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Kirchen_75
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Is this the same course as the elite?


Yes it is


I cant see how this is too hard for Gaviria but then again Colombia not strong enough to control the race.
 
viking90
It was a fun race to watch, Kämna looked strong when he attacked and it was always a question if they could stay away from the pack.

Another Top 30 from Lucas Eriksson. 6th and 7th in MJ some years ago and today 24th and 27th in Richmond u23 2015.
Still hoping he can have a bright future with Hampus Anderberg (injured today)

Ugly crash when a service car hit a rider.
 
Paul23
Kirchen_75 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Is this the same course as the elite?


Yes it is


I cant see how this is too hard for Gaviria but then again Colombia not strong enough to control the race.

Would it be too hard for Kristoff?
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hillis91
Paul23 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Is this the same course as the elite?


Yes it is


I cant see how this is too hard for Gaviria but then again Colombia not strong enough to control the race.

Would it be too hard for Kristoff?


If Gaviria can survive, Kristoff can. It's home turf and a home crowd. That gives a 1% bonus
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Spilak23
Anyone knows why the Germans left their two best riders at home?

Last year they made such a mess of it with three sprinters and this year they leave their leaders at home..?
 
Kiserlovski01
Spilak23 wrote:
Anyone knows why the Germans left their two best riders at home?

Last year they made such a mess of it with three sprinters and this year they leave their leaders at home..?


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https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/lat...wer-352284 (EN)
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cio93
Spilak23 wrote:
Anyone knows why the Germans left their two best riders at home?

Last year they made such a mess of it with three sprinters and this year they leave their leaders at home..?


Who exactly? Greipel and Buchmann?
 
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Spilak23
And Greipel? For the dissapointing season he had he was great in FLanders and Roubaix. He gets better at long and hard races every week.
 
ringo182
Bets placed for Sunday. £10 each way on each. Top 4 pays out.

EBH - 10/1
Gaviria - 10/1
Trentin - 14/1
Swift - 100/1

What do you reckon?
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
 
hillis91
ringo182 wrote:
Bets placed for Sunday. £10 each way on each. Top 4 pays out.

EBH - 10/1
Gaviria - 10/1
Trentin - 14/1
Swift - 100/1

What do you reckon?


EBH
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trekbmc
After watching that race, I'm really reckoning Colbrelli will win this year or at least podium, just kind of feel it.

ringo182 wrote:
Bets placed for Sunday. £10 each way on each. Top 4 pays out.

EBH - 10/1
Gaviria - 10/1
Trentin - 14/1
Swift - 100/1

What do you reckon?


Swift is an great pick at those odds, if he's trained for it, he could actually be a podium shot. Smile Would be a massive risk but could pay off.



"What done is, is one." - Benji Naesen
 
Paul23
hillis91 wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Is this the same course as the elite?


Yes it is


I cant see how this is too hard for Gaviria but then again Colombia not strong enough to control the race.

Would it be too hard for Kristoff?


If Gaviria can survive, Kristoff can. It's home turf and a home crowd. That gives a 1% bonus


Yeah, but what I mostly meant is, do the Norwegians maybe decide to work for EBH, since it suits him better?
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hillis91
Paul23 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Paul23 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
hillis91 wrote:
Kirchen_75 wrote:
Is this the same course as the elite?


Yes it is


I cant see how this is too hard for Gaviria but then again Colombia not strong enough to control the race.

Would it be too hard for Kristoff?


If Gaviria can survive, Kristoff can. It's home turf and a home crowd. That gives a 1% bonus


Yeah, but what I mostly meant is, do the Norwegians maybe decide to work for EBH, since it suits him better?


As far as i know, the team will protect Kristoff and EBH - and Eiking will have an free role.

I do belive they will ride the race like they did in Denmark(Euros). Eddy making his move within the last 2 laps, and Kristoff sticking with the chasing group.

So, Norway IMO will be riding to keep the race close and within striking distance for EBH and Kristoff
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Forever the Best
TheManxMissile wrote:
Shonak wrote:
I'll leave the honours of introducing the women's race to TMM. Smile


Smart money is on Longo-Borghini or the Dutch to win the RR. Dutch again for the ITT. Will run up a better idea nearer the time when i've actually looked at the startlist Pfft
I hope one Vos or Bronzini wins. Bronzini winning is possible since she was 2nd on European Championships RR to Vos. But the problem for her is Longo Borghini. Pfft

Though a dream scenario would be Niewiadoma, Lepistö or Annemiek winning. But the parcours are too easy for Niewiadoma and Annemiek; and too hard for Lepistö imo.
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Gracias Alberto.
 
TheManxMissile
Forever the Best wrote:
I hope one Vos or Bronzini wins. Bronzini winning is possible since she was 2nd on European Championships RR to Vos. But the problem for her is Longo Borghini. Pfft

Though a dream scenario would be Niewiadoma, Lepistö or Annemiek winning. But the parcours are too easy for Niewiadoma and Annemiek; and too hard for Lepistö imo.


Wouldn't use the Euro's as too much of a guide, the Worlds are longer and on a tougher course. It's also a less likely race to finish in a sprint given the make-up of teams and number of riders with desire to win.
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Forever the Best
TheManxMissile wrote:
Forever the Best wrote:
I hope one Vos or Bronzini wins. Bronzini winning is possible since she was 2nd on European Championships RR to Vos. But the problem for her is Longo Borghini. Pfft

Though a dream scenario would be Niewiadoma, Lepistö or Annemiek winning. But the parcours are too easy for Niewiadoma and Annemiek; and too hard for Lepistö imo.


Wouldn't use the Euro's as too much of a guide, the Worlds are longer and on a tougher course. It's also a less likely race to finish in a sprint given the make-up of teams and number of riders with desire to win.
But isn't Bronzini a type of Oscar Freire? Meaning that she gets better with distance and some more hills (but not tough enough) It isn't harder than Geelong '10 where she won. But if all the climbers/puncheurs race hard she will probably not be in the first group.
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Gracias Alberto.
 
TheManxMissile
The Dutch definitely have the strongest team for tomorrow. Vos, van der Breggen, van Vleuten and van Dijk are all exceptionally strong riders in their own right. Whilst Brand, Blaak, Pieter and Ensing are also all top level winners. Can they work well enough together? I'm not sure, we could see a few individuals going after their own race at the expense of national cohesion.

Denmark are my real darkhorses. Dideriksen has a great finish, as demonstrated in Qatar, but she's also capable of handling a lot of hills thrown her way. Uttrup Ludwig is one to watch if the race does get heated on Salmon Hill, exploded onto the elite scene this season with the World Tour Youth win.

Coryn Rivera has to be watched. She won't attack to win the race, but if any group comes to the line with her in it... well, she can outsprint anyone in the peloton, especially after a hard race. If the USA rallies around her as a sole leader, they'll be very very hard to stop.

Longo-Borghini is the big Italian threat. Hard to drop with hard riding, hard to beat on a climb like Salmon Hill, and with a fast kick. Keep an eye on Elisa Balsamo, last years Junior WC is here at just 19 and this will be a tough tough test for her.

Australia. All the pre-race talk was on the Aussies for all the wrong reasons. They don't have a real favorite, but if Hosking can be in the front group at the finish you have to count her. Plus i know they'll be racing aggressive trying to break the race up and slip away, which will be fun.

Deignan... she was in hospital having her appendix out just weeks ago, so even being here is a result. I doubt she'll feature in the race much, but it's hard to completely ignore a previous WC. Don't see much else coming from the GB team unless the Barnes are in dangerous form, or unless King is given too much leeway in a massive break.

D'Hoore should be watched if she's around the front near the end, but i'm not convinced on her for this course.
Niewiadom can't ever be forgotten. Not as hard as she might like but this insane talent (still only 22) will always be in the mix.
PFP has all the skills for a race like this, but i can't see her taking Rainbow again.
Moolman as the first African WC? She's had a great year and is in good form coming to Norway. A real real threat if the race can be made hard enough.
If we get a sprint, Lepisto has to be a favorite. But a hard race will shift her out the main pack.
Gutierez is the pick of the Spaniards, but will need serious luck and early time gain to win.
Not much to cheer for the home fans, definately beyond what Aalerud or Heine or Moberg can deliver.
Then we're so far down the startlist it would be astounding if a rider won.

Personal prediction:
1. Anna van der Breggen
2. Elisa Longo-Borghini
3. Amelie Dideriksen
(but f*ck if i know, as usual it's a contest with a lot of riders who really can win this)
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Avin Wargunnson
So much discussions, just to see the succesive triple world champion being crowned, pff. Grin
I'll be back
 
Guido Mukk
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
So much discussions, just to see the succesive triple world champion being crowned, pff. Grin


I hope not..for just annoy you.
Why you working so hard to make great rider to not liked rider.
 
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