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| Ulrich Ulriksen |
Posted on 16-09-2018 21:13
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When are the effects of aging applied? If we sign a 34 YO is the values in the Pre DB what we get or could he lose points during the season or before the season starts? |
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| dominox |
Posted on 16-09-2018 21:24
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After the season, when development file is up. We are now "before the season" as development is already behind us and we are during steals. |
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Posted on 22-11-2024 09:35
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| df_Trek |
Posted on 18-09-2018 10:39
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So, when is deadline for steals?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-09-2018 10:48
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I will send it probably tonight. Sorry I had no time on my hands for it until now & also want to think about steal attempts hm *cough*
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| jaxika |
Posted on 18-09-2018 11:08
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It was yesterday... |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 18-09-2018 11:13
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@Ripley: Monday was just copy/pasted from last season, you'll probably get a little more time
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| Bikex |
Posted on 18-09-2018 22:40
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Sorry about the confusion, please send in your steals and blocks within the next 20 hours. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 19-09-2018 15:09
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Still haven't gotten a message from quite a lot of teams, please let me know if you want to do steals/blocks if you haven't done so yet. |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 19-09-2018 15:13
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Had it done from some days ago, forgot to send it 
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| dominox |
Posted on 19-09-2018 15:25
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Done it. No steals from me |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-09-2018 15:51
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Renewals
Download: https://www.mediafire.com/file/3zbedb6....xlsx/file
This is how the renewals work: A rider demands a certain wage of you. You can then decide whether you want to accept that wage and re-sign him for the next season, don't prolong his contract or wait. You have three chances to make an offer before the negotiations end.
How does the file work:
1 Put in C3 your team ID. If you forgot it, check it in table "teams".
2 In column H the riders current wage is listed in row I the minimum wage that has to be paid. In column K you see the demand of the rider. In the cell on the left of that you usually see a 0. There are three possible exceptions. If there is a "!!!" then you have to agree to the riders demand in your first offer as he is in a danger of a steal. If you don't agree then your rider will leave for another team. Is there only one exclamation mark then also a team is interested in a steal but the offer of that team is not good enough for the rider to accept right away. If that's the case you can do the negotiations as usual. Just when the negotiations fail, the rider will consider again to go to the team that attempted the steal. If there is "IN" written then that rider is already on your team next season as you contracted him through scouting. A "B" indicates that you have blocked that rider for steals.
3 In N you make your first offers. If you agree to the wage the rider wants just write it there. If you want to make an offer with a lower wage than put in there how much you offer instead. If you want the rider to leave the team put a 0. If you want to wait with negotiations to a later round put a "W" in there.
4 In row 2 you see how much budget you'd have left with your offers.
5 If you made your offers go to "PM" copy for round 1 cells B-C and send them to me in a table. In round 2 you will send me F-G and in round 3 J-K.
6 After sending me a pm you will get an answer from me asap with the riders reactions. Go to "Renewals" sort the riders after their ID and put the list you get into row R for round 1, for round 2 that'd be row S and for round 3 row T. If a rider is out the list will tell you "OUT", if the rider agrees to your offer it will say "IN". If you didn't reach the min wage he'd accept you will either get 1,2 or 3 +. If it's only one the lowest wage he'd accept is within 50. If there are 2 then it is between 50 and 100 and with three + it is more than 100 away.
7 If you get +s back then you can continue negotiations in column O (round 2) and column P (round 3). If you get back an "IN" or "OUT" then you can't continue negotiations as you already came to an agreement with the rider.
8 If you didn't come to an agreement with the rider after 3 rounds then he'll leave the team.
9 You are not allowed to be over your budget after Renewals.
Mediator
Some Teams have put some money in last season's research into mediator. In the spoiler below you can see how much. With each mediator unit you can lower the minimum a rider would accept by 5-15 (One unit costed 10). Just tell me when sending in the first renewals round on which rider(s) you want to spend your mediator. You can't use mediator on riders that have a steal attempt on themselves and also can't go below the minimum wage of that rider with that.
Spoiler | Team | Units | | (Bunzl - Centrica | 10) | | (Wiggle | 10) | | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | 2 | | Suntory Lucozade Sport | 4 | | Lufthansa Racing Team | 2 | | Aviva Cycling Team | 6 | | Wilier Triestina | 4 | | Liberty Seguros | 11 | | Statoil Pro Cycling Team | 10 |
I hope everyone understands how it works.
If you want, you can wait after the first round of renewals, so I can tell you if your steal attempts went through, so you can calculate better with your budget. If you wish to wait please tell me that in your PM.
Because of that, I hope to get the first round of renewals within 24 hours, maximum you have 48 for the first round.
If you wish to make the renewals via dropbox, it's also possible, I did that last season also with some already. Some already have a shared dropbox folder with me, others would need to tell me their email.
New teams don't have to do anything in this round, obviously, FA signing will start directly after renewals. |
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 20-09-2018 16:38
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Any chance for mobile-friendly version as my Polaris Office app is struggling?
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| knockout |
Posted on 20-09-2018 16:51
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Can we see a list of steal attempts on riders that were blocked? 
A Big Thank You To All MG Reporters! |
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| dominox |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:05
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I made a mistake with one rider that I wanted to be blocked, wrong ID. Yet I'm happy I didn't do that. I would have to pay way more than I was expecting xD
To anyone who tried to steal Ulissi:
Spoiler Diego stays in CCC, sorry mate 
Tho, CCC will be the weakest team EVER in WT. Unless some riders will deliver (which is unlikely), or with the amount of money I have I'll be able to do something on free agent market - most unlikely... |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:13
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Okay, which idiots are trying to steal Hirt? Sod off... Even being the most friendly team, staying out of anyone's business I get to deal with this shit? Awesome.
Well, I'll make sure your plans will fail, aggressive teams. 
Manager of Team Popo4Ever p/b Morshynska in the PCM.Daily Man-Game |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:19
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dominox wrote:
I made a mistake with one rider that I wanted to be blocked, wrong ID. Yet I'm happy I didn't do that. I would have to pay way more than I was expecting xD
To anyone who tried to steal Ulissi:
Spoiler Diego stays in CCC, sorry mate
Tho, CCC will be the weakest team EVER in WT. Unless some riders will deliver (which is unlikely), or with the amount of money I have I'll be able to do something on free agent market - most unlikely...
Go apeshit crazy on training?
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Bikex |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:20
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knockout wrote:
Can we see a list of steal attempts on riders that were blocked?
All steal attempts in spoiler
Spoiler | Rider | Team | Bid | | Alberto Contador | CarbonSports - Lightweight | 1560 | | Alexander Kristoff | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 640 | | Anthony Spencer | Santos - Euskadi | 100 | | Arman Kamyshev | Italo | 400 | | Arnaud Demare | Team Alitalia | 1500 | | Christian Bertilsson | Aviva Cycling Team | 190 | | Ciriaco Guirado | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 300 | | Davide Albini | Santos - Euskadi | 765 | | Diego Ulissi | CCC Sprandi Polkowice | 650 | | Dieter Bouvry | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | 550 | | Dima Polyakov | Italo | 110 | | Dustin Browne | Cool Runnings | 140 | | Eduardo Gonzalez | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | 400 | | Edvald Boasson Hagen | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | 560 | | Elia Favilli | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 350 | | Fabio Aru | Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini | 2150 | | Fabio Aru | Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini | 1250 | | Florian Senechal | CarbonSports - Lightweight | 1100 | | Fredrik Galta | Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor | 350 | | Fulvio Spagnoli | SAP - Bianchi | 1000 | | Fulvio Spagnoli | SAP - Bianchi | 765 | | Fulvio Spagnoli | SAP - Bianchi | 425 | | Giovanni Pizzi | SAP - Bianchi | 280 | | Jan Ghyselinck | Italo | 420 | | Jan Hirt | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | 700 | | Jan Hirt | VisitUkraine p/b Nemiroff | 450 | | Jarlinson Pantano | Wilier Triestina | 330 | | Jens Debusschere | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 380 | | Jesús Herrada | Liberty Seguros | 1250 | | Jesús Herrada | Liberty Seguros | 1100 | | Jonas Ahlstrand | Polestar ProCycling p/b Telenor | 370 | | Jonathan Peiffer | CarbonSports - Lightweight | 330 | | Joshua Atkins | Santos - Euskadi | 250 | | Lachlan Morton | CCC Sprandi Polkowice | 280 | | Mark Cavendish | Suntory Lucozade Sport | 950 | | Mathieu Van der Poel | Liberty Seguros | 800 | | Mathieu Van der Poel | Liberty Seguros | 700 | | Mathieu Van der Poel | Liberty Seguros | 480 | | Michael Matthews | Suntory Lucozade Sport | 450 | | Michał Kwiatkowski | SAP - Bianchi | 1500 | | Michał Kwiatkowski | SAP - Bianchi | 1410 | | Mikel Landa | Shell Pro Cycling | 500 | | Mitchell Docker | Vittel - Havas Communications | 110 | | Nikias Arndt | Lufthansa | 300 | | Paolo Colombo | Ceramica Panaria - Autogrill - Cipollini | 650 | | Pat Edwards | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 100 | | Paul Lang | Credit Suisse | 300 | | Pawel Poljanski | CCC Sprandi Polkowice | 300 | | Petr Vakoc | Vittel - Havas Communications | 450 | | Pierre Rolland | Équipe Cycliste Peugeot | 800 | | Rafal Majka | Santos - Euskadi | 1360 | | Richie Porte | Lufthansa | 410 | | Romain Bardet | Suntory Lucozade Sport | 1250 | | Romain Bardet | Suntory Lucozade Sport | 1200 | | Sébastien Hochart | Équipe Cycliste Peugeot | 165 | | Tim Wellens | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | 750 | | Vegard Stake Laengen | Vegeta Cycling Team | 350 | | Walenty Kuranty | Vegeta Cycling Team | 110 | | Walter Salmon | Allianz - BMW Cycling Team | 250 | | Wilco Kelderman | Grupo Argos - Quala | 590 |
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| dominox |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:41
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Shonak wrote:
dominox wrote:
I made a mistake with one rider that I wanted to be blocked, wrong ID. Yet I'm happy I didn't do that. I would have to pay way more than I was expecting xD
To anyone who tried to steal Ulissi:
Spoiler Diego stays in CCC, sorry mate
Tho, CCC will be the weakest team EVER in WT. Unless some riders will deliver (which is unlikely), or with the amount of money I have I'll be able to do something on free agent market - most unlikely...
Go apeshit crazy on training?
With all best riders being almost at their max except Komisarek? Yeah, that will change my team drastically 
Still need to sign at least 9 riders. If you would know my budget... Man, FA will be a real challenge |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:42
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I was outbid on one of my three steal attempts, but I'm not unhappy about that.
To the person who is interested in Bertilsson: Maybe we can talk during transfers, but for now he's staying, I need to increase my squad size.
Come on, dominox, there are great riders on the FA market already and more will follow, I'm sure. Some of the top teams cannot hold onto every rider.
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| dominox |
Posted on 20-09-2018 17:49
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Ripley wrote:
Come on, dominox, there are great riders on the FA market already and more will follow, I'm sure. Some of the top teams cannot hold onto every rider.
Yeah, I have a list of 15 names that I'm interested in. But if top names will fail to join... |
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