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News in October
Choklets
No more swiss teams in cycling!!! Nope, BMC is considered an american one.
Huge blow for the fans but even worse for young swiss riders!
 
ivaneurope
Croatia14 wrote:
Team Roth disbands Sad huge shocker for me as they did some decent work to build up a good PCT team, and did some nice developement with Pasqualon, Page, Jaun and some other guys...the market for additions would've been good this year, but similar to Stölting they suffered from a sponsor that took back their agreement on financial halp which led to debts with 6 numbers. Shame Sad


Their season was mediocre to begin with - along with Verva and Funvic
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Avin Wargunnson
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I will miss this crazy guy. Grin

Spot on with Contador!


I will not miss him. Good to get him finally away from cycling..and please stay away this time.

We know you wont miss him Guido. Grin

But i have bad news for you, Tinkov already said that he will return with another project afte the end of "Froome era" at the Tour. That he will rest now with family and then return to cycling. Lets hope it is true, for those of us who dont have a problem with his honesty and passion for cycling.

Btw. Tinkoff team had a farewell party (without Contador) and Sagan said after it that he is sad to see the end of the wonderful project he was part of for two years. He is grateful to Oleg and says he would not reached the heights he had without him.
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ringo182
Seems the Russian Government/"Fancy Bears" have been doctoring some of the stolen data they have been releasing.
https://www.bbc.co...t/37570246
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ringo182
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
I will miss this crazy guy. Grin

Spot on with Contador!


I will not miss him. Good to get him finally away from cycling..and please stay away this time.

We know you wont miss him Guido. Grin

But i have bad news for you, Tinkov already said that he will return with another project afte the end of "Froome era" at the Tour.


He'll be just in time for the Yates Brothers era at Sky then Smile
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Croatia14
Choklets wrote:
No more swiss teams in cycling!!! Nope, BMC is considered an american one.
Huge blow for the fans but even worse for young swiss riders!


Roth will start an U23/developement team though, captained by Bisseger
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Kiserlovski01
Rodrigo Contreras dissolves his contract with Etixx and returns to Colombia.
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TheManxMissile
Kiserlovski01 wrote:
Rodrigo Contreras dissolves his contract with Etixx and returns to Colombia.


Just looked at his results. Apart from San Luis, he finished inside the Top50 just once! DNF'd 13 out of 16 races (including San Luis, which he didn't finish). Certainly one of the worst performances i've sever seen from a WT rider, gg Contreras Pfft
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Selwink
Didn't help that he crash out of San Luis with a knee injury. May have messed up his entire season in the end.

Edit: Never thought I'd ever be defending an Etixx rider Pfft
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the_hoyle
ringo182 wrote:
Seems the Russian Government/"Fancy Bears" have been doctoring some of the stolen data they have been releasing.
https://www.bbc.co...t/37570246

I think you will find it say the reports may have been doctored... Of course WADA are going to say that in order to keep some credibility with this. The reaction of certain riders shows that the information was correct enough

You keep clutching at those straws ringo...
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Avin Wargunnson
the_hoyle wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Seems the Russian Government/"Fancy Bears" have been doctoring some of the stolen data they have been releasing.
https://www.bbc.co...t/37570246

I think you will find it say the reports may have been doctored... Of course WADA are going to say that in order to keep some credibility with this. The reaction of certain riders shows that the information was correct enough

You keep clutching at those straws ringo...

Yeah, was going to say something similar. Of course WADA will try to hinder the credibility of those leaked/hacked data...
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Kiserlovski01
Selwink wrote:
Didn't help that he crash out of San Luis with a knee injury. May have messed up his entire season in the end.

Edit: Never thought I'd ever be defending an Etixx rider Pfft


On top of that, he's said to have had a too hard time adapting to the European lifestyle.

Source (Spanish)
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ringo182
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
the_hoyle wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
Seems the Russian Government/"Fancy Bears" have been doctoring some of the stolen data they have been releasing.
https://www.bbc.co...t/37570246

I think you will find it say the reports may have been doctored... Of course WADA are going to say that in order to keep some credibility with this. The reaction of certain riders shows that the information was correct enough

You keep clutching at those straws ringo...

Yeah, was going to say something similar. Of course WADA will try to hinder the credibility of those leaked/hacked data...


Why am I clutching at straws. I'm passing on some "News in October". I didn't actually say anything for or against the article.
I certainly never said it changes anything. All the people named have used TUEs. There's no denying that (not that it's illegal or against any rules).
What it proves is that these hackers who claim to be doing this purely for the good of sport have actually changed documents to suit their own objectives. I doubt very much WADA would lie and say some of the information has been altered when it hasn't. Why would they do that? Nothing that has been leaked incriminates anyone as doing anything illegal.
Your basically saying that a group of illegal hackers can be trusted more than the world agency for drug testing. Talk about conspiracy theories.
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TheManxMissile
Yes, there's no way the authorities are corrupt!

*No Lance, you be quiet over there!* *Verbruggen, put that money back* *Blatter, where did you get that watch?* *Government, noooooooo*
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Avin Wargunnson
TheManxMissile wrote:
Yes, there's no way the authorities are corrupt!

*No Lance, you be quiet over there!* *Verbruggen, put that money back* *Blatter, where did you get that watch?* *Government, noooooooo*

You crazy?

Bad bad illegal hackers always lie, while authorities are always right, as they are paid from taxes and represent us, the honest people of Earth!
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Croatia14
Selwink wrote:
Didn't help that he crash out of San Luis with a knee injury. May have messed up his entire season in the end.

Edit: Never thought I'd ever be defending an Etixx rider Pfft


well the typical "he's there to be Gaviria's buddy" signing that football has consistently...
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ringo182
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Yes, there's no way the authorities are corrupt!

*No Lance, you be quiet over there!* *Verbruggen, put that money back* *Blatter, where did you get that watch?* *Government, noooooooo*

You crazy?

Bad bad illegal hackers always lie, while authorities are always right, as they are paid from taxes and represent us, the honest people of Earth!


So you're saying hackers who are illegally hacking files releasing data to try to justify Russian State Sponsored Doping can be trusted more that a World Governing Body?
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Avin Wargunnson
ringo182 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Yes, there's no way the authorities are corrupt!

*No Lance, you be quiet over there!* *Verbruggen, put that money back* *Blatter, where did you get that watch?* *Government, noooooooo*

You crazy?

Bad bad illegal hackers always lie, while authorities are always right, as they are paid from taxes and represent us, the honest people of Earth!


So you're saying hackers who are illegally hacking files releasing data to try to justify Russian State Sponsored Doping can be trusted more that a World Governing Body?

No, i dont judge like you do, i am just saying that what you imply (hackers=lie, governing body=truth) is naive and wrong from the base. But it fits in your style. Smile
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matt17br
Croatia14 wrote:
Selwink wrote:
Didn't help that he crash out of San Luis with a knee injury. May have messed up his entire season in the end.

Edit: Never thought I'd ever be defending an Etixx rider Pfft


well the typical "he's there to be Gaviria's buddy" signing that football has consistently...

He definitely was gavirias buddy but he certainly wasn't a Juraj kinda signing. Contreras has shown both in San Luis both last few years in the south American domestic scene he was a good talent. Heck he had good results as an etixx stagiare too.
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Avin Wargunnson
matt17br wrote:
Croatia14 wrote:
Selwink wrote:
Didn't help that he crash out of San Luis with a knee injury. May have messed up his entire season in the end.

Edit: Never thought I'd ever be defending an Etixx rider Pfft


well the typical "he's there to be Gaviria's buddy" signing that football has consistently...

He definitely was gavirias buddy but he certainly wasn't a Juraj kinda signing. Contreras has shown both in San Luis both last few years in the Colombian domestic scene he was a good talent.

Juraj actually developed into quality rider, he was maybe the best cobbled domestique this year for his brother...but yeah, it was not like that always especially in Liquigas, he just got better recently.
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