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[PT/PCT] PTHC Band Choices
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-07-2018 12:27
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I am not asking for the outcome to be revealed, only if a band is filled with first choices, so that teams coming after don't risk choosing a goal race in which they can not participate.
You yourself said such an FCFS system is not really ideal, letting people know when a band is full would prevent someone being completely screwed by it.
I expect to get my first choice, but it is not totally unlikely half the teams have the same first choice. |
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 15-07-2018 12:31
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But that would really not be fair to people who already chose their goals and could potentially have missed out on the band where they had a goal.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-07-2018 12:54
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alexkr00 wrote:
But that would really not be fair to people who already chose their goals and could potentially have missed out on the band where they had a goal.
Then they should be able to change their goal race imo. I think it just should be avoided that someone doesn't participate in a goal race due to the selecting system. |
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 15-07-2018 13:02
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Bikex wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
But that would really not be fair to people who already chose their goals and could potentially have missed out on the band where they had a goal.
Then they should be able to change their goal race imo. I think it just should be avoided that someone doesn't participate in a goal race due to the selecting system.
I could of course be very wrong but I'm quite sure that you'd be able to change any goal that would be associated with a race you are no longer participating in?
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| jph27 |
Posted on 15-07-2018 15:27
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Luis Leon Sanchez wrote:
Bikex wrote:
alexkr00 wrote:
But that would really not be fair to people who already chose their goals and could potentially have missed out on the band where they had a goal.
Then they should be able to change their goal race imo. I think it just should be avoided that someone doesn't participate in a goal race due to the selecting system.
I could of course be very wrong but I'm quite sure that you'd be able to change any goal that would be associated with a race you are no longer participating in?
Not quite - you can however choose two races of identical cost and then decide which to use as your goal post-transfers. So in this case, choosing a race in your first choice band and then using the "or" option on a race in your second choice band to avoid any potential issues. |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 19-07-2018 10:49
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Results are now in.
There was an interesting combination of choices this year:
| Pick 1 | Pick 2 | Pick 3 | Pick 4 | | Band 1 | 8 | 17 | 17 | 6 | | Band 2 | 16 | 7 | 12 | 12 | | Band 3 | 12 | 5 | 7 | 24 | | Band 4 | 12 | 19 | 12 | 5 |
No danger of any team missing their first choice, with 8/16/12/12 distribution of top choices across bands.
Band 1 mainly featuring as a 2nd and 3rd choice; Band 2 more consistent and the most popular top choice. Band 3 the most extreme, plenty making it their 1st choice, but then half of all teams placing the band last! Band 4 then the most popular, with 31 teams placing it in their Top 2 choices.
While theoretically it would have been possible for all teams to receive at worst their 3rd choice, this was not possible following the guidelines of "If a choice is over subscribed, then the earliest PMs will get it." Hence, it is the case that some of the later returners do receive their 4th choice, unfortunately.
There are 37 teams with their top two choices, 7 with their first and third choice, and 4 with their first and fourth choice.
| Band 1 | | Band 2 | | Ayubowan! | | Air France - KLM | | Azteca-NBCSN | | Aker-MOT | | Bennelong - Mitchelton | | Ayubowan! | | Berg Cycles | | Azteca-NBCSN | | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | Carlsberg - Danske Bank | | cycleYorkshire | | Carrefour - ESPN | | eBuddy | | Desigual | | Evonik - ELKO | | eBuddy | | Fablok - Bank BGZ | | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Festina - Dexia | | Kulczyk - DMTEX | | Hugo Boss | | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Minions | | Minions | | Moser - Sygic | | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Nordstrom - BioWare | | Novatek-Panarmenian.net | | Podium Ambition | | Philips - Continental | | RBC Pro Cycling | | Porto-Prio | | Repsol - Netflix | | Repsol - Netflix | | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | SPAR - Shimano - SCG | | Team Tinkoff | | Team Puma - SAP | | Team UBS | | Team Reddit | | T-Mobile | | Volvo acc. by Spotify | | Volvo acc. by Spotify | | World Cycling Centre | | World Cycling Centre | | Xero Racing p/b Octagon | | Xero Racing p/b Octagon | | Band 3 | | Band 4 | | Aegon - Lavazza | | Aegon - Lavazza | | Air France - KLM | | Aker-MOT | | Berg Cycles | | Bennelong - Mitchelton | | Carrefour - ESPN | | Desigual | | cycleYorkshire | | EA Vesuvio | | EA Vesuvio | | Euskaltel - Elior | | Euskaltel - Elior | | Evonik - ELKO | | Fablok - Bank BGZ | | Gazelle | | Festina - Dexia | | Generali - EDF | | Gazelle | | Grieg-Eftel | | Generali - EDF | | Isostar - Slovenje | | Grieg-Eftel | | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Hugo Boss | | Kulczyk - DMTEX | | Iberia - Team Degenkolb | | Lierse SK - Pizza Ullo PCTeam | | Indosat Ooredoo - ANZ | | Meiji - JR East | | Isostar - Slovenje | | Moser - Sygic | | Kraftwerk Man Machine | | Netia - Vónin | | Meiji - JR East | | Novatek-Panarmenian.net | | Netia - Vónin | | Philips - Continental | | Porto-Prio | | Podium Ambition | | RBC Pro Cycling | | Team Popo4Ever p/b Nemiroff | | SPAR - Shimano - SCG | | Team Reddit | | Team Puma - SAP | | Team UBS | | Team Tinkoff | | T-Mobile |
For those who did make Band 3 their last choice, it would be helpful if you could PM me to explain why - as feedback to consider when designing the bands for 2019.
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 19-07-2018 10:53
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YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY first two bands 
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT]  Xero Racing
5x  x5
2x  x2
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| Booker |
Posted on 19-07-2018 10:56
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Same 
Happy at this point in the day - let's see if by 00:00 on the 20th, I'll be feeling the same type of way
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| fintas |
Posted on 19-07-2018 10:58
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First two bands for me also...
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| sgdanny |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:07
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Damn it didn't get my preferred choices. Though don't understand why Band 3 was so resented, as it was even my first pick
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| Vien |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:17
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Happy to get my first 2 bands. Now I need to sign the riders that suit them  |
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| fjhoekie |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:24
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First 2 for me as well. Great to have cobbled races, am sure Pluchkin will like them.
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| tsmoha |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:25
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Thanks for the list, SN. So we have another shot at Pais Vasco then 
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| Scorchio |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:31
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Very happy to get my preferred top two choices (bands 1 + 2). Cool that can see will lead to some quite varied start lists with different combos of PT/PCT teams in each. Commiserations if you didn't get your preferred choices this time around.
Obviously a tremendous amount of work has been going on behind the scenes the last few weeks bringing us towards this evening's 8pm starting bell. Thanks to all that have contributed.
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:38
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First and third band not too bad
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| Marcovdw |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:56
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First and second band for me yay!
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 19-07-2018 11:58
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Top2 choices for me too. Band 1 was great to have with a Goal there, and Band 2 might allow me to go for a different approach in transfers if my prime targets can't be secured
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| SotD |
Posted on 19-07-2018 13:03
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Got what I came for. Can't be unhappy with that, although it doesn't really matter looking at how many changes I have to make.
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 19-07-2018 17:18
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So if I didn't get the band of one of my goals then I'm just screwed for that goal right?
oof definitely should have done the flexible goal but oh well |
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| maxime86 |
Posted on 19-07-2018 17:18
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So if I didn't get the band of one of my goals then I'm just screwed for that goal right?
oof definitely should have done the flexible goal but oh well |
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