df_Trek: nockout
df_Trek: that he is trying from himself to drive out mafia
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jdog: yes
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df_Trek: If Hillis won't be saved by the doctor we have it in the bag
df_Trek: Because I don't see how knockout will survive next day
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jdog: time to kill hillis
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jdog: Am I good to confirm this with jandal or do you think there is some discussion we need to have? I think its a no brainer
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df_Trek: No no... we don't need any discussion imo
df_Trek: Kill Hillis is best option
df_Trek: If doctor save him let try lynch knockout
df_Trek: That's a likely scenario atp
df_Trek: And then we close it next night
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jdog: agreed, done
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jdog: unless knockout is the doctor and he claims to be the dr. I think in that case you should also come out and say you are the doctor because people will believe you more than him
df_Trek: We will see If that's the case
df_Trek: Because this bring me to be pointed 100% mafia by him
df_Trek: Ok everyone is on my side probably
df_Trek: But it's risky
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jdog: yes but if he does it will people believe him?
df_Trek: Hear Muriel idea
df_Trek: Hear my idea
df_Trek: If he is saved
df_Trek: You have to do doctor call
df_Trek: And try to lynch the other who call...the real one
df_Trek: If none is trusting you
df_Trek: You can bomb the real one
df_Trek: And I'm still clean with good trust among city
df_Trek: Tell me what do you think about?
df_Trek: For my plan is important you call first
df_Trek: Imo is better considered by townie the first one
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jdog: I like that idea actually... I will post and say we need to know who the doctor is so that we can have 2 confirmed townies
jdog: but if I bomb the "real doctor" why would people trust you still?
jdog: or are you not going to come forward in that case?
df_Trek: No no
df_Trek: You have to say you are the doctor
df_Trek: If city believes you more than real one we win
df_Trek: If not you bomb the real one
df_Trek: Did you understand now?
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jdog: Oh yeah I understand what you are saying. You want me to claim first?
jdog: and then the real one will come forward and we fight about who is right and who is wrong
jdog: but if I get 3 votes I am out. You wont vote for me right?
df_Trek: Imo the first has more trust..don't you think?
jdog: could be a scum mafia move though also
jdog: Lets hope that isnt the case lol
df_Trek: Actually not
df_Trek: Ahaha
jdog: what do you mean actually not
df_Trek: Maybe you have to bomb before you are done
jdog: why would I do that
df_Trek: Actually not I don't lynch you
jdog: I still think sammy was doc
jdog: what if it was trek ahahaha
df_Trek: You do that just in case city seems not trust in you...But before there are already some votes
df_Trek: But let see
jdog: yes
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df_Trek: Just some thoughts before going to sleep
df_Trek: My idea born when knockout said he will defend himself on day 5
df_Trek: I was wondering why...and maybe he has a plan to be called townie
df_Trek: He point Hillis like very important and put highlight on him, that's also only one 100% townie
df_Trek: How? Whit the story of 3vs2 which every citizen has to follow his vote
df_Trek: So encourage mafia to night Kill him...
df_Trek: He is the doctor and save him, and with a surprise call on day 5 he is safe
df_Trek: Because everyone at this point vote for him can be called as mafia
df_Trek: That's the reason why there still be possible he is the doctor
df_Trek: But if you call doctor role before him maybe city will trust more you
df_Trek: Also because knockout has not already good reputation
df_Trek: So, if this is his plan we can use it against him
df_Trek: Or...If Hillis isn't saved, I can't see Croatia not voting for knockout, and plus our vote he is down
df_Trek: Just hope for last easy game over
df_Trek: Only a thing that is not very good...with the scenario that Hillis is saved
df_Trek: Jandal will start the day at 8am here, thats 3 am at your place
df_Trek: And knockout was quite active during early mornings
df_Trek: So won't be easy for you to anticipate him
df_Trek: And at last...i hope the doctor isn't Croatia...Or there will be troubles
df_Trek: He is our best ally
df_Trek: After being so garrulous....good night
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jdog: yeah I won't be on until morning
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df_Trek: Wair
df_Trek: Wait wait wait
df_Trek: Don't ca
df_Trek: Call
df_Trek: Doctor I mean
df_Trek: At this point imo you have to bomb anyway knockout
df_Trek: But best idea is almost at the end of the day
df_Trek: But tell me if is ok...now I have to point you and kandes
df_Trek: Voting for him
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jandal: Guys a friendly reminder in the spirit of the game
jandal: not sure if I read your plans wrong but if there is a bomb/gunshot etc. at the end of the day the deadline is extended
df_Trek: Ah ok ok...didn't realized
df_Trek: But ok
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jdog: who will we vote out the next night though!?
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jdog: if we can get rid of someone today and make the correct kill tonight. me and u can jump on someone tomorrow asap and win this
jdog: here's me plan. convince everyone to kill Croatia or kandes.. then we kill the other at night. we wait until morning and make sure we are on at the same time. we get p.m. am
jdog: we get on and lynch knockout at same timeand we win
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jdog: whatever you do just convince them that the other should go home first not me
df_Trek: I'm already pointing at him
df_Trek: I'll vote for him
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jdog: for which one? kandes?
jdog: same here but not immediately after you
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jdog: can't believe it was knock out... worst scenario
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df_Trek: Yes for kandes
df_Trek: Surely the worst scenario damn
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jdog: let me know what I should post for what hillis said and why
jdog: I'm kind of stuck with what to say
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df_Trek: Mmmh
df_Trek: Imo we need to post something on different people...But atp I'm obviously on kandes...the only other one is Croatia
df_Trek: Or you can wait for someone else and look who is pointing
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jdog: yeah I'll do that. can you think of something for me to say if I point at croatia
df_Trek: As far as you remember, don't you have any previous point against him?
df_Trek: Can't you find anything in your post #305 to build up some statements against Croatia?
df_Trek: You said if knockout and trek will be found townie he is in bad situation
df_Trek: Don't you have some reasons to add for making a good post against him?
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jdog: I'm not sure I posted something small for now
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jdog: I'm not a target by anyone right now which is very very good
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df_Trek: Now your are quite out of suspicion...very good situation
df_Trek: And seems who's pointing at me going more to my potential partner
df_Trek: Only problem can be who kill during the night if we get the day over
df_Trek: Because we can't use the bomb with you so out of suspects
df_Trek: To eliminate the doctor
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jdog: we kill the other townie and then team up real quick within the first minute to get 2 votes
jdog: so we kill kandes now and Croatia at night
jdog: then within first minute tomorrow we lynch knockout and win
jdog: if it's 2v2 don't we automatically win?
jdog: make sure you don't get people to vote me first though that will be big trouble
jdog: jandal answer that one. if it's 2v2 do we won automatically?
df_Trek: Yes 2vs2 we win
df_Trek: If we get correct lynch this day we just need to kill the right one
df_Trek: Imo you are out of radar btw
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jdog: why you putting blame on me!!! thanks hillis sticking up for me!
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jdog: MAFIA RUNS THIS MF TOWN I DID IT FOR AQUARIUS
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jdog: Made a hopeful convincing post to end the night. We need to get kandes lynched. Then its 3 on 2. knockout will likely save himself or hillis possibly even me. No way he saves Croatia. If he does we deserve to lose. We will lynch Croatia at night and hopefully that gets us the win
df_Trek: I couldn't go against Croatia after my long term behaviour, but I was still on this line because I found everyone trust in you
df_Trek: Now last Croatia post is very very bad
df_Trek: And I have a kind of pretext to change my mind
df_Trek: I'm sorry if you felt in danger but imo we are going well
df_Trek: Your posts are good at my eyes
df_Trek: Now I'm putting a kind of pressure on Croatia
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jdog: I was just joking with you as long as you guys don't pick me... we need Croatia or kandes
df_Trek: Hillis on Croatia!!
df_Trek: This can be a real good point
df_Trek: Jandal...isn't a win for mafia if tonight a townie die after Croatia lynch?
df_Trek: I can't understand knockout statements to follow jseadog
df_Trek: If someone else die we are 2vs2 already
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jdog: why did he say if they both die? how can they both die overnight
jdog: we lynch kandes
jdog: we win
df_Trek: If he is not saved
jdog: if he isn't saved then one would still live though right
df_Trek: If he is saved we lose
jdog: if kandes is saved we lose
df_Trek: Because they know Hillis knockout kandes be town
df_Trek: So we have to lynch Hillis or knockout
jdog: yeah but I'll bomb knockout right away and he wont be able to say who he saved
jdog: I think we need to lynch kandes. knockout isn't saving him
df_Trek: Maybe to risky btw
df_Trek: Yesterday he posted right 20 after beginning of the day
jdog: it's a 50 50 risk to try and lynch hillis or knockout
jdog: I'll be on the very minute next time If I can get the math figured out
df_Trek: Do you think knockout is saving you?
jdog: yes or himself
df_Trek: That's quite likely
jdog: so we have go kandes and I'll be on to bomb him if kandes is saved then its up to you
jdog: let's get clarification if we automatically win from jandal
df_Trek: That's can be an idea
jdog: if we don't we need to get on at the same time tomorrow at the start of the day and lynch knockout
df_Trek: Yes let wait his reply
jdog: should I message him on daily?
df_Trek: We can wait a bit
df_Trek: Actually we gave 28 hours for that
jdog: I don't understand knockouts message....
df_Trek: Have*
jdog: if me and hillis both die trust jdog... how can they both die
df_Trek: Me too...doesn't really make sense
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df_Trek: Maybe for an early bomb
jdog: jandal is here!!!
jdog: help us
jandal: sup
df_Trek: Yeeee jandal
jdog: if we lynch do we win
jdog: its 2 on 2 then
jandal: you win if at any point the ratio is equal
jdog: yeah so what time tomorrow and time zone does the night end?
jdog: roughly?
jdog: I want be ensure I'm online
df_Trek: So if we kill someone is automatically win without day starting right?
jandal: yes
df_Trek: Ok
df_Trek: Thanks
jdog: trek u wanna pull trigger on kandes?
df_Trek: It can be ok for now
jdog: jandal take out kandes. please let me know what time and time zone we are scheduled to keep going
df_Trek: If we won't have better idea let's go with kandes
df_Trek: I just hope at this point knockout thinks I'm mafia with kandes
jandal: we continue at approx 7pm gmt tomorrow
jandal: in reality around 9pm when I wake up ????
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jdog: you sleep all day wtf Haha
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df_Trek: ahahah
df_Trek: I thought on why knockout told to follow you if he and hillis will die
df_Trek: imo he was refering to the case Croatia was the terrorist
df_Trek: so:
df_Trek: croatia -> bomb knockout
df_Trek: mafia-> kill hillis during the night with no chance to be saved
df_Trek: results is still alive you me and kandes
df_Trek: and he told to me and kandes on who of us was townie to follow your vote as townie member for him
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jdog: hoping he posts closer to 9pm. I'll be home I think that's 5pm est right? or 6?
df_Trek: should be 5pm est
jdog: awesome
df_Trek: btw if knockout hasn't a brillant idea to save me or kandes we win
df_Trek: and there still a 50/50 possibility
df_Trek: but if he donesn't want to risk to much he has to save one between him hillis or you
df_Trek: (following at his reasoning)
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jdog: I'll be online at 3pm when he claims it starts up again and will try to be at 5 again.
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jdog: The only reason I need to be online is if kandes is saved. If kandes is saved and I can bomb knockout fast enough you have to convince everyone that knockout must have saved you
jdog: which by everyone I mean hillis ahaha
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Aquarius97: Are you sure you want to risk the game into who is faster at noticing the thread up for Knockout to say who he saved or jdog to bomb knockout?
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jdog: Yes because imo he definitely is saving himself or hillis.. why would he save kandes?
jdog: The only ones we can lynch are knockout, hillis, or kandes
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df_Trek: imo knockout will save you jseadog
df_Trek: if that's the (worst) case, but you'll be faster than him I'll push for him saving you
df_Trek: and I'm pointing on my early theory of you and kandes being mafia
df_Trek: actually jseadog needs a very quick post
df_Trek: ???? bomb knockout
df_Trek: but I'm hoping everything is already done
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jdog: If he saved me why would I use a bomb
df_Trek: no no, we don't need you bomb him, we already win
df_Trek: I was refering to the worst case where knockout save kandes
jdog: let's hope so! I wish jandal would have stuck with a time so I could have known to be on
df_Trek: eheh lets hope
df_Trek: knockout is in/out many times already from the site
jdog: Yeah I noticed that
jdog: We still did good for making it the whole game with just us 2
df_Trek: yes, good game, we were very luckless with aquarius lynched on first day for a buggy post
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jdog: I think I jumped on him early enough to be ok
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jdog: just waiting impatiently ????
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df_Trek: Knockout is always in ????
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jdog: no he was off for like an hour but just came back recently
df_Trek: Ah ok ok
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jdog: still here waiting
df_Trek: I'm refreshing every minute
jdog: I'm refreshing jandal every few to see if he's online yet
df_Trek: It's really stressful
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jdog: unless my calculations are off jandal was way off on when he said it would start up again.
df_Trek: Yes...by mine too
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jdog: still here
df_Trek: Until what hour can you stay on?
jdog: I'll be on about 5 more hours
jdog: 11pm EST
df_Trek: Hopefully is enough ????
jdog: It should be I am dedicated I want to win. everyone is so dumb for thinking I was town this whole time. Did I really play that good of a game
df_Trek: I think yes
df_Trek: Imo we were very good on misleading and on night kills
df_Trek: Moreover there were townies like ryant and Ian that played very bad
jdog: I was going to say last night we should kill knockout not killis but decided not to.. would have been a better move
jdog: knockout hasnt been on in 2 hours. I think it is night where he is now
df_Trek: Where is from?
df_Trek: Germany maybe?
jdog: I believe yes
df_Trek: It's 00.24 my same
jdog: so just past midnight
jdog: you will be going to sleep soon?
df_Trek: No no
df_Trek: I'm used to go to bed late
df_Trek: This week I'm off at work
jdog: good stuff
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jdog: Lets win this for AQUARIUS
df_Trek: ????????
df_Trek: I spent last 4 weeks absconding...meticulous on every single detail, let's get this over...
df_Trek: I have to say if we don't get it I'll be really disappointed
df_Trek: Because I'm sure we worked as better we could
df_Trek: Aquarius included
jdog: if he really saved kandes we deserve to lose
df_Trek: Ahaha
df_Trek: That's would be a fuking genius move
jdog: exactly thats what I mean he deserves to win for that
df_Trek: But actually doing that should mean he think you are mafia
df_Trek: There's no clever reason anyway
df_Trek: And I didn't feel like he shifted idea about you
jdog: Yeah but once he saw croatia died he had time to go do some more investigating
jdog: btw if you notice jandal online let me know
df_Trek: Yes
jdog: you think you could persuade hillis to vote kandes instead of you... I did say he was my #1 target
df_Trek: Mmmh that's can complicate things
df_Trek: But I have to try
jdog: exactly... you can argue that I said mafia usually expose their partner to blend in
df_Trek: Yes, exactly what I thought
df_Trek: Btw wasn't Hillis pointing more at kandes than me?
jdog: yes
df_Trek: That's at least a good starting point
jdog: hopefully it doesnt come to that
jdog: where is jandal from? he was talking about sleeping
df_Trek: Along the game Hillis was very loath to change his ideas
df_Trek: I don't know
df_Trek: I know none of the forum in real life
jdog: me either I used to know NTTHRASH but he went away
df_Trek: Just some information here and there found somewhere in forum
df_Trek: I think Hillis is Norwegian
df_Trek: So is 1am also for him
df_Trek: No idea about kandes
df_Trek: Ntthrash
df_Trek: Never heard him
jdog: before your time ahaha
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jdog: HES ONLINE
jdog: start the refresh
jdog: GO KILL KANDES
df_Trek: I don't see him
jdog: go look at when he was online and he is in this chat. I'm tracking him hardcore
df_Trek: Ah yes, he is here
df_Trek: Last visit 5 minutes ago
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jdog: LETS GOOOOOOO WE WIN
jdog: who did he try and save jandal?
jandal: df ????
jandal: congrats guys ????
jdog: haha I knew he was gonna try and save one of us 3
jandal: and sorry for the delay, overslept
df_Trek: YES
jdog: what country u in
df_Trek: Ahahah
jandal: New Zealand
df_Trek: Lol
jdog: change title to "MAFIA RULES THIS PLACE"
jandal: it's 11:36 here
df_Trek: We are in 3 so much different hours
jandal: I'll change it once everyone has seen the result
jdog: cool stuff thanks for hosting.
jdog: shocked we won tbh
df_Trek: Good morning btw ????????????
df_Trek: At day 2 I was very pessimistic
df_Trek: But from there we were going better and better
jdog: knockout will never trust me in this game again
jdog: I never said I was townie though
df_Trek: Ahahah
jandal: go brag in the thread now ????
jandal: congrats again
jdog: I will haha
jdog: wtf is the godfather anyway
df_Trek: I have ready an image I'll post later
df_Trek: Ahahah
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df_Trek: Incredible knockout made the crazy move
df_Trek: Luckily saved me and not kandes
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jdog: you going to rep us at mafia championships?
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df_Trek: mmmh I don't think so,
df_Trek: you can go imo,
df_Trek: I'll write it on the forum now
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