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| udoi |
Posted on 11-09-2016 20:32
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Explain to me what is the relationship between Festina, R.M.O and PDM?
Since they're in a unique team. |
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| the_hoyle |
Posted on 11-09-2016 21:48
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udoi wrote:
Explain to me what is the relationship between Festina, R.M.O and PDM?
Since they're in a unique team.
PDM were bought by Festina, and a lot of the staff and riders rode for RMO and Festina. All the teams are linked...
Source: This magical thing called google!
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| udoi |
Posted on 12-09-2016 00:08
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I checked memoire du cyclisme (web) and you're right, you never stop learning. |
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| Barrio Jr |
Posted on 13-09-2016 17:57
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hello I love that idea db is known for when it will be thanks |
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| Barrio Jr |
Posted on 16-09-2016 09:57
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ahi avances en la db legends return tengo muchas ganas de probarla para cuando estaria la db muchas gracias hacer un trabajo tan increible de verdad  |
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| Barrio Jr |
Posted on 16-09-2016 09:58
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There advance in the db legends return I have many desires of proving it for when estaria the db thank you very much to do such an incredible work indeed |
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 19-09-2016 10:50
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TOP 10 BEST ...
Climbers :
Spoiler Federico Bahamontes
René Vietto
Gino Bartali
Charly Gaul
Lucien Van Impe
Luis Herrera
Marco Pantani
Alberto Contador
Alfredo Binda
Fausto Coppi
Cobbles specialists :
Spoiler Roger De Vlaeminck
Octave Lapize
Tom Boonen
Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle
Johan Museeuw
Eddy Merckx
Francesco Moser
Rik Van Looy
Briek Schotte
Gaston Rebry
ITT specialists :
Spoiler Jacques Anquetil
Miguel Indurain
Eddy Merckx
Fabian Cancellara
Bernard Hinault
Roger Rivière
Francesco Moser
Fausto Coppi
Rudi Altig
Maurice Archambaud
Sprinters :
Spoiler Mario Cipollini
Mark Cavendish
Erik Zabel
Djamolidine Abdoujaparov
Alessandro Petacchi
Rik Van Looy
Freddy Maertens
Olaf Ludwig
Robbie McEwen
André Darrigade
Hill specialists :
Spoiler Eddy Merckx
Costante Girardengo
Moreno Argentin
Rik Van Looy
Sean Kelly
Bernard Hinault
Fred De Bruyne
Paolo Bettini
Claude Criquielion
Michele Bartoli |
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| Alepere_7 |
Posted on 19-09-2016 21:28
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denismenchov08 wrote:
Referendum : who deserves to enter the DB, knowing that she has not been updated since 2011? Take into account the regularity, performance and reputation.
Here is my list, I wait for yours :
Nairo Quintana
Christopher Froome
André Greipel
Peter Sagan
Michael Rasmussen (forgot it at the time, although I could have done without him...)
John Degenkolb
Alexander Kristoff
Simon Gerrans
Daniel Martin
Michał Kwiatkowski
Rui Costa
Vasil Kiryienka
Michele Scarponi
Marcel Kittel
How can you name all of those names and forget Vincenzo Nibali??!!!??? Quintana isnt even a half of lo squalo |
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Posted on 21-11-2024 20:16
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| Alepere_7 |
Posted on 19-09-2016 21:31
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Great idea! That's a incredible work I can't wait to play with this db.
Cyclist like Merckx or Hinault should have almost every stat over 80, how will you manage that? |
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 20-09-2016 08:19
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Saint-Raphaël - Helyett - Hutchinson
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 20-09-2016 08:25
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Alepere_7 wrote:
denismenchov08 wrote:
Referendum : who deserves to enter the DB, knowing that she has not been updated since 2011? Take into account the regularity, performance and reputation.
Here is my list, I wait for yours :
Nairo Quintana
Christopher Froome
André Greipel
Peter Sagan
Michael Rasmussen (forgot it at the time, although I could have done without him...)
John Degenkolb
Alexander Kristoff
Simon Gerrans
Daniel Martin
Michał Kwiatkowski
Rui Costa
Vasil Kiryienka
Michele Scarponi
Marcel Kittel
How can you name all of those names and forget Vincenzo Nibali??!!!??? Quintana isnt even a half of lo squalo
Nibali was already in the DB in 2011 !
And for Merckx or Hinault, in comparison with other riders they are not the best in all fields (except Merckx in hills) but they are the best on average.
For example Hinault climbed less good than Lucho Herrera but regarding ITT Hinault beat him easily. |
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 20-09-2016 11:13
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Toshiba - La Vie Claire
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| Humlesnur |
Posted on 20-09-2016 16:21
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Looks amazing. I'am stoked to play with this database. The distribution of stats for historical riders is truly a daunting task and I commend you for your effort and times spent on this project.
As for the hill specialist I am sure you already considered this, but I can't help but feel that Rebellin and Gilbert deserve to be among the best owing to their incredible Ardennes triples. Maybe I am just overemphasising the significance of that exploit, but in my mind it stands out as the epitome of a puncher.
Regardless, riders like Gilbert and Bettini are probably not going to have much of a chance in the hilly classics (apart from Amstel, possibly) in a database like this with so many strong climbers due to the changes in climbing making the Mountain stat too significant. |
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 21-09-2016 08:46
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I agree with you but Philippe Gilbert has 80 in hills and Rebellin 79. They can easily compete with other big hill specialists.
EDIT : maximum statistic for each characteristic is 82. |
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| Humlesnur |
Posted on 21-09-2016 09:29
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I see. I understand the reasoning for not having too high stats as it gets rather pointless if everybody has 85 in everything, but the danger of low stats is that regens might become too powerful.
It just doesn't feel right if you're playing with all the legends and then suddenly a couple of 23 year old regens are better at climbing than Bahamontes. |
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| matt17br |
Posted on 21-09-2016 12:20
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Well as long as you also edit the xmls for regens the regens won't be op 
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 21-09-2016 20:06
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Ti-Raleigh - Panasonic
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| udoi |
Posted on 22-09-2016 10:49
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finally I see the TI-Raleigh.... |
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 22-09-2016 11:16
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Z - Peugeot - Crédit Agricole - Gan
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| denismenchov08 |
Posted on 25-09-2016 20:54
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First race on Morzine's stage in Tour 2016 :
1 Eddy Merckx Molteni 3h58'32
2 Claudio Chiappucci Carrera - Mercatone Uno s.t.
3 Laurent Fignon Renault - Gitane - Lejeune s.t.
4 Philippe Thys Peugeot - Dunlop s.t.
5 Louison Bobet Mercier - Hutchinson + 50
6 Sylvère Maes Alcyon - Dunlop + 1'51
7 Jean Alavoine Peugeot - Dunlop s.t.
8 Ottavio Bottecchia Automoto + 2'40
9 Federico Bahamontes Kas s.t.
10 Bauke Mollema Rabobank s.t.
11 Miguel Indurain Reynolds - Banesto - Caisse d’Épargne - Movistar + 3'15
12 Luis Ocaña Saint-Raphaël - Helyett - Hutchinson + 5'04
13 Nairo Quintana Reynolds - Banesto - Caisse d’Épargne - Movistar s.t.
14 Fermo Camellini Mercier - Hutchinson s.t.
15 Raymond Poulidor Mercier - Hutchinson + 5'26
16 Stephen Roche Carrera - Mercatone Uno + 7'10
17 Jean Robic Automoto s.t.
18 Andy Schleck CSC - Saxo Bank - Tinkoff s.t.
19 Mikel Landa Astana - Liberty Seguros - Würth s.t.
20 Marco Pantani Carrera - Mercatone Uno s.t.
21 Jan Janssen Renault - Gitane - Lejeune + 8'27
22 Alberto Contador Astana - Liberty Seguros - Würth s.t.
23 Lucien Van Impe Renault - Gitane - Lejeune s.t.
24 Julio Jiménez Kas s.t.
25 Ferdi Kübler Peugeot - Dunlop s.t.
26 Pedro Delgado Reynolds - Banesto - Caisse d’Épargne - Movistar s.t.
27 Jacques Anquetil Saint-Raphaël - Helyett - Hutchinson s.t.
28 Nicolas Frantz Alcyon - Dunlop + 9'03
29 Vittorio Adorni Molteni + 9'54
30 José MarÃa Jiménez Reynolds - Banesto - Caisse d’Épargne - Movistar s.t.
I don't understand what happened to Mollema but for the rest it seams to be ok ? |
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