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| jaxika |
Posted on 18-09-2017 19:00
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hillis91 wrote:
I think it's done.
You need a total of 8 riders for your devolpment team right? So 6*100 + 2*200 = 1000?
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 18-09-2017 19:01
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Is the team constant, so if you have like 14 eligable riders - can you switch them out for each race. Or is the 8 you choose, only racing u23 races for the enitre season?
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-09-2017 19:17
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If they are designated to be in your u23 team, they are in there all season.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-09-2017 19:34
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hillis91 wrote:
What does the Recalc include? Is that the one you pay if you want to make a rider better?
It's a recalcutation of rider stat limits. Eg when a young rider with pot 6 hits his limit at mt76 at age 25 you can buy the package and have a chance for a higher stat limit, eg mt78
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-09-2017 21:32
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krisa wrote:
My opinion on rider decreasement and retirement, definately after seing visconti decrease so hard.
In my opinion all ICL riders should develop until they reach the age of 30.
First decreases should start with riders tha reach the age of 31 last riders that start to decrease at the age of 33. Riders that reach their Age of decline shouldn't be allowed to get trained anymore to keep them at the same level.
| 31 Age of decrease | 32 Age of decrease | 33 Age of Decrease | | 31 -> 32 | -1 | 0 | 0 | | 32 -> 33 | -1 | -1 | 0 | | 33 -> 34 | -1 | -2 | -2 | | 34 -> 35 | -1 | -1 | -2 | | 35 -> 36 | -2 | -2 | -2 | | 36 -> 37 | -2 | -2 | -2 | | 37 -> 38 | -2 | -2 | -2 | | 38 -> 39 | Retirement | Retirement | Retirement |
To give an example what will happen when someone has reached the max stat of 82.
| 31 Age of decrease | 32 Age of decrease | 33 Age of Decrease | | MAX | 82 | 82 | 82 | | 31 -> 32 | 81 | 82 | 82 | | 32 -> 33 | 80 | 81 | 82 | | 33 -> 34 | 79 | 79 | 80 | | 34 -> 35 | 78 | 78 | 78 | | 35 -> 36 | 76 | 76 | 76 | | 36 -> 37 | 74 | 74 | 74 | | 37 -> 38 | 72 | 72 | 72 | | 38 -> 39 | Retirement | Retirement | Retirement |
Riders who have hit the 35 years old and don't have a team should get removed from the db. However other riders should not all race till the age of 39, Instead I want to prevent of them all reaching the age of 39. Which you could easily prevent by adding a higher minimum wage for the best riders of a generation. Riders who are in Categorie 1 ever reached 82 on at least one of the five main stats (Hill, Sprint, TT, Cobbles or Mountain). Riders who hit 81 on one of those stat in categorie 2, third categorie for the guys who hit 80. This minimum wages will prevent riders to retire at 39 instead of the managers who really love to keep them (moneys are just examples).
| Cat.1 riders (82) | Cat.2 riders (81) | Cat.3 riders (80) | | Minimum Wage | 650 | 500 | 400 |
Of course this all is just an example, but isn't as random as the one you would like to use, and it seems more realistic to me.
Think this could be a viable alternative. The categorization of the riders could be fun and may end up quite expensive to have some name values to bad riders which you dont want to let go off 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 18-09-2017 23:44
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Too late to relegate now and switch sponsors to WCC? 
And give away loads of bad riders and somehow get 650 to turn Astier into pot 7 god?
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."
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| Bikex |
Posted on 19-09-2017 13:39
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I have updated the Archive File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqs0ihk60qg....xlsm?dl=0
May I know how much the interest in this file is? Dependent on that I decide how much I work on finishing/improving it. The teams and Races pages are not yet complete.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 19-09-2017 13:47
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Yeees, waited for this file to be updated.  I definitely love it and hope you continue to provide us with the details. it's very nice to follow the game's progress and go in-depth on a rider's progress. I'm sure it'll help the quality of Team posts since it provides plenty of insight on that front.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| knockout |
Posted on 19-09-2017 14:11
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I like it a lot. Only last week I had it open to look some statistics up until realising it wasn't updated. Thanks a lot for this 
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| Ripley |
Posted on 19-09-2017 14:14
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Looking at the CT after this transfer round there are two signings (so far this season) I'm most envious about:
- Moreno Moser (Wilier Trestina): 28 years old and potential 7, he will still improve and he's already pretty much the best hilly classics rider in the whole ICL world with his HIL 79, STA 78, FLA 75 and the rest. The manager had to make a 2nd round FA bid and won with 900, still a most reasonable wage.
-Geraint Thomas (Wiggle): He has surely peaked and is already 32, but apart from that he's a simply great rider, COB 78, plus FLA 77, STA 77, HIL 74, TTR 76 and much more. And all that for a wage of only 650. A steal, something we were told would have little chance of succeeding, but Wiggle hit the jackpot.
Well done to both those managers. There are a lot more signings I also like, of course, way too many to mention them all, but those two stand out for me. I would have never had the balls to compete for Moser and I never considered Thomas for a steal, either, even though my only two steal attempts were also on Bunzl riders - sorry, brewers!
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| matt17br |
Posted on 19-09-2017 14:18
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he's already pretty much the best hilly classics rider in the whole ICL world with his HIL 79, STA 78, FLA 75 and the rest.
I didn't notice he was the best hilly rider, he did his best to hide it from me clearly
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| Bikex |
Posted on 19-09-2017 14:38
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Having updated the Archive File I could also quickly update the stats sheet for GT and monuments results after I haven't done so in 2 seasons: https://www.dropbox.com/s/rna87qgnvxg....xlsx?dl=0
A short overview on the most important stats:
Grand Tours
Chris Froome is still the king of ICL Grand Tours, despite a rather weak 2017 season also due to an unfortunate planning. He leads the win list with a win in each of the GTs as well as the Stages Ranking with 19 wins, the same amount as Marcel Kittel, who is by far the most successful GT sprinter; Cavendish in second with 8 wins. Also notable Nibali now with 9 GT stage wins, after he had still 0 in my last update. Until 2017 only Adam Hansen and Valerio Agnoli completed all 3 GTs in the same year. In 2017 a stunning 7 riders completed the challenge.
GC Results:
Spoiler | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | | 1 | Chris Froome | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | 2 | Nairo Quintana | 2 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | 3 | Vincenzo Nibali | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 4 | Alberto Contador | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | | 5 | JoaquÃm RodrÃguez | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 6 | Tejay Van Garderen | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 7 | Bauke Mollema | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 8 | Rigoberto Urán | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 9 | Jurgen Van den Broeck | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | Rafal Majka | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 11 | Carlos Betancur | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | 12 | Andrew Talansky | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Thomas De Gendt | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 14 | Alejandro Valverde | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | 15 | Richie Porte | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 16 | Chris Horner | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Daniel Martin | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | MichaÅ‚ Kwiatkowski | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Romain Bardet | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Silvio Herklotz | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 21 | Cadel Evans | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Domenico Pozzovivo | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Fabio Aru | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Leopold König | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Pierre Rolland | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Sergio Henao | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Warren Barguil | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
Stage Results:
Spoiler | Stages | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | | 1 | Chris Froome | 19 | 19 | 20 | 5 | 7 | | 2 | Marcel Kittel | 19 | 9 | 7 | 4 | 2 | | 3 | Alberto Contador | 17 | 11 | 16 | 14 | 7 | | 4 | JoaquÃm RodrÃguez | 13 | 6 | 6 | 3 | 3 | | 5 | Nairo Quintana | 12 | 18 | 11 | 14 | 12 | | 6 | Vincenzo Nibali | 9 | 11 | 13 | 6 | 7 | | 7 | Mark Cavendish | 8 | 9 | 11 | 6 | 5 | | 8 | Tejay Van Garderen | 8 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 7 | | 9 | Bryan Coquard | 7 | 6 | 3 | 4 | 2 | | 10 | André Greipel | 5 | 6 | 4 | 1 | 0 | | 11 | Arnaud Demare | 5 | 3 | 7 | 5 | 6 | | 12 | Romain Bardet | 5 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | | 13 | Rafal Majka | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 1 | | 14 | Danny Van Poppel | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | | 15 | Carlos Betancur | 3 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 5 | | 16 | John Degenkolb | 3 | 4 | 4 | 9 | 5 | | 17 | Bauke Mollema | 3 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 8 | | 18 | Matthew Goss | 3 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 10 | | 19 | Thomas De Gendt | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 2 | | 20 | Rui Costa | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | 21 | Daniel Martin | 2 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 4 | | 22 | Andrea Guardini | 2 | 4 | 1 | 6 | 2 | | 23 | Peter Sagan | 2 | 4 | 1 | 3 | 1 | | 24 | Alejandro Valverde | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 2 | | 25 | Jérôme Coppel | 2 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 2 | | 26 | Giovanni Visconti | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 27 | Roman Kreuziger | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | | 28 | Warren Barguil | 2 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6 | | 29 | Bradley Wiggins | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | 30 | Fabian Cancellara | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 31 | Luke Durbridge | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Tiesj Benoot | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 33 | Maxim Iglinskiy | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Sylvain Chavanel | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 35 | Marc Goos | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Romain Sicard | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Sebastian Langeveld | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Sergio Pardilla | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 39 | Elia Viviani | 1 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | | 40 | Philippe Gilbert | 1 | 4 | 1 | 2 | 1 | | 41 | Rigoberto Urán | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | | 42 | Jonas Vangenechten | 1 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | | 43 | Giacomo Nizzolo | 1 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 | | 44 | Tony Martin | 1 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 | | 45 | Simon Clarke | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 46 | Jurgen Van den Broeck | 1 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | | 47 | MichaÅ‚ Kwiatkowski | 1 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 2 | | 48 | Adam Yates | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | | 49 | Daryl Impey | 1 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1 | | 50 | Damiano Cunego | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Jan Polanc | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 52 | Clément Chevrier | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Enrico Barbin | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Enrico Battaglin | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Ibai Salas | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 56 | Zdenek Stybar | 1 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | | 57 | Francisco José Ventoso | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | 58 | Daniele Bennati | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | José Pimenta | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | Matthew Busche | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | 61 | Jonathan Castroviejo | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Luca Wackermann | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Quentin Jauregui | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Sacha Modolo | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 65 | Silvio Herklotz | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | | 66 | Vladimir Gusev | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | 67 | Taylor Phinney | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | 68 | Patrick Konrad | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 69 | Cayetano Sarmiento | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Dominik Nerz | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Johann Tschopp | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Rémy Di Gregorio | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 73 | Stef Clement | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | | 74 | Nicolas Roche | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 75 | Brent Bookwalter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 76 | Alexandre Geniez | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Andy Schleck | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Arthur Vichot | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Björn Leukemans | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Daniele Pietropolli | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | David Boily | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Gianluca Brambilla | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Jan Ghyselinck | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Juan Pablo Suarez | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Kenny Elissonde | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Mattia Cattaneo | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Pierrick Fédrigo | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Preben Van Hecke | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Rhys Lloyd | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Rinaldo Nocentini | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Salvatore Puccio | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Simon Yates | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Tom-Jelte Slagter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Winner Anacona | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 95 | Cadel Evans | 0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | 96 | Tyler Farrar | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 97 | Gerald Ciolek | 0 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 3 | | 98 | Pierre Rolland | 0 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 99 | Fabio Aru | 0 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 0 | | 100 | Simon Gerrans | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 101 | Marcus Burghardt | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 102 | Robert Gesink | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 4 | | 103 | Diego Ulissi | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 104 | Jonathan Hivert | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Mauro Santambrogio | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 106 | Diego Rosa | 0 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | | 107 | Edvald Boasson Hagen | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 3 | | 108 | Davide Appollonio | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | | 109 | Eros Capecchi | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | | 110 | Matej Mohoric | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | 111 | Alexander Kristoff | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | Javier Moreno | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | Julian Arredondo | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | 114 | George Bennett | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Ivan Santaromita | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Joseph Dombrowski | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Linus Gerdemann | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Pieter Serry | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Robert Kiserlovski | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Steven Kruijswijk | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 121 | Thibaut Pinot | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 3 | | 122 | Ben Swift | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1 | | 123 | Maxime Monfort | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | | 124 | Andrew Fenn | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | Wouter Wippert | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 126 | Dylan Groenewegen | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Julien Simon | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Matteo Rabottini | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Michael Hepburn | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 130 | Davide Villella | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Manuele Boaro | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Riccardo Zoidl | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Sonny Colbrelli | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 134 | Ben King | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Bob Jungels | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Christophe Le Mével | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Daan Olivier | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Gustav Erik Larsson | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Marc De Maar | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Marcel Aregger | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Marco Haller | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Maxime Bouet | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Mikaël Chérel | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Natnael Berhane | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Nick Van der Lijke | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Niki Terpstra | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Nikita Novikov | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Pascal Ackermann | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Steve Chainel | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Sven Vandousselaere | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Tsgabu Grmay | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Yuepeng Liu | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 153 | Richie Porte | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 1 | | 154 | Mikel Nieve | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | | 155 | Ian Stannard | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Igor Antón | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Luke Rowe | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Moreno Hofland | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | Przemyslaw Niemiec | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | 160 | Nacer Bouhanni | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | | 161 | Leopold König | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 1 | | 162 | Sergio Henao | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | | 163 | Chris Horner | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 164 | Cameron Meyer | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Fabio Felline | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Laurens Ten Dam | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Michael Matthews | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Sam Bennett | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Thomas Löfkvist | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | Tom Van Asbroeck | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | 171 | Adam Blythe | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | | Geraint Thomas | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | | 173 | Alexsandr Dyachenko | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | Jakob Fuglsang | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | Mikel Landa | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | 176 | Anders Newbury | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Arman Kamyshev | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Bakhtiyar Kozhatayev | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Boy Van Poppel | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Christian Bertilsson | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Haimar Zubeldia | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Jasper Bovenhuis | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Jens Debusschere | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Julien Vermote | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Kanstantsin Siutsou | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Kenneth Vanbilsen | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Kevin Seeldraeyers | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Kristijan Durasek | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Maarten Wynants | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Patrick Gretsch | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Rafael Valls | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Rubén Plaza | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Stefano Pirazzi | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Tom Dumoulin | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 195 | Andrew Talansky | 0 | 0 | 0 | 5 | 1 | | 196 | Fränk Schleck | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | | Luka Mezgec | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 | | 198 | Andriy Grivko | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | Heiner Parra | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | Peter Velits | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | Simon Spilak | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | 202 | Bart De Clercq | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | Fabio Duarte | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | 204 | Adrien Petit | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | Jelle Vanendert | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | Jürgen Roelandts | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | Luca Ascani | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | Sergey Lagutin | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | Sondre Holst Enger | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 210 | Alexander Porsev | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Artem Ovechkin | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Barry Markus | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Benjamin Dyball | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Christophe Kern | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | George Preidler | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | José Rujano | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Julian Alaphilippe | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Juris Eisaks | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Lars Petter Nordhaug | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Merhawi Kudus | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Michael Albasini | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Michael Vanthourenhout | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Pablo Urtasun | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Roberto Ferrari | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Romain Feillu | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Steve Morabito | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Wout Poels | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Yannick Eijssen | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 229 | Dario Cataldo | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | | Domenico Pozzovivo | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | | 231 | Aidis Kruopis | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | Arnold Jeannesson | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | Damiano Caruso | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | Samuel Sánchez | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 235 | Alex Clements | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Alexey Tsatevitch | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Andy Byrne | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Argiro Ospina | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Borut Božic | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Christophe Riblon | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Daniel Navarro | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Dries Devenyns | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Fabian Wegmann | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Frederico Figueiredo | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Gaetan Bille | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Gavin Mannion | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Guillaume Boivin | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Ian Boswell | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Jan Hirt | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Karol Domagalski | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Matthias Plarre | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Mirko Kovacic | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Peter Kennaugh | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Sam Bewley | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Tom Boonen | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Tosh Van der Sande | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
All Gts:
Spoiler 2014
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2015
Adam Hansen
2016
Valerio Agnoli
2017
Arnaud Geronboux
Cameron Meyer
Lachlan Morton
Michele Scarponi
Rémy Di Gregorio
Romain Sicard
Samuel Sánchez
Monuments
Monument wins are far more evenly split among the champions of ICL: Only 3 riders managed to win more than one Monument so far: Bauke Mollema, Philippe Gilbert and amazingly Alberto Contador with his two LBL wins. John Degenkolb is the rider with the most podiums (6), including 4 second places. The recent Il Lombardia was the first ever monument in all of ICL history that hadn't Peter Sagan on the results sheet. He was the only rider to complete all of the first 19. Until recently even with him was Maxim Iglinskiy who rode all 15 monuments until his retirement. The change of focus of Sagan is also apparent in the rankings of riders doing all monuments in a year, which Sagan still won in the first 2 seasons. After that Philippe Gilbert took over being the best Monument rider two years straight now.
Results
Spoiler | | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | | 1 | Bauke Mollema | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 2 | Philippe Gilbert | 2 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 0 | | 3 | Alberto Contador | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 4 | John Degenkolb | 1 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 5 | JoaquÃm RodrÃguez | 1 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 6 | Sep Vanmarcke | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 0 | | 7 | Peter Sagan | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 8 | Niki Terpstra | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | | 9 | Maarten Wynants | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Marcel Kittel | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 11 | Fabian Cancellara | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 12 | Matthew Goss | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 13 | MichaÅ‚ Kwiatkowski | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 14 | Alexander Kristoff | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Alexey Lutsenko | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Jens Debusschere | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | Stijn Vandenbergh | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 18 | Tom Boonen | 0 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | 19 | Carlos Betancur | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | 20 | Daniel Moreno | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Danny Van Poppel | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Guillaume Van Keirsbulck | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 23 | Alejandro Valverde | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 24 | André Greipel | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | 25 | Matej Mohoric | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | 26 | Daniel Martin | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | 27 | Vincenzo Nibali | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 | | 28 | Sergio Henao | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | 29 | Greg Van Avermaet | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | 30 | Borut Božic | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Mark Cavendish | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Nacer Bouhanni | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | Rui Costa | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | 34 | Arnaud Demare | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Gerald Ciolek | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Moreno Moser | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Nairo Quintana | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | Sébastien Turgot | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 39 | Zdenek Stybar | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | 40 | Jürgen Roelandts | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Luka Mezgec | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Roman Kreuziger | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | Sylvain Chavanel | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
#Mon
Spoiler | 1 | Peter Sagan | 19 | | 2 | Philippe Gilbert | 18 | | 3 | Greg Van Avermaet | 16 | | Ion Izagirre | 16 | | Zdenek Stybar | 16 | | 6 | Geraint Thomas | 15 | | Maxim Iglinskiy | 15 | | Tony Gallopin | 15 | | 9 | Dries Devenyns | 14 | | Guillaume Van Keirsbulck | 14 | | Luca Paolini | 14 | | Marco Marcato | 14 | | 13 | Elia Favilli | 13 | | Ian Stannard | 13 | | Jens Keukeleire | 13 | | John Degenkolb | 13 | | Jürgen Roelandts | 13 | | 18 | Daniel Oss | 12 | | Kenneth Vanbilsen | 12 | | Laurens De Vreese | 12 | | Sam Spokes | 12 | | Sander Cordeel | 12 | | Sebastian Langeveld | 12 | | Sep Vanmarcke | 12 | | Sylvain Chavanel | 12 | | 26 | Alexander Kristoff | 11 | | Davide Villella | 11 | | Florian Senechal | 11 | | Jan Ghyselinck | 11 | | Jempy Drucker | 11 | | Jens Debusschere | 11 | | Matteo Trentin | 11 | | Michael Schär | 11 | | Michał Kwiatkowski | 11 | | Niki Terpstra | 11 | | Philip Lavery | 11 | | Sebastian Lander | 11 | | Simon Yates | 11 | | Tom Boonen | 11 | | 40 | Alessandro Ballan | 10 | | Daniele Ratto | 10 | | Fabian Cancellara | 10 | | Gianni Meersman | 10 | | Heinrich Haussler | 10 | | Johan Vansummeren | 10 | | Lars Boom | 10 | | Matti Breschel | 10 | | Moreno Moser | 10 | | Robinson Chalapud | 10 | | Romain Bardet | 10 | | Salvatore Puccio | 10 | | Sébastien Turgot | 10 | | Stijn Vandenbergh | 10 | | Taylor Phinney | 10 | | Thomas Moses | 10 | | Tom-Jelte Slagter | 10 |
All Monuments
Spoiler | 2014 | | | | 1 | Peter Sagan | 62 | | 2 | Maxim Iglinskiy | 141 | | 3 | Greg Van Avermaet | 151 | | 4 | Geraint Thomas | 225 | | 5 | Tony Gallopin | 233 | | 6 | Marco Marcato | 321 | | 7 | Dries Devenyns | 325 | | 8 | Salvatore Puccio | 388 | | 9 | Ion Izagirre | 394 | | | | | 2015 | | | | 1 | Peter Sagan | 32 | | 2 | John Degenkolb | 36 | | 3 | Maxim Iglinskiy | 152 | | 4 | Tony Gallopin | 250 | | 5 | Borut Božic | 252 | | 6 | Sebastian Lander | 447 | | | | | 2016 | | | | 1 | Philippe Gilbert | 47 | | 2 | Peter Sagan | 55 | | 3 | Zdenek Stybar | 105 | | 4 | Sylvain Chavanel | 180 | | 5 | Maxim Iglinskiy | 247 | | 6 | Dries Devenyns | 265 | | 7 | Alessandro Ballan | 410 | | 8 | Jakob Rathe | 487 | | 9 | Jens Voigt | 514 | | 10 | Juan Pablo Valencia | 544 | | | | | 2017 | | | | 1 | Philippe Gilbert | 56 | | 2 | Greg Van Avermaet | 166 | | 3 | Jürgen Roelandts | 250 | | 4 | Guillaume Van Keirsbulck | 268 | | 5 | Laurens De Vreese | 321 | | 6 | Jempy Drucker | 394 | | 7 | Edward Smith | 511 |
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Btw I'm not overlooking the posts about the change with the Age of Decline: Some very nice ideas there, I'll take a closer look on them, when I have the time. |
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| Ripley |
Posted on 19-09-2017 14:58
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matt17br wrote:
he's already pretty much the best hilly classics rider in the whole ICL world with his HIL 79, STA 78, FLA 75 and the rest.
I didn't notice he was the best hilly rider, he did his best to hide it from me clearly
It should have read something like "best specialised hilly classics rider", since his big opponents are also GT GC riders (and Gilbert is now 36).
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| Shonak |
Posted on 19-09-2017 15:10
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Love how Liberty Seguros is the just second team to achieve 100 professional wins behind the sprinter gods of CSC  Quite an exclusive club I say 
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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Posted on 19-09-2017 15:45
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Shonak wrote:
Love how Liberty Seguros is the just second team to achieve 100 professional wins behind the sprinter gods of CSC Quite an exclusive club I say
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 19-09-2017 15:50
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Bikex wrote:
I have updated the Archive File: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sqs0ihk60qg....xlsm?dl=0
May I know how much the interest in this file is? Dependent on that I decide how much I work on finishing/improving it. The teams and Races pages are not yet complete.
Maybe someone has also some nice suggestions on what to add.
I love the idea of the ICL archive, it's a really useful thing to have. Unfortunately I can't get the functions to work in OpenOffice but I'm glad that the file is now smaller - it loads much quicker than the old one.
I think once I've figured out a quick way to use the file it will be great, so thanks for compiling it again
That is just painful! At least his managers don't have much to complain about since they're probably the two most successful sprinting teams in ICL history.
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| knockout |
Posted on 19-09-2017 16:05
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Poor cio
But to be fair, some of these results probably come from being final leadout man for Marcel Kittel. i used him a lot in that role in more important races like TDF, MSR or Palm Classic
He would win more in basically every other team
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| hillis91 |
Posted on 19-09-2017 16:15
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knockout wrote:
Poor cio
But to be fair, some of these results probably come from being final leadout man for Marcel Kittel. i used him a lot in that role in more important races like TDF, MSR or Palm Classic
He would win more in basically every other team
And how are you sure you can pick the lead out man?
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| knockout |
Posted on 19-09-2017 16:56
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hillis91 wrote:
knockout wrote:
Poor cio
But to be fair, some of these results probably come from being final leadout man for Marcel Kittel. i used him a lot in that role in more important races like TDF, MSR or Palm Classic
He would win more in basically every other team
And how are you sure you can pick the lead out man?
I can never be sure what exactly will happen but one can do educated guesses. Kittel as the best sprinter in the game will often get a leadout train from the AI. In most cases the leadout will simply consist of the guy with the second highest SP stat of your team as final man and third highest SP guy.
So when I send Kittel, Ciolek, Willwohl, Chaix, Wagner, Boom and Mathis to a race the leadout will likely be willwohl -> Ciolek -> Kittel
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| cio93 |
Posted on 19-09-2017 17:23
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OZrocker wrote:
That is just painful! At least his managers don't have much to complain about since they're probably the two most successful sprinting teams in ICL history.
Still a better love story than in the ManGame...
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