction/fantasy games. That is how much I am promising you guys that I am TOWN.
Does the same count for the case that you don't get lynched today but end up being in the mafia?
I don't see why that is what you thought about first when reading jseadogs post? Asking this does not clarify anything. What's the point? |
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 25-01-2020 00:28
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Bikex wrote:
Croatia's stuff: Croatia - Jseadog - BBL
This is my main belief, as I strongly believe that there's a (and ONLY one) mafia member between them.
Maybe can you explain to me why you are so sure that there is exactly one mafia player among these 3? I think that's quite a strange thing to say. Why would it be exactly one? It can be none or even a combination of these 2 (only Croatia and jseadog together in the mafia wouldn't make sense to me). Why are you not considering these options? Saying you think it's exactly one sounds a little bit like a pseudo argument.
yes, I think that for Croatia being mafia it's very dangerous if he have a partner between them, both voting already for him starting a train with 2 votes, therefore I find very very unlikely Croatia fitting with both of them.
Talking about BBL and jseadog, I find a wretched strategy by mafia to cast so fast two votes against a single player. So I find also their action disconnected by purposeful aim.
But all what happened looks too pushed to be just a townies' misleading, so this let me think there's at least a mafia member acting inside this.
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| jseadog1 |
Posted on 25-01-2020 00:29
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Bikex wrote:
In my opinion an incredibly poor post from jseadog. I'm not sure if we should include activities outside of this game on the page in here?
Even if I don't like that post, it removes jseadog from the top of my suspect list, as I doubt he would have put up such an extreme post if he was mafia.
@df_trek: No need to get defensive, I was only saying that I would be cautious with declaring you a clear pro town player. You are not one of my top suspects.
Croatia's stuff: Croatia - Jseadog - BBL
This is my main belief, as I strongly believe that there's a (and ONLY one) mafia member between them.
Maybe can you explain to me why you are so sure that there is exactly one mafia player among these 3? I think that's quite a strange thing to say. Why would it be exactly one? It can be none or even a combination of these 2 (only Croatia and jseadog together in the mafia wouldn't make sense to me). Why are you not considering these options? Saying you think it's exactly one sounds a little bit like a pseudo argument.
About marco I'm not agreeing with you, just because he seems like a lazy player doesn't make him not mafia. I'd even say a lazy mafia player would play very similarly to him. Also his last post does not convince me otherwise.
Although it feels weird to be pushing in the same direction as Croatia, I will also vote to lynch marcovdw, after I got a better feeling about jseadog's alignment with his latest post.
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