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| trekbmc |
Posted on 09-03-2017 15:42
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I love how Kwiatek races!  It's amazing to have him attack so often, and even when it fails - 2nd place. Third in GC is wonderful too!
Thank you very much bikex! 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 09-03-2017 18:54
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First 2 stages of the most important U23 race of the season posted: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1226351
The next race after this will be the Quebec Sprint Challenge, I have already made the draw for the matchups:
System:
Spoiler | Round 1 | | | Round of 32 | | | Quarterfinal | | | Semfinal | | | Final | | | A | | | A | | | A | | | A | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | Pot 1 | | | R32 A 1st | | | QF A 1st | | SF A 1st | | | Pot 4 | | | Pot 2 | | | R32 E 1st | | | QF C 1st | | SF B 1st | | | Pot 5 | | | R1 A 1st | | | R32 C 2nd | | | QF B 2nd | | SF A 2nd | | | Pot 6 | | | R1 B 2nd | | | R32 G 2nd | | | QF D 2nd | | SF B 2nd | | B | | | B | | | B | | | B | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | Pot 1 | | | R32 C 1st | | | QF B 1st | | | | | Pot 4 | | | Pot 2 | | | R32 G 1st | | | QF D 1st | | | | | Pot 5 | | | R1 B 1st | | | R32 A 2nd | | | QF A 2nd | | | | | Pot 6 | | | R1 A 2nd | | | R32 E 2nd | | | QF C 2nd | | | | C | | | C | | | C | | | | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | Pot 1 | | | R32 B 1st | | | | | | | | Pot 4 | | | Pot 2 | | | R32 F 1st | | | | | | | | Pot 5 | | | R1 C 1st | | | R32 D 2nd | | | | | | | | Pot 6 | | | Pot 3 | | | R32 H 2nd | | | | | | | D | | | D | | | D | | | | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | Pot 1 | | | R32 D 1st | | | | | | | | Pot 4 | | | Pot 2 | | | R32 H 1st | | | | | | | | Pot 5 | | | Pot 3 | | | R32 B 2nd | | | | | | | | Pot 6 | | | R1 C 2nd | | | R32 F 2nd | | | | | | | E | | | E | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | Pot 1 | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 4 | | | Pot 2 | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 5 | | | R1 D 1st | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 6 | | | R1 E 2nd | | | | | | | | | | F | | | F | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | Pot 1 | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 4 | | | Pot 2 | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 5 | | | R1 E 1st | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 6 | | | R1 D 2nd | | | | | | | | | | | | | G | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | R1 F 1st | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | | | | | | | | | | | H | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 1 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 2 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Pot 3 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | R 1 F 2nd | | | | | | | | |
Pots
Spoiler | Pot 1 | | | | Marcel Kittel | CarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight | | Danny Van Poppel | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | | John Degenkolb | Celesio Pro Cycling | | Nacer Bouhanni | Team Peugeot | | Arnaud Demare | The Spark Project p/b Bollé | | Andrew Fenn | Team Cymru Wales | | André Greipel | Allianz Cycling Team | | Tyler Farrar | Fast N' Loud Cycling Project | | Pot 2 | | | | Julian Alaphilippe | Leopard - Evonik Pro Cycling | | Gerald Ciolek | CarbonSports Cycling - Lightweight | | Matthew Goss | Feryn Bikes | | Elia Viviani | Italo - Ventilair | | Bryan Coquard | Allianz Cycling Team | | Andrea Guardini | Saeco - Cannondale | | Leigh Howard | Fast N' Loud Cycling Project | | Giacomo Nizzolo | SAP - Bianchi | | Pot 3 | | | | Adam Blythe | Suntory Lucozade Sport | | Sonny Colbrelli | Team Alitalia | | Luke Rowe | Team Cymru Wales | | Michael Matthews | Suntory Lucozade Sport | | Dylan Groenewegen | Leopard - Evonik Pro Cycling | | Adrien Petit | Team Peugeot | | Davide Cimolai | Saeco - Cannondale | | Romain Feillu | The Spark Project p/b Bollé | | Tom Veelers | SAP - Bianchi | | Frederique Robert | Feryn Bikes | | Pot 4 | | | | Wouter Wippert | Filliers - Mora Pro Cycling Team | | Theo Bos | TVM Cycling Team | | Guillaume Boivin | Sugoi - Xanterra | | Marco Haller | Italo - Ventilair | | Moreno Hofland | Team Heineken - Shell | | Daniel McLay | Bunzl - Centrica | | Pot 5 | | | | Elmar Reinders | TVM Cycling Team | | Nikias Arndt | Celesio Pro Cycling | | Asbjørn Kragh | Team Alitalia | | Yoeri Havik | Team Heineken - Shell | | Owain Doull | Bunzl - Centrica | | Andreas Hofer | Vegeta Cycling Team | | Pot 6 | | | | Haritz Orbe | Illes Balears | | Yukiya Arashiro | ICBC Cycling Team | | Sam Bassetti | Sugoi - Xanterra | | Luigi Cabras | Vegeta Cycling Team | | Nicolas Dorado | Illes Balears | | Shahrizal Shafeeq | ICBC Cycling Team |
Draw
Spoiler | Round 1: | A | | Round of 32: | A | | | | Davide Cimolai | | | Danny Van Poppel | | | Marco Haller | | | Bryan Coquard | | | Owain Doull | | | | | | Yukiya Arashiro | | | | | B | | | B | | | | Tom Veelers | | | Andrew Fenn | | | Daniel McLay | | | Gerald Ciolek | | | Andreas Hofer | | | | | | Sam Bassetti | | | | | C | | | C | | | | Dylan Groenewegen | | | Nacer Bouhanni | | | Wouter Wippert | | | Julian Alaphilippe | | | Asbjørn Kragh | | | | | | Haritz Orbe | | | Sonny Colbrelli | | D | | | D | | | | Adrien Petit | | | John Degenkolb | | | Guillaume Boivin | | | Leigh Howard | | | Elmar Reinders | | | Michael Matthews | | | Nicolas Dorado | | | | | E | | | E | | | | Luke Rowe | | | Arnaud Demare | | | Theo Bos | | | Matthew Goss | | | Yoeri Havik | | | | | | Luigi Cabras | | | | | F | | | F | | | | Romain Feillu | | | Tyler Farrar | | | Moreno Hofland | | | Giacomo Nizzolo | | | Nikias Arndt | | | | | | Shahrizal Shafeeq | | | | | | | | G | | | | | | | André Greipel | | | | | | Andrea Guardini | | | | | | | | | | | | Adam Blythe | | | | | H | | | | | | | Marcel Kittel | | | | | | Elia Viviani | | | | | | Frederique Robert | | | | | | |
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| knockout |
Posted on 09-03-2017 19:40
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Damn it. Ciolek and Kittel look set for a quarterfinal group which would be a major disadvantage. We should think about how we can avoid team mates from going against each other as long as possible for future seasons...
Avenir starts good for VW.
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| DaveTwoBob |
Posted on 09-03-2017 20:57
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Good attacking riding from Bardet to hang on to 2nd place, Chevrier won the Young Riders so pleasing result, but the sprinters were a bit of a disappointment ...
... and a chance for them to repeat that disappointment in the Sprint Challenge (Cav being banned from this race after going out in the first round!).
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 09-03-2017 21:01
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Good 4th place for Mapemba in the Avenir prologue.
Nice draw as well for us in Quebec with Nizzolo and Veelers split up possibly to the Semi's if I read it right  Love the format of this race though, thanks bikex!
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 09-03-2017 23:34
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knockout wrote:
Damn it. Ciolek and Kittel look set for a quarterfinal group which would be a major disadvantage. We should think about how we can avoid team mates from going against each other as long as possible for future seasons...
Same from me here, it looks like Groenewegen and Alaphilippe clashing already in the Round of 32 which would be a sad thing
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| Bikex |
Posted on 10-03-2017 14:40
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Stages 3+4 of Avenir and first round of Quebec Sprint Challenge posted: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1226351
About the draw: I know it's not ideal for some teams to have their riders clash early already, but it is impossible to make sure this doesn't happen in any case before the semifinals. I checked that it wouldn't happen in the first round this time, next year I maybe can also ensure team mates won't clash in the Round of 32 as well, but after that it will always be possible. Also for most teams it's no big disadvantage anyways to have riders compete against each other, as anyways 2 proceed to the next round. |
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 10-03-2017 14:44
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indeed, after that no-show of Groenewegen I've seen that my fears were for no reason...bye bye points here
Geissler has taken in some form in this race 
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| matt17br |
Posted on 10-03-2017 14:55
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Kragh and Colbrelli in the same group, hopefully my Dane talent can lead Sonny out? He is in good shape right now.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 10-03-2017 14:57
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matt17br wrote:
Kragh and Colbrelli in the same group, hopefully my Dane talent can lead Sonny out? He is in good shape right now.
No that won't happen. They are put in different teams on the startlist.  |
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| knockout |
Posted on 10-03-2017 17:25
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Bikex wrote:
matt17br wrote:
Kragh and Colbrelli in the same group, hopefully my Dane talent can lead Sonny out? He is in good shape right now.
No that won't happen. They are put in different teams on the startlist.
Good to know. Always thought that would not be the case :
@Croatia : Geissler is a beast 
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| brewers90 |
Posted on 10-03-2017 21:29
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McLay actually made it through. Better than last year when he miraculously DNF'd. 
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| Bikex |
Posted on 13-03-2017 19:20
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Sorry for the lack of race results posted on the weekend, but I'm back at it, stages 5+6 of Avenir and Quarterfinal of Quebec SC posted: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1226351 |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-03-2017 19:26
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Good performances by Cuadros and Pulido in Avenir, glad to see them continue the strong dynamic approach of VDP and navarro of previous seasons. thanks bikex!
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| matt17br |
Posted on 13-03-2017 19:39
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Wowzers, Colbrelli really impressing me right there. Glad he can advance and have a chance in the quarter finals. Thanks Bikex!
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| Croatia14 |
Posted on 13-03-2017 19:49
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WHAT THE FUCK ALAPHILIPPE!?!
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| knockout |
Posted on 13-03-2017 20:54
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Damn it. Ciolek going up against Kittel must be the hardest possible draw for him.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 13-03-2017 21:03
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Wow, both Nizzolo and Veelers lost in the first round.
Thanks bikex!
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 13-03-2017 21:03
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Excellent win by Jens Dumont, he might become my best rider ever!
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Bikex |
Posted on 14-03-2017 22:01
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Last 2 Avenir stages + Quarterfinal: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1226425 |
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