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Mafia IX | Tick Tock Tick Tock
sammyt93
Considering the deadline is tonight it worries me how quiet it is in here today, nobody seems to like the idea of the town roles revealing themselves, even though the whole point of this game is to narrow down the list of potential mafia suspects until you have found them all and the town roles revealing themselves give you a massive headstart towards that as you have ruled people out of contention for potentially being mafia without actually killing any townies.

The fact people would rather risk accidentally lynching a townie to do that doesn't make sense to me but whatever, I can see arguing this is any further is pointless, especially as after today it will be too late as too many people will have died to make it a viable strategy anymore.

The fact that no-one seems to have tried to drive the discussion at all today or direct the discussion away from whether or not the town roles should come out by questioning others until now suggests the town is not wanting to win the game.

It's clear the town doesn't like the suggestion me and Quadsas were putting forth and don't want to go with it, but my calls for someone else to step up and lead us if they don't agree don't appear to have been answered which only plays into the mafia's hands. The less organised the town is the easier the game is for the mafia.

Seeing as Ryant is the only confirmed townie so far I would love to see his next post and who he thinks is the most suspicious, his vote counts double in a tie and seeing as he is confirmed town, and I don't really have any strong mafia tells from anyone yet, I'd be happy to follow whoever he votes for as I know I can trust him to be trying to find the mafia.

Lilke I previously posted, Ryant is definitely town, I am convinced Quadsas is town and am leaning town on df_trek. I haven't got a good read either way on anyone else, but that only makes me think the mafia is trying to blend in this game which makes me they are either being deliberately quiet, i.e. TMM or posting without really contributing anything i.e. Jseadog.

So I'm going to vote Lynch Jseadog for now to try and get something of note out of him seeing as that's the way the rest of the town seems to want to play this.

I've been unimpressed with his posts so far, if he is town he is playing into the mafia's hands by making posts but not really putting any pressure on people to find out who is likely mafia or who is likely safe. If he is mafia then he is blending in well by making similar posts to everyone else, but something about him still feels a little off, it's not a strong feeling but it's better than nothing, it might be how bad that earlier post I called out was but I can't say I've seen much better from anyone else.
 
Croatia14
Mafia member feeling tension now that his closest ally may be in trouble? no surprise - that you're jumping on quasdas outrageously stupid idea makes it even worse. Or good, for you, if you are mafia which you more and more likely are. Especially as this paragraph may be the one of the most pathetic I've seen in several mafia seasons.

The fact people would rather risk accidentally lynching a townie to do that doesn't make sense to me but whatever, I can see arguing this is any further is pointless, especially as after today it will be too late as too many people will have died to make it a viable strategy anymore.


Please offer up some sort of analysis next time and don't just reiterate former statements. F.e. I'd love to have you elaborating on my analysis of the night kill. I'm astonished by the fact that nobody really discussed possible motives of lynching jandal really, especially following up my post.

While I like putting pressure on jseadog, and agree he's been uninspiring and certainly is climbing the ladders of the lynch list, for me you're right now shining bright on top of it. And this post didn't pull you out of the slump at all.

However, you have a point on ryant. It is very important that he raises his voice sooner than later and shares his current thoughts. Especially as he is one of the few that didn't put up a lynch so far, not even hinting really in any direction.
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jseadog1
sammy it never fails that you always target me when playing and you have nobody else to turn to? Why do you think just because I play the game well sometimes that I am always a threat to be lynched?

It's an OPINION that you think I am making worthless posts that are not beneficial and "blending" in. In reality, I have played this way every single game I have ever played so what makes this instance any different? If every single person revealed their role, the game would be pointless from the start because we would know. The power roles would go majorly uncontested. I can confirm I am not a neighbor, I will indeed go that far.

But to reveal my 100% role and allow the mafia the opportunity to know is down right crazy. I am sticking by my vote and hope you at least can give me the benefit of the doubt for now.

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sammyt93
jseadog1 wrote:
sammy it never fails that you always target me when playing and you have nobody else to turn to? Why do you think just because I play the game well sometimes that I am always a threat to be lynched?

It's an OPINION that you think I am making worthless posts that are not beneficial and "blending" in. In reality, I have played this way every single game I have ever played so what makes this instance any different? If every single person revealed their role, the game would be pointless from the start because we would know. The power roles would go majorly uncontested. I can confirm I am not a neighbor, I will indeed go that far.

But to reveal my 100% role and allow the mafia the opportunity to know is down right crazy. I am sticking by my vote and hope you at least can give me the benefit of the doubt for now.


The general demeanor of your posts in these games always boils down to I don't know who is mafia, I don't want to be killed, I'll wait for someone else to do something, be it town role to find something and come out or someone else to push people in debate. You always play like you are scared to put a target on yourself by pushing on somebody or for something, and that is hard to tell if it's a mafia member or a townie that just wants to win a numbers game.

Others have always been more proactive in questioning people and trying to draw out responses than you, it always feels like somebody has to put pressure on you to get you to stick your neck out and say anything worthwhile, and being proactive is an early town tell because it helps show that the player wants to find the mafia, and as you can see from my posts this game or previous games, where I have always been a townie, I am not afraid to go against the grain and push what I believe even if it gets me killed for it.

The mafia have far less numbers than the town so it makes sense that the mafia are the ones that are the most scared to be lynched, town members should be wanting to drive the discussion and find the mafia, even the town roles should be active, they can use the discussion to narrow down the list of people they need to search, and by revealing early everyone knows the suspect pool is a lot shorter and we can avoid wasting time in the discussions.
 
jseadog1
I have been mafia on Daily like 1 time ever? So 1 out of 8 are excellent odds to you? Everybody plays this game a different way, look at quadsas. I'm not sure what you want me to say, I don't see how I am playing this game differently than any other time before.

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sammyt93
Croatia14 wrote:
Mafia member feeling tension now that his closest ally may be in trouble? no surprise - that you're jumping on quasdas outrageously stupid idea makes it even worse. Or good, for you, if you are mafia which you more and more likely are. Especially as this paragraph may be the one of the most pathetic I've seen in several mafia seasons.


Do you really think a mafia member would suggest that or push that hard for it and risk exposing themselves?

The fact people would rather risk accidentally lynching a townie to do that doesn't make sense to me but whatever, I can see arguing this is any further is pointless, especially as after today it will be too late as too many people will have died to make it a viable strategy anymore.


Please offer up some sort of analysis next time and don't just reiterate former statements. F.e. I'd love to have you elaborating on my analysis of the night kill. I'm astonished by the fact that nobody really discussed possible motives of lynching jandal really, especially following up my post.


I think Quadsas called for Jandal to be saved because the obvious play would be saving ryant, so the mafia would expect a save on ryant. My best guess would be trying to bait the mafia into going for Jandal, hoping the doctor would listen to him.

While I like putting pressure on jseadog, and agree he's been uninspiring and certainly is climbing the ladders of the lynch list, for me you're right now shining bright on top of it. And this post didn't pull you out of the slump at all.

However, you have a point on ryant. It is very important that he raises his voice sooner than later and shares his current thoughts. Especially as he is one of the few that didn't put up a lynch so far, not even hinting really in any direction.

 
Croatia14
sammyt93 wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
Mafia member feeling tension now that his closest ally may be in trouble? no surprise - that you're jumping on quasdas outrageously stupid idea makes it even worse. Or good, for you, if you are mafia which you more and more likely are. Especially as this paragraph may be the one of the most pathetic I've seen in several mafia seasons.


Do you really think a mafia member would suggest that or push that hard for it and risk exposing themselves?


Yes, I really think the mafia would like to know every power role to kill them one by one. And I can imagine that being worth pushing for.
 
df_Trek
We need more by ryant Sad , maybe his days are busy in this period, but actually he is the only confirmed townie and he can express ideas without the risk to expose himself...and his vote is the only one missing if I'm correct...
 
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quadsas
Croatia14 wrote:
sammyt93 wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
Mafia member feeling tension now that his closest ally may be in trouble? no surprise - that you're jumping on quasdas outrageously stupid idea makes it even worse. Or good, for you, if you are mafia which you more and more likely are. Especially as this paragraph may be the one of the most pathetic I've seen in several mafia seasons.


Do you really think a mafia member would suggest that or push that hard for it and risk exposing themselves?


Yes, I really think the mafia would like to know every power role to kill them one by one. And I can imagine that being worth pushing for.


If you THOUGHT for a second, like go ahead and think, maybe open up paint and draw a little flowchart, you would quickly see how ridiculous you appear
deez
 
df_Trek
Detective claim has no sense with a strongman around until he actually find something... and with already 2 townies down and another confirmed one is better for him to stay quiet and search between a number that isn't so bad to find a mafia member.
 
quadsas
Since I am dying anyways, I'll just say this: with this rolelist, a competent town wins 100% of the time (or very, very close to 100% due to unforeseen circumstances). It would require a townie to gamethrow to lose this, basically.
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df_Trek
we will see at the end, anyway I think there are other ones that likely should be lynched today, but seems is too late
 
quadsas
df_Trek wrote:
we will see at the end, anyway I think there are other ones that likely should be lynched today, but seems is too late


you can always vote jseadog, it's 3 for me to 2 for him
deez
 
df_Trek
I'm already on another one with 2 that I think more suspicious than jseadog
 
quadsas
df_Trek wrote:
I'm already on another one with 2 that I think more suspicious than jseadog


Then I guess I'll die.
deez
 
df_Trek
If I vote for jseadog You'll die the same, I'm not the one who have to change the vote
 
knockout
Night 2:

The town decided to take revenge for the murder of jandal7 by lynching the loud and active quadsas. It turns out that he tried to do the same thing by provoking the mafia to make mistakes. This is a sad day for the town as they lose someone who was pro-town.

Dead:
Marcovdw
jandal7
quadsas

Alive:
baseballlover312
Croatia14
df_Trek
hillis91
jseadog1
ryant
sammyt93
TheManxMissile
Trekbmc

The night will last 24 hours.
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sammyt93
Quadsas, who are you currently voting for? We could both change to match df_trek to save you
 
knockout
Day 3:

During sunrise a shot was heard: A headshot killed ryant who was one of the most well respected pro-town citizens.

Dead:
Marcovdw
jandal7
quadsas
ryant

Alive:
baseballlover312
Croatia14
df_Trek
hillis91
jseadog1
sammyt93
TheManxMissile
Trekbmc

The day will last 70 hours. (will end on Sunday, 21h daily time).
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters!

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df_Trek
The death of ryant, something that definitely doesn't tell much to the city. He was pretty inactive and pointed (besides Marco on first day) Sammy and TMM, but with skinny argumentation. Maybe the reasons we can find for this kill are:
1- he was likely the only one who anyhow the townies won't lynch.
2- his death gives low tracks for the city.
3- the politician can be really uncomfortable with less and less players.
 
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