Tamijo wrote:
I'm all for Fromy in yellow, he surely deserves it, but it is problematic next time when it is a rider not in yellow, and he fall with 2 km to the top due to a bike, what then, eliminate the last 2 km of The mountain ?
Exactly. It leaves rules open for interpretation. Someone gets cut off at a railway crossing and loses time? A rider gets knocked off their bike by a spectator and loses a minute? What happens now?
Yep again we have the UCI just making it up. Sepúlveda got DQ'd on the Mende stage last year when his bike failed and his team car was a couple of hundred meters up the road so he hopped a lift to the team car to get another bike, he did the wrong thing and rightly got DQ'd, technically by the ways the rules are written what Froome did today was the same thing yet we have a different decision by the UCI race judges. I just don't get this sport sometimes
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This decision is very unfair for Mollema. He was in same exact incident but managed to gain time on both Froome and Porte and now he sees that all dissapear.
Sad part is that Froome really was getting the respect of a lot of neutrals and haters alike, me being one of them, with his attacks on the downhill and yesterday. UCI/ASO (whoever's in charge) really screwed that up big-time!
Arberg27 wrote:
Froome still in yellow, so all the other has still not a chance, as I have always said
Do you have a code written somewhere whence the words and sentences are jumbled up and a new combination is posted here every 10 minutes or so? Clearly, this kind is one-track posting needs a special kind of dedication!
This decision is surely political.
That idea that a rider placed on 147th in the race getting a different handling is understood (even if it's sad)
When consider it, it will NOT decide the outcome of the race.
It's a bit that if sponsors look at this mess and top riders can risk getting dropped with a hammer blow from spectators they will run. No money and perhaps no TV. UCI would face a similar thing as when Germany decided not to broadcast anymore, thanks to doping.
The Abdo incident was sad, but at least he had a functional bike and they helped him back on it. Then the incident didn't matter for the GC, what I recall. He did get the same time, but doubt he cared
Sad he didn't win the stage, but you can't get it all.
I guess no team will dare, but if someone submit a formal complaint on Froome running up 500 meters without a bike, it would be hard for the jury to keep him in the race.
titleist82 wrote:
I guess no team will dare, but if someone submit a formal complaint on Froome running up 500 meters without a bike, it would be hard for the jury to keep him in the race.
The amount of hate for Froome in this thread would make me lose my faith in humanity. If I had any. FFS, you allow Froome to lose 90 seconds like he did today, and then you can wake up in the world in which the most popular rider, who's sprinter, can win because all of his opponents were taken down by "supporters". And information to those bringing up marathon at Beijing Olympics and other similar cases. You can't excuse wrong decision of jury, by other wrong decisions. Surely, we should try to make good decisions, even in the past some decisions in some similar circumstances were made wrong?
At least Froome didn't jumped on the motorbike close to him. Then he should be DQ, like Sepulveda. Nibali sticky bottle was almost same. Getting help from another vehicle. Froome just ran without bike. If he carried his broken bike surely no-one would complain.
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Sad part is that Froome really was getting the respect of a lot of neutrals and haters alike, me being one of them, with his attacks on the downhill and yesterday. UCI/ASO (whoever's in charge) really screwed that up big-time!
Not really his fault to be fair to him if you hate him for this it's a bit silly
TO everyone getting annoyed did you really expect anything else to happen you've all mentioned that it wouldn't be the same for others and of course it wouldn't we don't live in a world were it is fair for all participants in all sports and it never will stars will always get better treatment.
@Strydz that rule is never going to be enforced here they wouldn't even bother looking at it otherwise you could claim Aru should be thrown out as he held onto the bottle from the car following a bike change earlier plus a little bit of common sense every now and then doesn't go a miss
titleist82 wrote:
I guess no team will dare, but if someone submit a formal complaint on Froome running up 500 meters without a bike, it would be hard for the jury to keep him in the race.
He has a ready excuse of his bike being stolen...
it wasn't stolen. The images clearly show he threw the bike away himself
supradyn wrote:
The amount of hate for Froome in this thread would make me lose my faith in humanity. If I had any. FFS, you allow Froome to lose 90 seconds like he did today, and then you can wake up in the world in which the most popular rider, who's sprinter, can win because all of his opponents were taken down by "supporters". And information to those bringing up marathon at Beijing Olympics and other similar cases. You can't excuse wrong decision of jury, by other wrong decisions. Surely, we should try to make good decisions, even in the past some decisions in some similar circumstances were made wrong?
So it's okay to bend the rules whenever they feel like it? I have nothing against Froome but I do like seeing riders attempt to follow the rules, he had no excuse to start running up the road without his bike with him.
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wtf is that UCI/ASO? It was "race incident" and it happens many times, so why review the times and keep Froome in yellow? I know it's not fair, but I'm for keeping the times they actually crossed the line...
supradyn wrote:
The amount of hate for Froome in this thread would make me lose my faith in humanity. If I had any. FFS, you allow Froome to lose 90 seconds like he did today, and then you can wake up in the world in which the most popular rider, who's sprinter, can win because all of his opponents were taken down by "supporters". And information to those bringing up marathon at Beijing Olympics and other similar cases. You can't excuse wrong decision of jury, by other wrong decisions. Surely, we should try to make good decisions, even in the past some decisions in some similar circumstances were made wrong?
Froome just gets hate because Sky ruins the entertainment value of the Tour. Watching a US Postal style train is just extremely boring, because it's impossible to attack, making the races extremely predictable (except for incidents like today). TdF mountain stages are snooze fests compared to the Giro and Vuelta, where riders attack left and right on the mountain stages.
supradyn wrote:
The amount of hate for Froome in this thread would make me lose my faith in humanity. If I had any. FFS, you allow Froome to lose 90 seconds like he did today, and then you can wake up in the world in which the most popular rider, who's sprinter, can win because all of his opponents were taken down by "supporters". And information to those bringing up marathon at Beijing Olympics and other similar cases. You can't excuse wrong decision of jury, by other wrong decisions. Surely, we should try to make good decisions, even in the past some decisions in some similar circumstances were made wrong?
So it's okay to bend the rules whenever they feel like it? I have nothing against Froome but I do like seeing riders attempt to follow the rules, he had no excuse to start running up the road without his bike with him.
Well technically rules says you can run. You just need to finish with the bike.
@Strydz that rule is never going to be enforced here they wouldn't even bother looking at it otherwise you could claim Aru should be thrown out as he held onto the bottle from the car following a bike change earlier plus a little bit of common sense every now and then doesn't go a miss[/quote]
As I said I would understand if they had neutralized his time considering what happened, my problem is that he then took off without his bike, he really had no excuse to do that and if he wasn't aware of the rules in regards to completing the whole course with a bike on your person it still doesn't matter, it's on him to know the rules. On Aru well yeah he should at least of gotten a time penalty/fine for the drafting and the sticky bottle, if he doesn't then that's a really poor decision aswell
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