SSJ2Luigi wrote:
what the fuck? Pantano is actually listed as a betting option XD lol, pcmdaily betting admin has better foresight then jandal and arberg put together
Race Your selection Betted PCM$ Odds Possible winnings Winner
Tour de France Stage 15 PANTANO Jarlinson 50.00 22.00 1100 PCM$
He's looked thereabouts but saving himself and was strong in Swiss too of course (albeit that was the B team WT race).
Edited by ianrussell on 17-07-2016 19:36
Missed the stage again but doesn't look like I missed too much.
From what I've read, this stage seems to be a big flashing red light for smaller teams/wage cap or just any solution to make sure that one team does not completely and utterly dominate the race. Sky's team is so ludicrously strong this Tour, stronger than in 2012 I think, and it's killing the racing. No point Quintana attacking, because he'll just get immediately chased down by the train; although it would be expected that he would be able to hold off the Sky train at top form it's obvious from Ventoux and the TT that he's not at top form. Sure, I'm frustrated at his passive racing as well, but it's his only viable option when Sky control the race to such an extent, and he's not a once-in-a-generation Contador-esque rider that some people hope he is who is willing to risk everything on suicidal long-range attacks. He just has to hope that something goes wrong with the Sky train or Froome cracks unexpectedly and then seize the moment, but at the moment Froome, and Sky, are just stronger, and there's nothing he can do about that.
Stromeon wrote:
Missed the stage again but doesn't look like I missed too much.
From what I've read, this stage seems to be a big flashing red light for smaller teams/wage cap or just any solution to make sure that one team does not completely and utterly dominate the race. Sky's team is so ludicrously strong this Tour, stronger than in 2012 I think, and it's killing the racing. No point Quintana attacking, because he'll just get immediately chased down by the train; although it would be expected that he would be able to hold off the Sky train at top form it's obvious from Ventoux and the TT that he's not at top form. Sure, I'm frustrated at his passive racing as well, but it's his only viable option when Sky control the race to such an extent, and he's not a once-in-a-generation Contador-esque rider that some people hope he is who is willing to risk everything on suicidal long-range attacks. He just has to hope that something goes wrong with the Sky train or Froome cracks unexpectedly and then seize the moment, but at the moment Froome, and Sky, are just stronger, and there's nothing he can do about that.
Do I really have to say one more time: 3rd week. Is your memory really that short or you just ignore those moments where Poels was only domestique left with Froome on Stage 19. Or Alpe d'Huez where beforementioned Poels and Porte had to drag his ass up so that he wouldn't lose Tour.
Stromeon wrote:
Missed the stage again but doesn't look like I missed too much.
From what I've read, this stage seems to be a big flashing red light for smaller teams/wage cap or just any solution to make sure that one team does not completely and utterly dominate the race. Sky's team is so ludicrously strong this Tour, stronger than in 2012 I think, and it's killing the racing. No point Quintana attacking, because he'll just get immediately chased down by the train; although it would be expected that he would be able to hold off the Sky train at top form it's obvious from Ventoux and the TT that he's not at top form. Sure, I'm frustrated at his passive racing as well, but it's his only viable option when Sky control the race to such an extent, and he's not a once-in-a-generation Contador-esque rider that some people hope he is who is willing to risk everything on suicidal long-range attacks. He just has to hope that something goes wrong with the Sky train or Froome cracks unexpectedly and then seize the moment, but at the moment Froome, and Sky, are just stronger, and there's nothing he can do about that.
Do I really have to say one more time: 3rd week. Is your memory really that short or you just ignore those moments where Poels was only domestique left with Froome on Stage 19. Or Alpe d'Huez where beforementioned Poels and Porte had to drag his ass up so that he wouldn't lose Tour.
Yes it was last year when Froome won TDF with the same disease as TVG.
Stromeon wrote:
Missed the stage again but doesn't look like I missed too much.
From what I've read, this stage seems to be a big flashing red light for smaller teams/wage cap or just any solution to make sure that one team does not completely and utterly dominate the race. Sky's team is so ludicrously strong this Tour, stronger than in 2012 I think, and it's killing the racing. No point Quintana attacking, because he'll just get immediately chased down by the train; although it would be expected that he would be able to hold off the Sky train at top form it's obvious from Ventoux and the TT that he's not at top form. Sure, I'm frustrated at his passive racing as well, but it's his only viable option when Sky control the race to such an extent, and he's not a once-in-a-generation Contador-esque rider that some people hope he is who is willing to risk everything on suicidal long-range attacks. He just has to hope that something goes wrong with the Sky train or Froome cracks unexpectedly and then seize the moment, but at the moment Froome, and Sky, are just stronger, and there's nothing he can do about that.
Do I really have to say one more time: 3rd week. Is your memory really that short or you just ignore those moments where Poels was only domestique left with Froome on Stage 19. Or Alpe d'Huez where beforementioned Poels and Porte had to drag his ass up so that he wouldn't lose Tour.
Yes it was last year when Froome won TDF with the same disease as TVG.
Yeah, yeah. yeah. That same "disease" which Froome had in 2013 when Purito and Quintana put a minute on him on Alpe d'Huez or later put half a minute in Stage 20.
I_Mayo wrote:
Yeah, yeah. yeah. That same "disease" which Froome had in 2013 when Purito and Quintana put a minute on him on Alpe d'Huez or later put half a minute in Stage 20.
Forgotten to drink and eat and Froome won with 4:20min.
If Froome do not get sick as last year or injury, then I'm sure he's better than ever in 3rd week, the same reason that he is better on descents, this is a man and a team who improve small weaknesses they have!
Edited by Arberg27 on 17-07-2016 20:56
Stromeon wrote:
Missed the stage again but doesn't look like I missed too much.
From what I've read, this stage seems to be a big flashing red light for smaller teams/wage cap or just any solution to make sure that one team does not completely and utterly dominate the race. Sky's team is so ludicrously strong this Tour, stronger than in 2012 I think, and it's killing the racing. No point Quintana attacking, because he'll just get immediately chased down by the train; although it would be expected that he would be able to hold off the Sky train at top form it's obvious from Ventoux and the TT that he's not at top form. Sure, I'm frustrated at his passive racing as well, but it's his only viable option when Sky control the race to such an extent, and he's not a once-in-a-generation Contador-esque rider that some people hope he is who is willing to risk everything on suicidal long-range attacks. He just has to hope that something goes wrong with the Sky train or Froome cracks unexpectedly and then seize the moment, but at the moment Froome, and Sky, are just stronger, and there's nothing he can do about that.
Do I really have to say one more time: 3rd week. Is your memory really that short or you just ignore those moments where Poels was only domestique left with Froome on Stage 19. Or Alpe d'Huez where beforementioned Poels and Porte had to drag his ass up so that he wouldn't lose Tour.
I don't really understand what you mean in this post. Is it:
a) Sky will fail in the 3rd week this year?
b) that they were successful last year in the 3rd week so will be again this year?
c) that they were weak last year in the 3rd week so will be again this year?
What is clear is that Sky's team this year is a lot stronger than last year's by a long way. 2016 Landa + 2016 Henao + 2016 Nieve > 2015 Porte + 2015 Konig + 2015 Roche.
Stromeon wrote:
Missed the stage again but doesn't look like I missed too much.
From what I've read, this stage seems to be a big flashing red light for smaller teams/wage cap or just any solution to make sure that one team does not completely and utterly dominate the race. Sky's team is so ludicrously strong this Tour, stronger than in 2012 I think, and it's killing the racing. No point Quintana attacking, because he'll just get immediately chased down by the train; although it would be expected that he would be able to hold off the Sky train at top form it's obvious from Ventoux and the TT that he's not at top form. Sure, I'm frustrated at his passive racing as well, but it's his only viable option when Sky control the race to such an extent, and he's not a once-in-a-generation Contador-esque rider that some people hope he is who is willing to risk everything on suicidal long-range attacks. He just has to hope that something goes wrong with the Sky train or Froome cracks unexpectedly and then seize the moment, but at the moment Froome, and Sky, are just stronger, and there's nothing he can do about that.
Do I really have to say one more time: 3rd week. Is your memory really that short or you just ignore those moments where Poels was only domestique left with Froome on Stage 19. Or Alpe d'Huez where beforementioned Poels and Porte had to drag his ass up so that he wouldn't lose Tour.
I don't really understand what you mean in this post. Is it:
a) Sky will fail in the 3rd week this year?
b) that they were successful last year in the 3rd week so will be again this year?
c) that they were weak last year in the 3rd week so will be again this year?
What is clear is that Sky's team this year is a lot stronger than last year's by a long way. 2016 Landa + 2016 Henao + 2016 Nieve > 2015 Porte + 2015 Konig + 2015 Roche.
Considering that a) and c) are basically the same, that's what I mean.
And honestly what's the added value of Henao. Landa and Poels are basically the only ones doing anything significant.
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
what the fuck? Pantano is actually listed as a betting option XD lol, pcmdaily betting admin has better foresight then jandal and arberg put together
Race Your selection Betted PCM$ Odds Possible winnings Winner
Tour de France Stage 15 PANTANO Jarlinson 50.00 22.00 1100 PCM$
He's looked thereabouts but saving himself and was strong in Swiss too of course (albeit that was the B team WT race).
I knew he would win a stage in this race but I thought it would be in the Alps, he's really going well this year
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Riis123 wrote:
Schlock did that one time; he had put himself in that situation and Evans had a downright horrendous team in the mountains. One time. Its completely suicidal to attack long range against this Sky-squad, its even better than 2012.
the problem with Quintana is that he is just soo formulaic, so predictable, no wonder racing is so crap when Movistar send a man in the break, then do fuck all all day so Sky are strong when it matters. They then run out of ideas so Valv puts a small dig knowing he needs to save energy for his own GC. Quintana finally attacks then gets marked tp death and Froome wins lol
I'd respect him more if he tried something different and fell on his sword as 2nd in the tour means fuck all when you've done it before
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Melbourne Hill Rd Warrandyte
Colby Drive Belgrave South
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David Hill Rd Monbulk
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