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ICL17 - General | Development
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-08-2016 22:26
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Tour de France Champion
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I don't mind hard mountain stages and little TT but last Giro was imo too much.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Shonak |
Posted on 13-08-2016 22:29
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Tour de France Champion
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For record: I think its good when the GTs have an identity and tradition eg Vuelta punchy, but it shouldn't take over. Both vuelta and Giro maybe were too one dimensional, but it is good when they have their identity and typical stages of course.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| jaxika |
Posted on 14-08-2016 08:57
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Classics Specialist
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PCM$: 9200.00
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Giro:mountains,mountains everywhere
Tour:TT, cobbles
Vuelta:hills, uphill sprints |
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Posted on 23-11-2024 00:09
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| Shonak |
Posted on 14-08-2016 09:18
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Tour de France Champion
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All mountain Giro was the worst GT I ever seen  #NoBreaksAllowed
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 14-08-2016 12:59
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World Champion
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Giro start in germany, tour should start in qatar, vuelta should start in america. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY
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| krisa |
Posted on 14-08-2016 13:13
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Classics Specialist
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Giro is the only grandtour I care about. However It might be due to PCM but please have some hilly stages for the attackers. I missed out on a goal last year due to the no attacks allowed giro. Only schleck could win from a break. At least a prologue and a timetrial would be nice too
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| Luxemburger |
Posted on 14-08-2016 15:04
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I'm also for more hilly stages, so that breaks have a bit more chances. And not just uphill finishes but breakaway-friendly kind of stages.
Kirchen's second account according to Spilak23, 21-07-2016 17:16
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| Bikex |
Posted on 14-08-2016 18:27
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Team Leader
Posts: 7257
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Race Selection Files:
Please download the Race selection file for the division your team is in and follow the following steps. Managers with also a development team will also have to download one for the U23 team.
Here you can also find a file with the calendar in it: https://www.mediafire.com/download/545...endar.xlsx
How does the file work?
#1 Put your team ID in L1. You find your team ID in table teams.
#2 Select the races you want to take part in by putting an "X" in column F next to the race.
#3 It is possible to finish with up to 5 more or less race days used than the required amount.
#4 Copy columns H, where it also says PM and send them to me in a PM.
WT Race Planner: https://www.mediafire.com/download/p1z...ionWT.xlsx
WT teams have 220 race days of which they already spend 180 on WT races. The rest will be in CT. The teams have the option to ride up to 15 CT.2 racedays. Restrictions for riders riding in CT races can be read here: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....st_1188170 at point #3.
CT Race Planner: https://www.mediafire.com/download/wlz...ionCT.xlsx
CT teams have 170 race days which will majorly be used on CT.1 and CT.2 races. They are also allowed to apply for wildcards for WT races. But the WT races they apply for aren't allowed to have more than 50 racedays combined.
U23 Race Planner: https://www.mediafire.com/download/xi4...onU23.xlsx
U23 teams have 85 race days. They don't have to ride all U23 races. But at least 40 of their race days has to be filled up with U23 races. The rest of the races will be spent in CT. Mostly in CT.2 though, as they are not allowed to ride more than 20 CT.1 race days. They are also not allowed to take part in two clashing races. CT.2 races are already put on the calendar the way they don't clash with U23 races, but when assigning CT.1 races, you have to take care.
To those who missed it the race profiles can be found here: https://pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread....d_id=45465
Only the GT routes are missing now, you'll definitely have more time for this after they are presented. Thanks for all the suggestions btw.
Any questions? Post them here. If too many teams apply for one race I'll decide who gets accepted based on various factors.
Important notice for everyone: Usually I want you to send me PMs in table format. This time please don't do that. Just copy the PM column and paste it without any formation into the Message Box. If you put it in table brackets the 0s will be removed meaning I won't get your race selections correctly.
Edited by Bikex on 15-08-2016 12:21
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| dominox |
Posted on 14-08-2016 18:55
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Oh man, I love this part  . |
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| jserna735 |
Posted on 14-08-2016 20:15
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just to clarify, there is no minimum AVG for a rider to participate in a WT race, correct?
Manager of Team Coldeportes ICL17
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| matt17br |
Posted on 14-08-2016 21:28
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Directeur Sportif
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Nope, I've sent the shittiest of the shittier riders in the db to a few wt races last year, you're safe
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| PeterRyder |
Posted on 14-08-2016 21:38
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Domestique
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And I hate it
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| Shonak |
Posted on 14-08-2016 22:46
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Tour de France Champion
Posts: 15615
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matt17br wrote:
Nope, I've sent the shittiest of the shittier riders in the db to a few wt races last year, you're safe
#ReasonsWhyYouWouldHaveDelegated <3
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| matt17br |
Posted on 14-08-2016 22:50
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Directeur Sportif
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We have a better shot at not relegating this year for the mere reason I only have 6 filler riders compared to the ones I had last year 
But seriously we're going down fo'real homeboys get prepared!
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| AbhishekLFC |
Posted on 15-08-2016 06:17
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Directeur Sportif
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If a CT team applies for a WT wildcard and that gets rejected, can we apply for a different race, given that race days will open up?
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2016 12:06
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Team Leader
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jserna735 wrote:
just to clarify, there is no minimum AVG for a rider to participate in a WT race, correct?
No minimum AVG
AbhishekLFC wrote:
If a CT team applies for a WT wildcard and that gets rejected, can we apply for a different race, given that race days will open up?
Yes |
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| jaxika |
Posted on 15-08-2016 12:14
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Classics Specialist
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Can we wait until the GT routes are up? With planning? |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2016 12:21
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Team Leader
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jaxika wrote:
Can we wait until the GT routes are up? With planning?
Of course
Important notice for everyone: Usually I want you to send me PMs in table format. This time please don't do that. Just copy the PM column and paste it without any formation into the Message Box. If you put it in table brackets the 0s will be removed meaning I won't get your race selections correctly. |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2016 12:36
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Team Leader
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World Cup
I have decided these races will be part of the newly introduced World Cup this season:
| Palm Classic | Sprint | | Clasica di Tirreno - Adriatico | Sprint | | Milano - Sanremo | Sprint | | Vattenfall Cyclassics | Sprint | | Paris - Tours | Sprint | | | | Omloop Het Nieuwsblad | Cobbles | | Gent-Wevelgem | Cobbles | | Ronde van Vlaanderen | Cobbles | | Paris - Roubaix | Cobbles | | Richmond Criterium | Cobbles | | | | Strade Bianche | Hills | | Roma Maxima | Hills | | Amstel Gold Race | Hills | | Liège - Bastogne - Liège | Hills | | Clasica Ciclista San Sebastian | Hills | | Bucaramanga Classic | Hills | | Il Lombardia | Hills | | | | Trofeo Campania | TimeTrial | | GP Luxembourg | TimeTrial | | Chrono des Nations | TimeTrial |
There will be minor rankings for every terrain type. All combined will be the World Cup.
The top 20 will get these number of points:
| 1 | 100 | | 2 | 70 | | 3 | 50 | | 4 | 40 | | 5 | 32 | | 6 | 24 | | 7 | 20 | | 8 | 16 | | 9 | 14 | | 10 | 12 | | 11 | 10 | | 12 | 9 | | 13 | 8 | | 14 | 7 | | 15 | 6 | | 16 | 5 | | 17 | 4 | | 18 | 3 | | 19 | 2 | | 20 | 1 |
For the team rankings the top 10 teams will get points. For that the finishing positions of their top 3 riders counts, the lower the better, if two teams have the same number, the best finishing rider counts for the tie break. The best team will get 10 points until the 10th will get 1.
I thought about making the option to replace one focus race with a rankings focus/goal. This can be any ranking, not only World Cup. Is that a good idea or is it preferred to keep the current system with only focus races but the scored points also playing a role for the calculated budget of next season? |
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| Bikex |
Posted on 15-08-2016 13:36
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I have now also added the GT routes. This time I wasn't very creative as I just took variants that were available. Giro is a Stylus variant with one stage replaced as it bugged. Tour is the 2015 route and Vuelta the 2012 route with the TTT removed. I think the routes are quite well balanced and should give opportunities to everyone.
Edit: I'll also now link the race routes in the first posts which should make it easier to navigate through the thread. |
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