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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 25-08-2019 17:03
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Miguel98 wrote:
I've just entered the bandwagon for Aru to win 
Embarassing by Astana today. Where were they?
If it wasnt for that TTT crash wed be in the buisness but Im still confident he will grow in shape and ultrapeak in the 3rd week |
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| Agent David |
Posted on 25-08-2019 17:11
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Poels and Hart 10 minutes down. GC ends for them I think.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-08-2019 17:26
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Havnt seen the stage but well done by Nairoman and looks like Vuelta is off to a great start, kicking out that disappointing finale of TDF in an instant.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 25-08-2019 17:35
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Miguel98 wrote:
I've just entered the bandwagon for Aru to win
Embarassing by Astana today. Where were they?
Yeah they really left Clark Kent all alone
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-08-2019 18:02
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Just normal first week Superman things, he always finds ways to screw himself over
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 25-08-2019 21:44
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They worked all day to control the break and were empty in the finale of the stage
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-08-2019 09:08
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Indeed first hill and here we go. Like Giro.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 26-08-2019 09:12
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Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.
Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 26-08-2019 09:20
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ringo182 wrote:
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.
Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.
How sprinters would have survived that final steep climb? |
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 26-08-2019 09:59
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Guido Mukk wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.
Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.
How sprinters would have survived that final steep climb?
It was only 3km. If Astana hadn't turned it into a GC race by killing all the sprinters early on, the break might still have been away at the decisive climb and it would have been climbed at a steadier pace. As it was they chased them down too fast when there was no need at all for them to chase. Astana did themselves yesterday.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 26-08-2019 14:10
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But I was told that hilly stages that don't have an uphill finish don't deliver...
Great win by Quintana.
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Gracias Alberto.
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| Yellow Jersey |
Posted on 26-08-2019 14:50
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ringo182 wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Astana got their tactics all wrong. Absolutely no need to control the break all day yesterday. Let the sprint teams do it. Instead they destroyed the sprinters and so took away the teams who might have helped them control the race and basically took all their rivals to the bottom of the key climb without having to do any work at all.
Why would you want to defend the red jersey on stage 2 if your going for the overall won? Let the break go away and let some random from a minor Spanish team have it for a few days.
How sprinters would have survived that final steep climb?
It was only 3km. If Astana hadn't turned it into a GC race by killing all the sprinters early on, the break might still have been away at the decisive climb and it would have been climbed at a steadier pace. As it was they chased them down too fast when there was no need at all for them to chase. Astana did themselves yesterday.
That was NEVER going to be for the sprinters. It's a 3Km climb with 20% ramps, everyone entering the climb already in a brutal pace. There was no climbing at a steadier pace in a climb like that.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 26-08-2019 15:08
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Yes, buy if the sprinters were at the bottom they may well have got dropped, but there was Enough time to chase back on. Also, they raced so hard that they split the peloton up before they even got to the climb? Why? Why not let the break go away and let other teams chase it down, teams who aren't trying to win overal.
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| Malkael |
Posted on 26-08-2019 16:21
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Purely unstoppable in the sprint today, Sam Bennet with the stage victory.
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| Yellow Jersey |
Posted on 26-08-2019 17:22
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ringo182 wrote:
Yes, buy if the sprinters were at the bottom they may well have got dropped, but there was Enough time to chase back on. Also, they raced so hard that they split the peloton up before they even got to the climb? Why? Why not let the break go away and let other teams chase it down, teams who aren't trying to win overal.
They raced hard to enter the climb well positioned, not to get caught out. Steep climb 101. I get where you're coming from but I think in any scenario it would be too hard for the sprinters, Aranburu resisted, maybe Mezgec or some other one could've but still unlikely.
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| MrUfo87 |
Posted on 26-08-2019 20:29
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Jumbo-Visma's crash in the time trial was such a pity. Fun fact: It's the only grand tour this year they failed to take the stage win + leader jersey on the first stage (Roglic did so at the Giro, Teunissen at the Tour).
Yesterday was great. It looks like Team Ineos isn't that strong.
And I'm curious how strong Sam Bennett is compared to the sprinters who participated in the Tour. He beat Groenwegen three times in the BinckBank Tour, but Groenewegen was already quite tired there. Curious to see how good Bennett actually is.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 26-08-2019 21:28
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Bennett now stage winner of all three GTs, crazy good in for. right now
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| VoetsT |
Posted on 26-08-2019 22:17
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Shonak wrote:
Bennett now stage winner of all three GTs, crazy good in for. right now
Did he won a stage in the tour???
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| Omloop |
Posted on 26-08-2019 22:19
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VoetsT wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Bennett now stage winner of all three GTs, crazy good in for. right now
Did he won a stage in the tour???
Nope, best stage result in the tour is 9th. |
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| msmhuelva |
Posted on 26-08-2019 23:03
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starlist please? |
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