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Posted on 06-12-2025 23:17
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| markene2 |
Posted on 17-06-2017 13:03
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Jarci wrote:
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I actually like it a lot and especially new downhill stat is actually doing something not like in the last versions and its important to have good downhill stat now
No problem with the DH stat just find the new cam messy
Also i have played a bit and i am noticing the pathfinding during races is much worse in this verision. No idea how they managed that, mountain stages are fun though, but the pathfinding between riders is gotten so bad that you almost have to be up front the entire race. |
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| jakobbe |
Posted on 17-06-2017 14:09
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Other than me who have tried that a lot of riders come together at the finish line on mountain stages? For example stage 4 in Tour de Suisse ended with a sprint between 50 riders... |
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| Jarci |
Posted on 17-06-2017 14:30
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I feel like sprint stat is a lot less important. Iam playing carrer for orica made a train in flat stage with ewan as a main sprinter and adam yates behind him just to be safe in front but yates doesnt have any problem to stay on his wheel when ewan is going full gas in last km and i actually won a one flat stage with adam yates |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 17-06-2017 14:38
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Jarci wrote:
I actually like it a lot and especially new downhill stat is actually doing something not like in the last versions and its important to have good downhill stat now
Really? Me and a lot others are finding that it's a lot harder to escape downhill, and bars even recharge while you're on the maximum dot. It was a lot better last year.
I feel like sprint stat is a lot less important. Iam playing carrer for orica made a train in flat stage with ewan as a main sprinter and adam yates behind him just to be safe in front but yates doesnt have any problem to stay on his wheel when ewan is going full gas in last km and i actually won a one flat stage with adam yates
Heard Cyanide is working on this.
Other than me who have tried that a lot of riders come together at the finish line on mountain stages? For example stage 4 in Tour de Suisse ended with a sprint between 50 riders...
I've been seeing this in PCM 16, not in PCM 17. Cyanide's db is bound to suck for selection since riders are so close together for stats, so maybe try another db such as the Daily Lite Pack and see if this changes.
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| Jarci |
Posted on 17-06-2017 14:53
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matt17br wrote:
I actually like it a lot and especially new downhill stat is actually doing something not like in the last versions and its important to have good downhill stat now
Really? Me and a lot others are finding that it's a lot harder to escape downhill, and bars even recharge while you're on the maximum dot. It was a lot better last year.
It depends a lot on rider i was trying Nibali in one mountain stage with big downhill at the end of the stage and made almost a minute gap in downhill till the end but yea i could go on 99effort and his bar was refilling, with some riders its going down for example on 80effort but personaly i like it more than in the earlier versions where i couldnt make a gap with good downhiller for example on zakarin etc because my bar drops down fast and doesnt matter how much downhill stat i had |
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| Forza-Diavolo |
Posted on 17-06-2017 15:28
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 17-06-2017 15:36
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Sounds like another great addition to PCM series. All the bugs will be fixed, dont worry...in next patch after baguettes have their 2 months long holiday...which will broke more things than it fixed.
"Cyanide is working on that" is phrase of the century...you would think that Yates outsprinting Ewan could be actually noticed in development or beta-test. No, people never learn.
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| federicoz |
Posted on 17-06-2017 16:39
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I hate the new mountain cam?? there is a way to distance the cam? |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 17-06-2017 16:49
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Yes, you need to press Alt and use your mouse wheel.
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| clamel |
Posted on 17-06-2017 23:13
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MacC wrote:
Came home from the pub last night and bought it!
Let's see
Now that's how to do it, by the sounds of SOOOO much critics.
Have this game gone so bad ????
Perhaps my fears that now we go total Arcade style.
Have not yet had a BIG pub night, so not enough to jump on this cranking band wagon and buy it. By the sounds on this website the wheels coming off PCM17.
Need to hear a lot of more good things and improvements, or this Cyanide company looks to be sinking.
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| dalia |
Posted on 18-06-2017 11:44
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I stay on 2016, the news are not, IA doesn't use "train" and she is very strange this year, i prefer 2016 career, it's more fun, in 17 IA is same all time, breakaway go, peloton wait un til it has 5-6 min and IA go fast.
One year in PRO, no breakaway gone !!! Mountain, hill etc... |
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| boork |
Posted on 18-06-2017 12:03
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People are always complaining when a new PCM comes out. It was the same 5+ years ago, and it will probably never change. The same people who say that PCM 15 or PCM 14 or PCM 11 are better in this thread, are probably the same who complained about thsoe games when they came out. Same thing goes for a forum I am on for Football Manager.
I am enjoying the game. I am playing Be a Pro mode. Even seen Breakaways with me, and without me, hold to the line a few times, so I would say that those who complain about that part are wrong. |
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| boassonhagen01 |
Posted on 18-06-2017 18:01
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I completely skipped PCM 2016, but now I'm watching gameplay of PCM 2017 and I notice something that wasn't there in PCM 2015 yet. I mean the three lines next to the yellow and red bars. At some riders, the middle one in white, while at others the upper or lower one was white. So what does this mean?
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This is what I mean:
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| cio93 |
Posted on 18-06-2017 18:06
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It's been there since at least 16. It indicates which part of the group a rider is currently riding in. Upper line means the front, bottom line means the back.
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| Jeff_J |
Posted on 18-06-2017 19:57
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Several races don't give CWT points for teams but only for riders. For example "Omloops last news" or "Paris - Nice" points are given to riders but don't add up to team total. This result in the wrong teams to relegate. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 18-06-2017 20:02
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Heck, I'm pretty sure it was there in even older PCMs in a different style. Something like from PCM 10 on.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 18-06-2017 20:17
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Jeff_J wrote:
Several races don't give CWT points for teams but only for riders. For example "Omloops last news" or "Paris - Nice" points are given to riders but don't add up to team total. This result in the wrong teams to relegate.
Are you sure those riders are among the 5 best points scorers of their respective teams? Only those are used for the team classification.
matt17br wrote:
Heck, I'm pretty sure it was there in even older PCMs in a different style. Something like from PCM 10 on.
I'm pretty sure too but I didn't want to give any false information that nobody even asked for specifically.
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| Jeff_J |
Posted on 18-06-2017 20:20
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Jeff_J wrote:
Several races don't give CWT points for teams but only for riders. For example "Omloops last news" or "Paris - Nice" points are given to riders but don't add up to team total. This result in the wrong teams to relegate.
Are you sure those riders are among the 5 best points scorers of their respective teams? Only those are used for the team classification.
Yes i am sure they are in the top 5 best point scorers of their team.
For example Trek relegated with only 400 points while Contador + Mollema had 4000 points together. |
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| Oggmeista |
Posted on 20-06-2017 06:14
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Ok first of all the game a much improved from last years game, whilst i will critizise whats poor I also applaud and praise when i see positive improvements, i particualr the return and improvement of the replay feature, which whilst not perfect is needed and it's great to see it now..
Ok i have a few points to the first is imho a fundemental error in the logic ok the is the scenario were in a breakaway and i'm following the AI's pace my heatrate is 135 and im not taking a turn to relay (pull at the front) the gap to the pack is increasing, then suddenly it starts decreasing very slowly
SO i change mode to relay push the pace to 80+ heartbeat increases to 165+ we are travelling faster and instead of the gap increasing it is decreasing why?, the peleton are not driving at this pace, immidiately and yet it's as if my pace at the front is slow and that the rate chosen makes no difference...this is wrong....my guess is this doesn't even check your speed it's just a set of triggers (scripts) which decide the AI's pace, this is NOT how things work in reality....
Second point is not a bug as such but an suggestion to the logic, concerning relaying again when you want the AI to relay you cannot just set a pace and expect the AI to agree eg say i want to relay up a hill @70 and the suggested speed is between 45-55 if i go ahead i will do all the work the AI will just sit in behind...Now this is where i believe the current logical is wrong, in the reverse scenario and the AI wants you to relay if you don't comply the rate at which the AI is happy increases...Why is this?, surely the AI wants you to relay so in order to convince you it needs to decrease it's asking rate not increase, the same logic which you would use has to apply to the AI in short it is the riders who are refusing to relay which call the shots up to a point at least, if after comprimising and your still not accepting to work, then it can look to attack and break the tow, provided that it doesn't exceed the parameters of the particular #ai riders statistics...if individual riders statistics are being calculated in the game like they should be..
i need to stress I havn't played a full season yet and therefore don't know how the AI react when your a fav so there maybe other mechanics i don't agree with, last year virtually no AI riders would relay with you if you was a top classification rider, when really only the riders in teams which are also challenging for the standings would refuse to work....other teams are looking to benefit from relaying as much as you are, so this was wrong, but may of been changed this year, as i said not as yet in a position to test this... |
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| Forza-Diavolo |
Posted on 03-07-2017 15:00
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Now I have run a Tour de France all stages.
Seems there are more crashes than usual, but seems okay in relation to reality.
The time difference has also improved in GC. Before, there could be 10-12 minutes between 1 and 2
Sorry for my bad English
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