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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 06-09-2017 15:52
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roturn wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
I'm just so taken back I have no words. I understand there was uncertainty with Garmin likely gone and having a poor TDF, but he's 28 and finished in the top 5 of the Vuelta last season! It just doesn't make sense to me. I'm at a loss.
It is weird one. We should thanks for that also probably Cannondale team collapse.
Also team has been like regular french team, who has wasted so many possible future great hope riders.
Depends from what point of view you look at it (ethical wise).
Obviously nobody knows if Team A acts better than Team B. But there surely are examples of teams I wouldn`t really argue about their ethical way" of progression while at other teams I might actually believe they are riding a lot "cleaner.
That actually said, riders like Formolo, Villella, Bettiol!, recently Dombrowski even progressed decently with them. Not too bad at least.
Dan Martin also was fine with them before making the next step.
I wont say it like this..black teams and white teams.
You was naming young riders who should develop. Matured rider at this team have mostly stepped one step back. because they did not getting dope anymore?
Haussler, Vanmarcke, Maaskant, Moser etc.
Ofcorse every rider can retire when he wants
Edited by Guido Mukk on 06-09-2017 16:03
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| bah |
Posted on 07-09-2017 21:04
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Cannondale lives. Riders have been told their contracts are valid and there's a sponsor.
Rumours it may be Netflix.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 07-09-2017 21:09
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bah wrote:
Cannondale lives. Riders have been told their contracts are valid and there's a sponsor.
Rumours it may be Netflix.
I saw that on Reddit, but I'm not going to completely get my hopes up until they actually announce the sponsor.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 07-09-2017 21:09
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Netflix  please don't follow up with a series about JV
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 08-09-2017 01:09
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Shonak wrote:
Netflix please don't follow up with a series about JV
Narcos Season 4: The US Postal Scandal. |
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 08-09-2017 05:22
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How long till Amazon enters cycling? They have reached everywhere else!
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 08-09-2017 08:14
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Netflix & Chill Pro Cycling Team
It has a ring to it 
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| roturn |
Posted on 08-09-2017 08:18
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First of all this is great news.
Second a pity that their big talents such as Formolo, Villella, Bettiol in especially are elsewhere already.
But if they make a team around Uran and maybe Rolland, Vanmarcke with some others with potential steps such as Canty, Carthy, Dombrowski, Craddock, Howes, Phinney, Van Asbroeck, Van Baarle this would still be a nice team to follow.
If they are able to keep Woods, this would be best for them imo. But the Vuelta will see a chance for him to earn bigger money I guess. |
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 08-09-2017 08:23
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roturn wrote:
First of all this is great news.
Second a pity that their big talents such as Formolo, Villella, Bettiol in especially are elsewhere already.
But if they make a team around Uran and maybe Rolland, Vanmarcke with some others with potential steps such as Canty, Carthy, Dombrowski, Craddock, Howes, Phinney, Van Asbroeck, Van Baarle this would still be a nice team to follow.
If they are able to keep Woods, this would be best for them imo. But the Vuelta will see a chance for him to earn bigger money I guess.
Unfortunately it's too late to make any big name transfers since we're late in the season where most of the potential riders have already signed contracts. For Slipstream it will be better to keep their remaining out of contract riders like Woods and Mullen
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 09-09-2017 15:43
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EF Education First is revealed as the new title sponsor of Cannodale-Drapac
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| whitejersey |
Posted on 09-09-2017 16:24
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Also seems like they want to take control of Slipstream Sports further down to road, overall seems like a very positive outcome.
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| bassiii |
Posted on 11-09-2017 16:18
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https://twitter.c...6815730689
Totally new shirt for Movistar in 2018 + a women's team |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-09-2017 16:44
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https://www.cyclin...etirement/
Tyler Farrar retires.
It was just a matter of time I guess, but I'll never forget his win in the 2011 TDF on the 4th of July. Never. I'll never understand what happened to his sprinting legs, but at least he had his moments.
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 11-09-2017 17:31
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baseballlover312 wrote:
https://www.cyclin...etirement/
Tyler Farrar retires.
It was just a matter of time I guess, but I'll never forget his win in the 2011 TDF on the 4th of July. Never. I'll never understand what happened to his sprinting legs, but at least he had his moments.
Recently picked up that he maybe never really overcame WW's passing. Being a sprinter, couldn't it be that he unknowingly started to evade the risks that come with loads of bunch sprint finishes?
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| aldrofj |
Posted on 11-09-2017 17:36
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They put the Movistar's logo on the Astana's shirt.
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 11-09-2017 18:48
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Kiserlovski01 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
https://www.cyclin...etirement/
Tyler Farrar retires.
It was just a matter of time I guess, but I'll never forget his win in the 2011 TDF on the 4th of July. Never. I'll never understand what happened to his sprinting legs, but at least he had his moments.
Recently picked up that he maybe never really overcame WW's passing. Being a sprinter, couldn't it be that he unknowingly started to evade the risks that come with loads of bunch sprint finishes?
It's definitely possible, although he did still have a quite a few good sprints after that, he was never quite the same.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 13-09-2017 09:01
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Really interesting insight into the effect of doping, evading the authorities and the ethics and philosophy involved. Neal Rogers of Cycling Tips talking to the maker of the Icarus documentary (available exclusively on Netflix):
https://cyclingti...yan-fogel/
It's a long read or you can listen too via links on that page. These bits I found most interesting:
"I’m going to take EPO and testosterone and HGH and all this stuff. And all of the sudden, I’m just going to go out there and wow, I’m going to beat all my Strava times.” That did not happen. It did not happen.
But what did happen, which was the amazingness of it — which again, calls into the philosophical debate — was, I was recovering. The recovery was amazing. And so I would go out and train. All the same pain was there, all the same dying and all those feelings that cyclists feel when they are pushing themselves to the limit at whatever ability they are. All of that was there.
The only difference is that I could suffer and kill myself and literally go to the place that I feel like I’m going to die, but the next day, I was better able to do that.
...at the end of that first Haute Route [in 2014 before doping]...I had just destroyed myself.
...The second year [2015]...had that race gone on another week, I would have been fine. I was like, “Bring on day eight. Bring on day nine. Bring on day 10.” I was literally getting better.
I had a physiotherapist. She was working on me every night. About day four, she goes, “You know, this is kind of extraordinary. Your muscles are not deteriorating. You’re not breaking down. You’re recovering.”
...I stopped thinking that I was doing anything against the rules, because I was not only on the experiment, but just in a weird way, it was like, “Oh, my God. I’m killing myself. I’m training harder than I’ve ever tried.”
I can understand how a professional athlete, having went through this myself, I can understand how also, as a professional athlete, you would stop thinking in some ways…. You’re going, “Wait. What exactly am I doing wrong? I’m just taking something to help my body recover.”
Fascinating and the documentary gets side tracked into Russian state sponsored doping, espionage and a struggle to survive too for the Russian scientist helping him! Also he essentially wouldn't have triggered the anti doping system, including the Biological Passport (other than one questionable value) even using "old school" methods...
PCMDaily Velogames Has Been 2016 & 2017
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 13-09-2017 09:21
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Kiserlovski01 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
https://www.cyclin...etirement/
Tyler Farrar retires.
It was just a matter of time I guess, but I'll never forget his win in the 2011 TDF on the 4th of July. Never. I'll never understand what happened to his sprinting legs, but at least he had his moments.
Recently picked up that he maybe never really overcame WW's passing. Being a sprinter, couldn't it be that he unknowingly started to evade the risks that come with loads of bunch sprint finishes?
It's definitely possible, although he did still have a quite a few good sprints after that, he was never quite the same.
Was he ever really a top class sprinter? 1 TdF career stage win. Only 6 career Grand Tour stage wins.
I just think he was simply never to great a sprinter. He had a bit of success pre Cavendish, Kittel and Greiple etc nut as soon as the "golden generation" of sprinters came in he never had a chance in major sprints.
"Ringo is exactly right", Shonak - 8 September 2016
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| roturn |
Posted on 13-09-2017 09:32
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Farrar was imo a top sprinter. You don`t win 6 GT stages otherwise.
Surely he might have struggled in his prime against prime Kittel but doesn`t matter really imo. There were other sprinters at their prime in this time as well and he still got those wins. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 13-09-2017 09:32
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ringo182 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
Kiserlovski01 wrote:
baseballlover312 wrote:
https://www.cyclin...etirement/
Tyler Farrar retires.
It was just a matter of time I guess, but I'll never forget his win in the 2011 TDF on the 4th of July. Never. I'll never understand what happened to his sprinting legs, but at least he had his moments.
Recently picked up that he maybe never really overcame WW's passing. Being a sprinter, couldn't it be that he unknowingly started to evade the risks that come with loads of bunch sprint finishes?
It's definitely possible, although he did still have a quite a few good sprints after that, he was never quite the same.
Was he ever really a top class sprinter? 1 TdF career stage win. Only 6 career Grand Tour stage wins.
I just think he was simply never to great a sprinter. He had a bit of success pre Cavendish, Kittel and Greiple etc nut as soon as the "golden generation" of sprinters came in he never had a chance in major sprints.
He had his peak right when Cav had his own, and Cav at his peak is a top 5 sprinter of all time. Farrar wasn't quite that, and kind of lived in the Brit's shadow imo, and then he simply started getting worse. For a period he was the 2nd best sprinter in the Pro Tour.
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