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Course de Solidarnosc Discussion
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Course de Solidarnosc
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Quite a young race on the MG schedule, the Course de Solidarnosc through Poland goes into it's second edition after being part of the PCT calendar last season: Jonas Ahlstrand as the first ever winner of the stage race, with Maxime Vantomme and Ivano Lo Cicero completing last year's final podium. Four flat stages, four mass sprint decisions last season. It ain't the easiest profiles though:

Three of the four stages are at least 220km long, so pure sprinters with less strong roleur skills and stamina may well suffer from the long days here. It should become an interesting race with a few top sprinters (like Haller and Salleh) not taking part and racing the Herald Sun Tour instead.

The Startlist
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The Sprinters
FavoritesFLSTASPACOutsidersFLSTASPAC
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/teb.png Nizzolo73708079pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/esc.png Thorsen61638285
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/wcc.png Castañeda71718079pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/red.png Kip69678082
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/red.png Croket74747971pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/wcc.png Lay73687981
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kul.png Havik73747976pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kul.png Bennett71747979
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/lse.png Vanderaerden72717975pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kul.png Hochmann70667980
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/wpb.png Haussler72717975pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/spr.png Awang64677983
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bcp.png Vingerling71727979pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/phc.png Bogdanovics73747877
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/phc.png Krieger71717979pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/bcp.png Jones72667878
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/yor.png Thwaites73747876pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/san.png Andriato71727876
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/prx.png Brus71747878pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ioc.png Bar77757776


So in fact, we only have four 80+ sprinters attending here - with Kip and particularly Thorsen likely to suffer from the length of the stages though. Top favorites should be Nizzolo and Castaneda, who finished 11th in a stronger PCT field last season. He also has a great final leadout rider with Lay.

Several possible threats in this close field though: Kulczyk with a special race and Havik/Bennett make for a great duo - with also Hochmann as a strong leadout if he doesn't suffer from the length of those stages. Vanderaerden, Haussler, Vingerling and Krieger on a similar level, even though some of the better sprinters lack the acceleration - like Croket, Vanderaerden, Haussler or Thwaites.

Brus as another possible contender and the same definitely should count for Bar, who's by far the strongest roleur (with also the best stamina) amongst all sprinters. Surely a dark horse, even though if he lacks the real speed.

The Others
RoleursFLHISTASPPuncheursFLHISTASP
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ioc.png Bar77707577pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/0r8.png Roux74787857
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrc.png Gilbert76767464pcmdaily.com/files/Micros16/avc.png Grippo63777266
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/csd.png Verbist76637357pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/red.png Simon71767572
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gnr.png Smukulis75727772pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/hrc.png Gilbert76767464
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/0r8.png Vandenbergh75667461pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/and.png Passalacqua63767162
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ioc.png Bouet75677367pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/spr.png Wahyudi65766758
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/phc.png Timmer75717271pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gnz.png Chaoufi73757661
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/spr.png Chavanne75647176pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/phc.png Wyss72757668
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/0r8.png Roux74787857pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/gnr.png Gaimon71757567
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/wpb.png Offredo74697661pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/ioc.png Durasek70757460
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/wcc.png Bush74627571pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/kul.png Hollenstein71757363
pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/prx.png Fouquet74677468pcmdaily.com/files/Micros17/azt.png Becerra68757268


Several more notable names at the start, of which a few won't count on their sprint skills:

Roleurs will definitely love the look of the profiles and just like the already mentioned Bar, we have guys like Gilbert, Verbist, Smukulis, Vandenbergh, Chavanne or Offredo and Bush as those riders, who would probably love to fool the sprinters on those three 220+ stages. It didn't happen last year, but that wouldn't prevent those roleurs from trying something this time, right?

Roux is featured on both the best roleurs and the best puncheurs list. Sure, hills won't be much of a factor, but there's some speedbumps, where a well allrounded rider like Roux could potentially play his flat, hill and stamina to his advantage. It's obviously a gamble, but Xero apparently gave it a go. Definitely one of the most interesting names on the startlist.

The same goes for some more puncheurs like the already mentioned Gilbert, Chaoufi, Wyss or Gaimon.
 
jandal7
Yep we're dumb, no jams no Clarke yet, for some reason, Roux. Save us Obi Wan Noscsoli, you're our only hope Sad
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roturn
Two of my former sprinters with podium chances. Wonder if either Nizzolo or Krieger can win the race even.

Should be a close one and I guess 4 chaotic stages.

Hope, no break (except for a late attack) takes the GC.
 
AbhishekLFC
The clash with Herald Sun made for very difficult team selections for these two races. Probably a couple of mistakes in the startlist here, mainly with Wyss and Van Zandbeek likely to be wasted. In hindsight, Kreder's doing well in Herald Sun, but I probably should've swapped my sprinters, given the length of the stages in this race. All ifs and buts in my mind at the moment!

Anyway, we need Krieger to finally step up and redeem his poor season. Battaglin did it to some extent in Colombia. Maybe we'll see an encore. Hopefully! This is another huge race in our promotion push.

Thanks for the preview tsmoha Smile
 
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Aquarius97
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Jakstar22
Von Hoff should probably be here...Although Hopefully Giacoppo can pull of a miracle!!!
 
Tamijo
We need an unfair result in this one Shock
 
Scorchio
With our attempt at a contrarian approach to season planning this year, WCC have avoided the double-header and placed all our eggs in this basket instead. We have a strong line-up, and some key rivals are in Australia. That probably puts even more pressure on to achieve a set of good results, but also to take responsibility for the race in terms of managing breaks. Hopefully our team make-up is suitable and up to the task, with guys like Vandousselaere , Quintero and Bush to act as the engine-room leaving Vasyluk, Lay and JAC to focus on stage finishes. The distance of the stages is of course a major factor here. Definitely a key clash in terms of both the title race, and promotion spots. Fingers crossed, but dreading the PCM AI management of the BotD!

Hence looking forward to TSM's reports with both anticipation and dread Pfft.
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Vien
Having succesfully sent our leaders to Australia, this race's goal will be to keep damages low. We do have Kip, but he's bound to lose time ona hilly stage so I doubt he'll be a big points scorer.

Also, let's go for the dream. Thorsen for the GC win Cool
 
Aquarius97
Not sure of the reason why we don't get in the breakaways without any kind of sprinter for this race... Frown
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AbhishekLFC
Vien wrote:
Also, let's go for the dream. Thorsen for the GC win Cool

Part 1 of the dream has been achieved. Congrats sutty Smile

Great sprint from Krieger, first to recover from a bad position and then for the final lunge. Keep this going please. It would help if Bogdanovics played his part too.

Thanks for the report!
 
Croatia14
Please please please a breakaway win for Roux here!
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Vien
Yes, yes, yes, NOOOO! Damnit, I already counted this one. Tough luck, but still some bonis at least.
 
jandal7
Hah cool not like breaks are our only option here good attitude lads.
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

[ICL] Santos-Euskadi | [PT] i.imgur.com/c85NSl6.png Xero Racing

i.imgur.com/PdCbs9I.png
i.imgur.com/RPIlJYr.png
5x i.imgur.com/wM6Wok5.png x5
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2x pcmdaily.com/images/mg/Awards2021/funniest21.png x2
2x i.imgur.com/TUidkLG.png x2
 
sutty68
I'm not used to all this good fortune Grin
 
Tamijo
sutty68 wrote:
I'm not used to all this good fortune Grin


Congratulation Banana
 
Yellow Jersey
Congratz Sutty you're on a roll Pfft
I have to admit I'm a disapointed, I got really excited to see Flaksis really close to reeling in the win, better luck next time.. Some bonus seconds so I can't complain
 
sutty68
Thanks Guys, It doesn't happen for me too often, so i am very happy indeed Grin
 
AbhishekLFC
Just shy of another podium for Krieger but he keeps his form going. Good signs. Shame for Wyss to crash. Maybe a breakaway beckons later.

Congrats on the win Balkan. Thanks for yet another report tsmoha Smile
 
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