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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 15:55
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
It is sad that some guys here are just bitter, instead of celebrating history in the making. Cheers guys, i am going to have a beer on a legend.
The only Sagan world championship that will be remembered in 20 years was maybe the Richmond one. The other 2 opposite teams completely fucked up. |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-09-2017 15:57
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Aquarius97 wrote:
Kalach wrote:
Yeah except mountain route every route is gonna to suit him. Looking for Austria WC
Which is mountanious. He won't win a forth in a row
Yep, obviously cant do that. Will be good to see the mountain course for a change and hopefully more active riding.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 24-09-2017 15:57
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
It is sad that some guys here are just bitter, instead of celebrating history in the making. Cheers guys, i am going to have a beer on a legend.
Have a good one Avin, despite everything 3x in a row is an achievement Sagan can be very proud of.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 24-09-2017 15:59
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Kirchen_75 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
It is sad that some guys here are just bitter, instead of celebrating history in the making. Cheers guys, i am going to have a beer on a legend.
The only Sagan world championship that will be remembered in 20 years was maybe the Richmond one. The other 2 opposite teams completely fucked up.
Maybe 5% will remember that, for rest and history books, only the result and first historic triple matters, you know that. 
Btw in these days and modern cycling, nobody can dominate thanks to agressive crazy attacks from 40-50kms far out (and he is even capable of that at some days like at DeRonde win).
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| AiZaK |
Posted on 24-09-2017 15:59
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Amazing Sagan like always!! |
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 24-09-2017 16:03
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Let me just say this: regardless of the way he won these championships, it has to be taken as historic because never before in the statistics of cycling someone rode to three consecutive wins. This is a fact and facts like this have to be considered history.
In 2015 he rode with category, proved he was the strongest. In 2016 he was in the right spot at the right time when the split occured and then he let Belgium (?) do the job until the end. Even though Cavendish was in the group, I'm sure Sagan never thought attacking, which would be suicidal in Doha, mainly because he was sure he would get to the line and beat Cavendish. It's his mental strength and confidence as well as a mature rider in all matters that gave him that win. This year, he took profit from the outcome of the race. I'm guessing some team organized and chased Alaphillipe and co. and if what Sagan says is true, he tried bridging the gap on the course which suited him most: the flat part, instead of the climbing section, clearly he was nowhere close to that monster form from Richmond. In the end it was all about power and technique, and Sagan does it better than almost everyone in the peloton. It's all about continuous work and I see nothing wrong with him winning again, thought, I have to be honest, it does get kind of boring after all this time.  |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 16:36
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Shonak wrote:
I would have loved to see Norwegians celebrating Kristoff. He had been a legend. Too bad.
Triple world champ is not legendary enough? I thought you like this stuff for history
Not in the way he won them. 2 times in a sprint, Zubeldiaing for the whole 250ish kms. He also Zubeldia'd all day in Richmond, but at least he attacked there.
Lol whatever...
You asked. I answered.
I have not asked you anything...i dont care about your hypocratic opinions.
You asked a question. Not via PM, but in a thread, so you're asking everyone who reads that. Yeah, you don't need to care about my opinions, I also don't really care about your opinions as a fanboy.
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| ruben |
Posted on 24-09-2017 16:39
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Meh worlds. Top 3 has been seen for exactly 200 meters.
Rather had one of the attackers win. Alaphilippe, Moscon, Terpstra, Gilbert, Van Avermaet, Gallopin, Wellens, Dumoulin, name em. Every attacker. Not another group sprint <_< |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 24-09-2017 17:14
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Oh yeah!
3x World Champion is just legendary. Add the fact that two of those titles were in sprints, which makes it more impressive. I don't believe those 3 courses suited Sagan perfectly, maybe only Richmond. Two sprints with a (reduced) bunch but with the likes of Cavendish, Kristoff, Matthews, Van Vermaet... means it's all the more impressive he won it twice, because during the season he loses against them "constantly".
Like I've said before: he's the only one who deserves that jersey and so he continues to wear it  although Van Avermaet would've deserved it as much, too, this year!
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 17:39
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https://sporza.be/cm/sporza/matchcente.../1.3065384
Last 3 kilometres from the heli.
Seems like there were attacks by Swift, Lutsenko, Gilbert and Cort which brought back Alaphilippe, Moscon and Kiry
Edited by Spilak23 on 24-09-2017 17:44
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 24-09-2017 17:45
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3x in a row is a quite an achievement and with this he has put himself among the cycling's greats, such as:
Alfredo Binda
Rik Van Steenbergen
Eddy Merckx
Óscar Freire
Allf of them have 3 world road race titles, but none of them won them in a succession like Sagan did. I think he still has chances for a record breaking 4th title, but 4 in a row would be hard feat as Innsbruck-Tirol 2018 would favor a more climber specialists like for an example Alaphilippe (he's IMO the favorite in 2018). Now Sagan needs to win Paris-Roubaix - the spring classic he never won (but in PCM I've managed to get a lot of wins there with him )
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| Kalach |
Posted on 24-09-2017 17:45
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Van Avermaet can never beat Sagan in sprint on flat finish. GVA missed his biggest chance in Richmond - course for him as well. Now i dont see him winning worlds since next year is climbers course and years further he will be probably getting "too" old
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 17:46
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Gianni Moscon disqualified of the race after pulling a "Nibali"
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 18:12
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Well that was pretty boring. Finally a gppd and selective race next year, we have waited since 2013... |
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 18:19
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Sooo cloooose for Kristoff - Downtown was packed, crazy atmosphere. Amazing race aswell.
Sagan is just a legend, kudos.
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| Kalach |
Posted on 24-09-2017 18:22
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But its not clearly seen on that video?
Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 24-09-2017 18:29
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Too late, he influenced the race. Together with the tv-disaster two major disappointments from the organisation.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 24-09-2017 20:35
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Omg, Gaviria rode like a complete retard  Just seen the clip, why you not wait for the sprint son? Anyways incredibly impressive to go this well after so much rotten luck in his prep, I didn't expect him to keep up let alone animate the race. Oh well.
Here is the video btw: https://www.tv2.no/sport/9384804/
Like, wtf is he doing..  still got 8th.
Edited by Riis123 on 24-09-2017 20:48
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 24-09-2017 21:41
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best rider ever? Don't get that exited boy |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 24-09-2017 22:46
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Riis123 wrote:
Omg, Gaviria rode like a complete retard Just seen the clip, why you not wait for the sprint son? Anyways incredibly impressive to go this well after so much rotten luck in his prep, I didn't expect him to keep up let alone animate the race. Oh well.
Here is the video btw: https://www.tv2.no/sport/9384804/
Like, wtf is he doing.. still got 8th.
Hehe, cool to see that Gaviria is not afraid to attack at least. He's just way more than your regular sprinter obviously and could well turn into a classic-sprinter man like a young Boonen. Just a pity we didn't see it live. I would have gotten super hyped at that moment but I'd been equally frustrated in that moment, too, because of energy waste. Gaviria is still so young, today 8th was a first good result after the long injury and the bad luck in Britain. He'll be ready for 2019.
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