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| Eden95 |
Posted on 17-08-2016 09:44
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Croatia14 wrote:
wow Arberg you somehow filled my daily amount of dislikes this early in the morning already...I just have no idea how you can be serious sometimes...
'Serious'.
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 17-08-2016 09:47
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Yeah, LeMond is great, but not one of the greatest. Neither is Froome, Cav, Wiggo or whatever. Boonen IS one of thje greatest, so is Cance, Contador likewise.
I'm sorry, but Cav is one of the greatest. We are talking about the sprinter with the most stage wins at the Tour. Bullshit if he's not one of the greatest imo
He's one of the greatest sprinters that's for sure but sprinters are easily the 'worst' of cyclists so they shouldn't be coming close in lists of greatest cyclists.
zabel'd by riis it seems 
This! What is so impressive on being dragged to last 100 metres and sprint to the line? 
Rider that can only win a race from the sprint cant be even seriously considered in discussion about greatest bike riders...
See, I disagree. Cav is a WC and MSR winner.
I think together with Pettachi, Cippolini and Freire they are the 4 sprinters (well, Pettachi and Freire weren't just sprinters of course), and maybe McWeen (winning all those stages alone is incredible) that should be accounted as greats. You can't win that many stages in cycling's biggest race without beeing counted as one of the greats, I'm sorry. It's your opinions, and I respect it. But somehow, I don't think it's the right one.
And please, don't take me as another Arberg. I think sprinting is extremelly difficult, and just because it's only for 100m, doesn't make it less of cycling because of it. |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 17-08-2016 20:38
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you thought we were done, nope BMX TIME, we cycling till the end cause  seeding runs today but tomorrow we'll start for real, well just the men's quaters but the day after that will be semi-finals to the end \o/
men's quater finals heat 1
 DAUDET Joris
 KIMMANN Niek
 LONG Nicholas
 REZENDE Renato
VAN GORKOM Jelle
 LAUSTSEN Niklas
 JONES Trent
 TREIMANIS Edzus
men's quater finals heat 2
 GRAF David
STROMBERGS Maris Gold in Beijing 2008 & London 2012
 PHILLIPS Liam
 BRETHAUER Luis
 NYHAUG Tory
 MILANO Jefferson
 DODD Kyle
 SYARIFUDIN Toni
men's quaters finals 3
 WILLOUGHBY Sam Silver in London 2012
VAN GENDT Twan
MIR Amidou
 OQUENDO ZABALA Carlos Mario Bronze in London 2012
RAMIREZ YEPES Carlos Alberto
RENCUREL Jeremy
 CAMPO Alfredo
 KOMAROV Evgeny
men's quaters finals 4
FIELDS Connor
SHARRAH Corben
 NAGASAKO Yoshitaku
TURNER Bodi
DEAN Anthony
EVANS Kyle
 NAVRESTAD Tore
 MOLINA Gonzalo
women's semi finals 1
PAJON Mariana Gold in London 2012
HERNANDEZ Stefany
CHRISTENSEN Simone
POST Alise
VAN BENTHEM Merle
VALENTINO Manon
 CARR Amanda
DIAZ Maria Gabriela
women's semi finals 2
BUCHANAN Caroline
SMULDERS Laura Bronze in London 2012
 VANHOOF Elke
CRAIN Brooke
REYNOLDS Lauren
BONDARENKO Yaroslava
PRIES Nadja
STEVAUX CARNAVAL Priscilla |
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| Guido Mukk |
Posted on 17-08-2016 21:11
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Miguel98 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Yeah, LeMond is great, but not one of the greatest. Neither is Froome, Cav, Wiggo or whatever. Boonen IS one of thje greatest, so is Cance, Contador likewise.
I'm sorry, but Cav is one of the greatest. We are talking about the sprinter with the most stage wins at the Tour. Bullshit if he's not one of the greatest imo
He's one of the greatest sprinters that's for sure but sprinters are easily the 'worst' of cyclists so they shouldn't be coming close in lists of greatest cyclists.
zabel'd by riis it seems
This! What is so impressive on being dragged to last 100 metres and sprint to the line?
Rider that can only win a race from the sprint cant be even seriously considered in discussion about greatest bike riders...
See, I disagree. Cav is a WC and MSR winner.
I think together with Pettachi, Cippolini and Freire they are the 4 sprinters (well, Pettachi and Freire weren't just sprinters of course), and maybe McWeen (winning all those stages alone is incredible) that should be accounted as greats. You can't win that many stages in cycling's biggest race without beeing counted as one of the greats, I'm sorry. It's your opinions, and I respect it. But somehow, I don't think it's the right one.
And please, don't take me as another Arberg. I think sprinting is extremelly difficult, and just because it's only for 100m, doesn't make it less of cycling because of it.
Sprinters are fucking amazing..that drag into 200m mark is not some milkman ride. Speed is also then close 60km/h already last 3 km.
Then you need to produce another kick for over 1000w power..timing it perfectly, being at correct position, monitor rivals, being fucking fearless. This is just crazy ..fast, power show, dangerous, marvellous.
You think it is easy? Quess again. |
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| ryant |
Posted on 17-08-2016 21:21
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Guido Mukk wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Yeah, LeMond is great, but not one of the greatest. Neither is Froome, Cav, Wiggo or whatever. Boonen IS one of thje greatest, so is Cance, Contador likewise.
I'm sorry, but Cav is one of the greatest. We are talking about the sprinter with the most stage wins at the Tour. Bullshit if he's not one of the greatest imo
He's one of the greatest sprinters that's for sure but sprinters are easily the 'worst' of cyclists so they shouldn't be coming close in lists of greatest cyclists.
zabel'd by riis it seems
This! What is so impressive on being dragged to last 100 metres and sprint to the line?
Rider that can only win a race from the sprint cant be even seriously considered in discussion about greatest bike riders...
See, I disagree. Cav is a WC and MSR winner.
I think together with Pettachi, Cippolini and Freire they are the 4 sprinters (well, Pettachi and Freire weren't just sprinters of course), and maybe McWeen (winning all those stages alone is incredible) that should be accounted as greats. You can't win that many stages in cycling's biggest race without beeing counted as one of the greats, I'm sorry. It's your opinions, and I respect it. But somehow, I don't think it's the right one.
And please, don't take me as another Arberg. I think sprinting is extremelly difficult, and just because it's only for 100m, doesn't make it less of cycling because of it.
Sprinters are fucking amazing..that drag into 200m mark is not some milkman ride. Speed is also then close 60km/h already last 3 km.
Then you need to produce another kick for over 1000w power..timing it perfectly, being at correct position, monitor rivals, being fucking fearless. This is just crazy ..fast, power show, dangerous, marvellous.
You think it is easy? Quess again.
don't worry, riis is only being an asshole - dont give him the attention
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 17-08-2016 21:27
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Nobody thinks its easy, but its EASILY the least spectacular wins and should be judged accordingly. You know what real legends are made off? Gutsy and balsy rides, overwhelming power and endurance. Think Contador 2009 TdF or 2012 Vuelta, think Gilbert in Ardennes and especially L-B-L in 2011, think Cancellara in 2010 RvV and Roubaix, Sagan RvV 2016, Boonen 2012 Roubaix. Victories which are remembered for the extreme amount of domination, shredding of the opposition in the hardest races in the world (monuments and GTs). Long range breaks, an exhibition of greatness.
Those are the riders who should remembered and appreciated the most, REAL bikeriders. I won't remember Cav's WC in 2011 (as a matter of fact, I have forgotten it) like I would with Evans's ride in 2009 or Costa's in 2013. Neither will I remember one out of many of this stage wins in France - they don't stand out. |
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 17-08-2016 21:29
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ryant wrote:
Guido Mukk wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Avin Wargunnson wrote:
Spilak23 wrote:
Miguel98 wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Yeah, LeMond is great, but not one of the greatest. Neither is Froome, Cav, Wiggo or whatever. Boonen IS one of thje greatest, so is Cance, Contador likewise.
I'm sorry, but Cav is one of the greatest. We are talking about the sprinter with the most stage wins at the Tour. Bullshit if he's not one of the greatest imo
He's one of the greatest sprinters that's for sure but sprinters are easily the 'worst' of cyclists so they shouldn't be coming close in lists of greatest cyclists.
zabel'd by riis it seems
This! What is so impressive on being dragged to last 100 metres and sprint to the line?
Rider that can only win a race from the sprint cant be even seriously considered in discussion about greatest bike riders...
See, I disagree. Cav is a WC and MSR winner.
I think together with Pettachi, Cippolini and Freire they are the 4 sprinters (well, Pettachi and Freire weren't just sprinters of course), and maybe McWeen (winning all those stages alone is incredible) that should be accounted as greats. You can't win that many stages in cycling's biggest race without beeing counted as one of the greats, I'm sorry. It's your opinions, and I respect it. But somehow, I don't think it's the right one.
And please, don't take me as another Arberg. I think sprinting is extremelly difficult, and just because it's only for 100m, doesn't make it less of cycling because of it.
Sprinters are fucking amazing..that drag into 200m mark is not some milkman ride. Speed is also then close 60km/h already last 3 km.
Then you need to produce another kick for over 1000w power..timing it perfectly, being at correct position, monitor rivals, being fucking fearless. This is just crazy ..fast, power show, dangerous, marvellous.
You think it is easy? Quess again.
don't worry, riis is only being an asshole - dont give him the attention
That was unwarranted... apparently a lot of people feel the same way as I do |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 17-08-2016 21:31
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ryant wrote:
don't worry, riis is only being an asshole - dont give him the attention
Really classy.
Gosh this forum has become repetitive and depressive at times.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-08-2016 07:02
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Shonak wrote:
ryant wrote:
don't worry, riis is only being an asshole - dont give him the attention
Really classy.
Gosh this forum has become repetitive and depressive at times.
Lets make it a happy place!
This is shot of Wiggins and Froome from 2012 Tour...
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-08-2016 07:03
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Btw. Sagan arrived in Rio, drawing the lots of attention. Even if he should finish last in the MTB, it is a great marketing action.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 18-08-2016 07:09
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He is green and making stunts, shouldn't Kermit be Sagan?
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-08-2016 07:14
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Hmm, that makes sense. 
Then it is Sagan escaping with Froome during this years Tour. The basket on the bike is actually very sofisticated wattmeter.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 18-08-2016 12:14
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Don't normally watch any bmx or mountain biking so I'm looking forward to watching a bit over the next few days. Who are the favourites I should look out for? |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-08-2016 12:28
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Dont know about BMX, but in MTB:
Schurter (SWI), Absalon (FR), Kulhavy (CZ - reigning olympic champion) are usually cut above the rest in big events.
Marotte (FR), Fontana (IT), Cink (CZ), Fluckiger (SWI), Vogel (SWI), Fumic (DE), Koretzky (FR) are next candidates for good result i would think, but the course is very special in Rio .- not very technical, pretty wide and sandy, so that can, together with chance of rain bring unpredictable race.
Then there is Sagan, who can pretty much finish anywhere i guess, dont wanna hype him.
He would normally had enormous disadvantage of starting from last position (standings), but in OG there are only 50 starters, not 100+ like in world cup races, so on the wider course, he can hopefully try to push to the front better...he should also benefir from not so technical course.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-08-2016 12:35
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Also Sam Gaze from New Zealand should deserve a mention, as fresh U23 world champion (in front of Koretzky), who is used to racing on southern hemisphere. He can be a dark horse of the race...
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 18-08-2016 12:44
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Cheers. Is there no cyclo cross at the Olympics? |
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 18-08-2016 12:48
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Nope and that is winter sport anyway.
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| ringo182 |
Posted on 18-08-2016 13:00
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I'll look out for it at the winter Olympics then  |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 18-08-2016 13:00
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Won't be there, either |
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| OZrocker |
Posted on 18-08-2016 13:06
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I heard yesterday two of the big favourites in the women's BMX are Pajon and Buchanan . They qualified in first and second for the semi-finals, but I think BMX is a bit like the snowboard cross in the Winter Olympics - organised chaos where just about anything can happen.
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