I agree with Sammy, I don't like Hills vote by Jseadog, anyway is senseless now that Hillis is raisen again.
@jseadog, you said thers's something to ponder on doc not hearing at quadsas for avoiding jandal's death, what do you think about it?
df_Trek wrote:
I agree with Sammy, I don't like Hills vote by Jseadog, anyway is senseless now that Hillis is raisen again.
@jseadog, you said thers's something to ponder on doc not hearing at quadsas for avoiding jandal's death, what do you think about it?
I've no idea why anyone would pay much attention to the fact that doc wasn't on jandal. I only mentioned it in passing because as I said he played like a strong role. Which means he could've been doc himself. And if doctor is still alive, he doesn't have to listen to my random remark
to post something like this isn't something not significant, I wouldn't call it a random remark, why do it if you don't think the doc had to follow it?
anyway this catch our attention, not saying there's something wrong on your last day1 post, but also why mafia decided to kill right him
df_Trek wrote:
to post something like this isn't something not significant, I wouldn't call it a random remark, why do it if you don't think the doc had to follow it?
anyway this catch our attention, not saying there's something wrong on your last day1 post, but also why mafia decided to kill right him
I didn't post expecting doc to do it. If anyone actually thinks my post and doc not following is something significant, you're out of your mind
I didn't post expecting doc to do it. If anyone actually thinks my post and doc not following is something significant, you're out of your mind
jseadog wrote it, so it's better that you start to read what is written in this thread, but I know is not somnething you are used to.
I still can't understand why you post a name to indicate to the doc, but not expecting this will be followed and moreover you don't care about it.
In any case I was shifting the target on why Mafia killed Jandal and if this is somehow linked (I assume yes) to the fact you nominated him
df_Trek wrote:
I agree with Sammy, I don't like Hills vote by Jseadog, anyway is senseless now that Hillis is raisen again.
@jseadog, you said thers's something to ponder on doc not hearing at quadsas for avoiding jandal's death, what do you think about it?
Maybe the doc thought they were mafia teammates and it was a ploy? Otherwise the doc simply doesn't trust quedsas or want to listen to what he says. Can you blame them? I mean the mafia easily could have thought the doc wouldnt listen to quedsas and therefore jandal was an easy target.
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I didn't post expecting doc to do it. If anyone actually thinks my post and doc not following is something significant, you're out of your mind
jseadog wrote it, so it's better that you start to read what is written in this thread, but I know is not somnething you are used to.
I still can't understand why you post a name to indicate to the doc, but not expecting this will be followed and moreover you don't care about it.
In any case I was shifting the target on why Mafia killed Jandal and if this is somehow linked (I assume yes) to the fact you nominated him
lmao, are you kidding me? What does jseadog posting that has anything to do with the fact that you keep going and going on about it. I've no clue what you're trying to accomplish here. are you trying to say jseadog is doc and strongman was used? Are you saying that me publicly asking doc to be on jandal7 and then him dying somehow makes me mafia? Have you went through that in your head?
Why aren't you voting me then if you think I am responsible for his death? Can you have some sort of consistency to your posting? I mean it's pretty clear that you must be lynched today, but whatever
df_Trek wrote:
@jseadog, you said thers's something to ponder on doc not hearing at quadsas for avoiding jandal's death, what do you think about it?
Maybe the doc thought they were mafia teammates and it was a ploy? Otherwise the doc simply doesn't trust quedsas or want to listen to what he says. Can you blame them? I mean the mafia easily could have thought the doc wouldnt listen to quedsas and therefore jandal was an easy target.
That's exactly what I think too, and quadsas paved perfectly the road for mafia in my pov
df_Trek wrote:
@jseadog, you said thers's something to ponder on doc not hearing at quadsas for avoiding jandal's death, what do you think about it?
Maybe the doc thought they were mafia teammates and it was a ploy? Otherwise the doc simply doesn't trust quedsas or want to listen to what he says. Can you blame them? I mean the mafia easily could have thought the doc wouldnt listen to quedsas and therefore jandal was an easy target.
That's exactly what I think too, and quadsas paved perfectly the road for mafia in my pov
I want to reiterate that it doesn't necessarily mean he is mafia. I still think he is a 'confused townie' who is simply just not playing a good game.
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df_Trek wrote:
@jseadog, you said thers's something to ponder on doc not hearing at quadsas for avoiding jandal's death, what do you think about it?
Maybe the doc thought they were mafia teammates and it was a ploy? Otherwise the doc simply doesn't trust quedsas or want to listen to what he says. Can you blame them? I mean the mafia easily could have thought the doc wouldnt listen to quedsas and therefore jandal was an easy target.
That's exactly what I think too, and quadsas paved perfectly the road for mafia in my pov
I want to reiterate that it doesn't necessarily mean he is mafia. I still think he is a 'confused townie' who is simply just not playing a good game.
Imagine being the guy who says nothing Day 1 and then blames others
Are you saying that me publicly asking doc to be on jandal7 and then him dying somehow makes me mafia?
but maybe this, is more likely. why are you denying that move (jandal call) isn't significant? In this case if you are pro town you need to admit that you are somehow major responsible of his death, you can't hide the dust under the carpet (mafia behavior imo).
quadsas wrote:
Why aren't you voting me then if you think I am responsible for his death?
Because my most likely scenario is: Mafia expected this situation and used it to have an easy lynch on you in day2.
Are you saying that me publicly asking doc to be on jandal7 and then him dying somehow makes me mafia?
but maybe this, is more likely. why are you denying that move (jandal call) isn't significant? In this case if you are pro town you need to admit that you are somehow major responsible of his death, you can't hide the dust under the carpet (mafia behavior imo).
quadsas wrote:
Why aren't you voting me then if you think I am responsible for his death?
Because my most likely scenario is: Mafia expected this situation and used it to have an easy lynch on you in day2.
because it isn't significant is any way. You're trying to spin it so that it makes me seem like I somehow am responsible, but it's quite clear that you're just trying to push me without actually committing to it.
you have an obsession syndrome, I said tons of times I think you are pro-town.
please stop be one-man-show of this game and start to cooperate with the citizens
So sick and tired of his crap. Two innocent townies have died within a day because of this guy mouthing off and doing nothing but disrupt us. So far, it's certainly working. Enough is enough.
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So sick and tired of his crap. Two innocent townies have died within a day because of this guy mouthing off and doing nothing but disrupt us. So far, it's certainly working. Enough is enough.
Since hillis showed up today and talked I am also going to go ahead and switch my vote.
Lynch quadsas
BBL talked and now I want to hear from trekbmc. Please don't start doing what you did the last game. Let's hear what you have to say.
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jseadog1 wrote:
Lynching him for inactivity isnt ideal but what else do we have right now and it really worth the risk?
Do you not have anything at all that you would rather have questioned coming out of day 1's actions (or in some people's cases lack thereof) or theories about the reasoning behind the night kill?
p.s. sorry if that previous post was a little harsh towards you but your posts so far were everything that is wrong with the towns way of thinking so far and that probably should have been aimed at the town as a whole rather than 1 person. Just aiming at 1 person was the best way to try and guarantee a response. Whoever was the first person to post on day 2 to not bring anything useful tot eh table was always going to get that response, it could have been a number of people you were just unlucky to be the first one. That doesn't mean you are any more or less suspicious than anyone else so far in my opinion.
@Quadsas
When I mentioned BBL yesterday you said he would have to give his role the next day or he's going down.
Do you still think this way/ what do you make of him now that both Jandal and Marco have been found town.
You said one of the 3 votes on you is likely mafia, do you still think this about him?
What exactly is your opinion on him?
Apart from df_trek, who else do you consider is leaning mafia right now?
Instead of continuing to argue with df_trek can you use part of the day to try and find other members of the mafia, seeing as there are 3 not just 1.
I've said a few times now I like the intentions behind your posts, but it does feel like you aren't opening up to all the possibilities/ only want to explore one potential avenue at a time.
If you are town like I believe then please can you try to open you questioning onto more people rather than focussing one person at a time as I don't feel there is enough time in the game to be so narrow minded. If you don't do this then you will end up making me change my view on you by being too narrow minded and right now it seems like apart from maybe ryant unless he has changed his mind I am the only one who believes you are pro town.
@town as a whole
Please can we stop trying to lynch Quadsas as he is the only player that has shown any strong signs of being town so far, are we trying to win this game or not?
It feels like a lot of people want leadership but no-one wants to step up and try to provide it, this is the best way to get a mafia led town as everyone just sits back and waits for someone else to make the first move, Quadsas has come in all guns blazing trying to provoke arguments and action and rubbed a lot of you up the wrong way with his style of doing so but so far he is the only one showing any initiative and actually being willing to step up and try to lead us. If you don't want him leading the town and believe he is mafia then please would one of you actually step up and do something yourselves, otherwise we may aswell just gift wrap this game and give it to the mafia right now.
Quadsas is correct in his intentions, even if his execution is pissing off a lot of you, as the more people we have as confirmed town, or as good as confirmed town, the better the odds of lynching a mafia member without losing any townies first to improve those odds.
@ryant
You are the politician, and seeing as you were not counter claimed the only confirmed townie so far.
I'd like to hear your evaluation of the night kill and your thoughts on everyone so far.
Does finding out marco and jandal were both town change any of your previous thoughts?
@Me
My personal opinion is that Quadsas is town, and df_trek's argument with him could just as easily be 2 townie's disagreeing over how to play the game and getting fixated on that as it could be town vs mafia.
Quadsas is the only one I have a strong read on so far, Ryant is clearly confirmed town, anyone who has missed that second statement needs to reread this thread so far before posting again.
There are currently 3 mafia alive, 2 town dead, 7 town alive, 1 alive town is confimed town, so that is 3 mafia alive vs 6 unknown townie's to choose from to lynch.
Every townie apart from Ryant can take themselves out of that equation to make it a 3 vs 5 chance of lynching a mafia member.
Even a random lynch vote has a 37.5% chance of being on a mafia member if conducted by a townie.
Obviously we need to generate enough discussion and pressure on each other to either catch out a mafia member or to effectively guarantee another person as town to increase those odds.
Hopefully this post wakes up the town to start actually doing that rather than dogpiling on the only guy that has taken a risk so far to try and find a mafia member without playing a passive rely on the roles game.
jseadog1 wrote:
Lynching him for inactivity isnt ideal but what else do we have right now and it really worth the risk?
@Quadsas
That is incredible that out of everyone that has posted today, you are the only who actually understands what's going on and isn't completely lost (laughing at you all who voted me, never played a game where people are trying to win?)
- bbl stuff
There's still time, but there's absolutely no way I can get it out of him. As you clearly are at very least, much better player than some here, you know that since town has no killing roles, there's not much I can do here without anyone actually trying to win the game, as you said, I was pretty much the only one doing that. If you'd like, we can pile on bbl and get his role, but there's probably better people to coordinate against instead of him right now.
And things change obviously, I never thought he was evil to be fair, but if you're gonna commit, then commit fully and tell us your role, instead of just defending randoms.
- Apart from df_trek, who else do you consider is leaning mafia right now?
I wouldn't 100% say that df_trek is mafia per say, but he's actively hurting town, and you surely can understand why, and if not I've explained it during marco vote.
And in terms of others, everyone is evil as far as I am concerned except ryant, who is confirmed. you're evil until you claim a role, and then it's up to us decide whether you're lying or not. Not claiming roles is a sign of passive town, and passive town will lose. If anyone wants to come out and fill out the rolelist, you are more than welcome, especially since I highly doubt mafia is gonna be smart enough to counter claim profitably.
And also, the fact that df_trek has not been held accountable for essentially refusing to play the game is absolutely atrocious, not a single person (other than me) addressed his, frankly, insanely stupid logic for not voting. killing him (at this exact point) is easily BPA.
I've said a few times now I like the intentions behind your posts, but it does feel like you aren't opening up to all the possibilities/ only want to explore one potential avenue at a time.
I asked for detective to come out, they refused, so I just went straight in and got a non-random vote (which probably would've been hillis, but that's just pure luck and I'd rather play an actual game). That doesn't mean that I don't have any other ideas in mind, casting a vote early simply sets a stage, and I followed up on the thing I disliked the most that happened on Day 1 (and everyone should hate what df_trek did). And you surely cannot blame me for actually defending myself and establishing a voting block on day 1. All of that could've been avoided had detective came out and the fact that people were actively against it (which is quite ridiculous) made me zero in to build some structure, otherwise, what the fuck are we doing? are we just voting randomly and just going with the flow? That's how you lose
i know you saw what happened at the end of day 1, you were online. I know you said you were busy and all that, but you were there, so that goes out of window. At very least df_trek is visibly trying to hurt town.
Finally a couple of posts that I find logical ones, despite I don't agree the part over me and the role claim, these can be new tracks to follow, and seems you start to cooperate with someone.
I admit that until now I had not a good game, but this is just because I want to stop this vortex with you and everytime I'm trying to reconcile, I found a closed door. I'm not saying you don't have to disagree what I think or criticize my behavior, but you pushed really hard, coming close to insults, and I really don't felt good and free of mind to examinate something else.
That said, I hope this will be a new beginning for the town, that needs a breath of fresh air, with new points to looking for.
First of all, I want to be clear on why I don't find a mass role claim a good idea at this point: in my modest opinion, there are too many townies with no particular role, and it's easy for the mafia to mix between them and still have 7 people claiming for 4 places. If the city fail ti find immediatly the faulty ones, in a couple of days we are in the situation with the town without powerful roles killed during the nights.
What am I going to do now? I want to hear something from TMM and Trekbmc that were online after the new day dawn but wrote nothing.
I hope to see something from ryant despite he clarified his position at my eyes.
Croatia should be start to be active from today as he said, and actually isnt' on line from before day1 finished.
@sammy: I want to specify that I said many times that I'm also thinking quadsas is pro-town.
In my eyes quadsas is being offered up by the Mafia. He is making a lot of noice, arguing and calling people stupid and so on. It's a great tactic by the Mafia, since they are 3 this time around. They offer up 1, and then the other 2 can sit back or at least 1 can argue with him, or vote for him in a lynching. Making it very hard for us to connect the remaning mafia members to him. Then, when he is gone. It's like a bomb went off and we have to start over again. But then, with less townies versus 2 mobsters.
We saw that last game, when a mobster got lynched, and another mobster voted as the second guy in on the vote.
That is also the reason for my lynch vote on quadsas. If he then turns out to be a mobster, we should also look into who voted for him as a potential mafia member.
If he turns out to be pro-town, we at least got rid of a guy who is more hung up on calling other players stupid rather then having a civilized discussion.
