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| matt17br |
Posted on 16-03-2017 11:39
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To be fair, 2016 was highly influenced by Gaviria's crash just a few hundred metres from the finish. Sagan was literally right behind him and I'm sure he would have a had a chance if it wasn't for that.
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 16-03-2017 13:09
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Just a question ? It seems like so many think this Gaviria (a rider i honestly know very little about) should be a top top favorite, but why.
I don't find anything in his result list to justify such optimism, he is young and he has won stages, even some (few) WT stages: But from that to Milan - San Remo ?
Is there anything about this particular race profile and other stuff, that i have missed.?
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| matt17br |
Posted on 16-03-2017 13:15
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Last year he was looking really, really good. It was his first monument and he was coming from a great Tirreno - Adriatico and some other minor wins, and he was keeping himself in the first positions of the peloton for the entirety of the last part of the race. Then he crashed.
Add that 1 year experience is now on his side and he's in great shape, and he has to be held in high regard among the favourites.
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 16-03-2017 13:21
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-03-2017 13:21
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Tamijo wrote:
Just a question ? It seems like so many think this Gaviria (a rider i honestly know very little about) should be a top top favorite, but why.
I don't find anything in his result list to justify such optimism, he is young and he has won stages, even some (few) WT stages: But from that to Milan - San Remo ?
Is there anything about this particular race profile and other stuff, that i have missed.?
Results don't say everything, you actually need to watch races. He could've won San Remo last year as well, if he didn't crash. And did you watch Paris-Tours last year? He won it with an incredible attack/sprint. He has a very good spint, can take a short hill and his team is one of the strongest in the race. Basicaly, he has everything you need to win this race.
Sagan remains the race favourite for me though, but Gaviria definitely has a shot. We may overhype him a bit though, for me it's just awesome to hear a Colombian rider say he wants to win classics.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 16-03-2017 14:29
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Ollfardh wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
Just a question ? It seems like so many think this Gaviria (a rider i honestly know very little about) should be a top top favorite, but why.
I don't find anything in his result list to justify such optimism, he is young and he has won stages, even some (few) WT stages: But from that to Milan - San Remo ?
Is there anything about this particular race profile and other stuff, that i have missed.?
We may overhype him a bit though,
Understatement of the year 
I personally don't see him win. Paris-Tours was impressive, but let's not forget that that race didn't have riders like Sagan, Kristoff and Degenkolb, and a weaker pack meaning less control. These riders all have a bigger track record in a race like this. And even if he hadn't crashed, it's not sure he would've won, after all Sagan went down with him.
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-03-2017 14:32
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Selwink wrote:
Ollfardh wrote:
Tamijo wrote:
Just a question ? It seems like so many think this Gaviria (a rider i honestly know very little about) should be a top top favorite, but why.
I don't find anything in his result list to justify such optimism, he is young and he has won stages, even some (few) WT stages: But from that to Milan - San Remo ?
Is there anything about this particular race profile and other stuff, that i have missed.?
We may overhype him a bit though,
Understatement of the year
I personally don't see him win. Paris-Tours was impressive, but let's not forget that that race didn't have riders like Sagan, Kristoff and Degenkolb, and a weaker pack meaning less control. These riders all have a bigger track record in a race like this. And even if he hadn't crashed, it's not sure he would've won, after all Sagan went down with him.
I never said he would've won, but he definitely could have. Just being where he was was an achievement at such a young age.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 16-03-2017 15:50
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matt17br wrote:
To be fair, 2016 was highly influenced by Gaviria's crash just a few hundred metres from the finish. Sagan was literally right behind him and I'm sure he would have a had a chance if it wasn't for that.
Yes absolutely, and I think Bouhani lost his chain last year too. My point is strange things happen to the legs after 300km followed by an instense finale, meaning the theoretically slower finishers have half a chance.
Of course the other thing is Sagan appears to be quicker than ever in a flat sprint this year (not that he's been slow elsewhere mind!).
That said I'm going for Colbrelli and a home win for the first time in a decade.
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 16-03-2017 16:09
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@Ollfardh
I am aware result dosent tell the full story - thats is why I asked, and no sadly I did not follow that many races last year.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 16-03-2017 19:51
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20 heretics so far. Shocked.  #Believe
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 16-03-2017 20:16
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Wbeimar Gaviria will win MSR before that overhyped cousin does.
Calling it now.
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| georgebooo |
Posted on 16-03-2017 21:23
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Sagan will win this year's MSR. |
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| Paul23 |
Posted on 16-03-2017 21:54
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Tony is not in the startlist. He could've won it.
Damn Katusha...
I hope for Degenkolb, Gaviria or Cavendish, but I think with Sagan it depends on his daily form. He's the man to beat, but it wouldn't surprise me, to see him getting dropped.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 16-03-2017 21:54
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Alakagom wrote:
Wbeimar Gaviria will win MSR before that overhyped cousin does.
Calling it now.
5 bucks on Fernando or neither.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 16-03-2017 21:56
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Alakagom wrote:
Wbeimar Gaviria will win MSR before that overhyped cousin does.
Calling it now.
Please no |
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| Aquarius97 |
Posted on 16-03-2017 22:11
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Paul23 wrote:
Tony is not in the startlist. He could've won it.
Damn Katusha...
I hope for Degenkolb, Gaviria or Cavendish, but I think with Sagan it depends on his daily form. He's the man to beat, but it wouldn't surprise me, to see him getting dropped.
Dropped in the Poggio? Seriously?
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 16-03-2017 22:41
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The question is if Gaviria will be able to sprint against Marc Madiot and the FDJ team car after 291 km. Other than that, I have no questions that he will win. |
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| Kiserlovski01 |
Posted on 17-03-2017 10:11
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 17-03-2017 10:28
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And so the mind games begin 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 17-03-2017 10:37
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Hopefully just a bit of an MJ fan otherwise rubbish timing, thanks for the link btw.
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