kandesbunzler26 wrote:
I'm not sure lynching mostly at random is a good idea. In Mafia VIII we lynched a mafia player the first day (mostly by chance to be honest), drew the wrong conclusions from it and never got near the other two mafias for the rest of the game. Mafia IX went even worse for the town, when only townies were lynched (once deliberately putting up with lynching someone most players thought was pro-town).

I tend more to the idea TMM uttered back then of not lynching in the first days, basically giving the power roles of the town (especially the detective and the tracker) more time to get some infomation. Particularly the detective basically has to double-check each player, as he could get both a wrong pro-town (for the godfather) or a wrong pro-mafia (because of the framer). Randomly lynching will result in quickly reducing the pro-town faction while simultaneously cutting the amount of times the pro-town power roles who could find the mafia can learn something about what's going on. Doesn't sound too good to me. On the other hand we're at a 12-3 ratio at the moment, having some reserves of plain townies to hide the power roles and buy us some time to get them being of use.

sammyt93 wrote:
Correct me if I'm being an idiot, but isn't the politician the best end game role the town has available in this game?

I know the doctor cannot protect themselves but can they protect the same person continuously? If so then the only 1 role claims makes some sense but overall I don't like the idea as it seems to me it would create 1 person that the town would look towards to drive the discussion which is what Jseadog said (and knockout agreed) that we don't want.

ryant wrote:
The only role I'd want to claim early if at all is the politician, they are probably the most dispensable role early game compared to the other power roles, think I've said before that after 2-3 days the others should really come out then when they have a little more information to share.

Im also lynching sammyt93, I normally have a blind spot for them and putting a lynch vote on him should make him post a little more beyond that first post which does at first glance look like solid logic.

knockout wrote:
Don't really want to lead out myself with that again so has anybody noticed sth/someone that he thinks is suspicious?

knockout wrote:


It's been nearly 2,5 days of our ~4 days on the first game day and we have no discussion on any suspicisions / reads and we really need to get things rolling so here are my better town reads for now:



- Bikex only has the one post #23 but i like the tone of his post a lot.
- df_trek did those short messages as mafia too but i like to see how his opinion on some things seem to change in a very believable way.
(slightly less strong read)
- sammys attempt to discuss the setup looks like a genuine attempt to improve his understanding of the situation. While that might not necessarily mean that he is also protown, I'm more confident in that allignment than most other players.

Do you agree / disagree? Who do you see as the most likely pro-town players? Who do you see as the most likely mafia members right now?

ryant wrote:


While I did the same last game and was town I'm genuinely not too sure we can put this as a pro town read personally. For me its fairly innocuous to ask a random question on how the game works and still not offer real discussion on reads and so forth. For me, you could easily do that as mafia.

Even so, I do like sammy's thoughts on the politician role being strong late game as its good to break tie breaks especially if we have a less active town member late on.

df_trek's understading of the tracker role could be unintentional but can be seen as an attempt at deception? since I feel the tracker role is pretty easy to understand

Power roles should come out after 2-3 days as I've said before, one day is often not enough for people to get enough useful information like you've said. The politician is the only role that should come out to bait the strongman kill early imo.