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Tour de France 2016 :..: Stage 12: Montpellier - Chalet Reynard
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| Strydz |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:46
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AbhishekLFC wrote:
So tell me something, if anybody remembers, it was either in the Beijing Olympics or Athens, a Brazilian, if I remember correctly, was leading the marathon by a huge margin. Then a fan pushed him down, he lost his rhythm and eventually finished 4th. No sympathy was given to that runner. How is this any different?
The UCI just make things up as they go
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:46
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Strydz wrote:
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Saying it got nicked is a good reason/excuse - no-one will be able to prove or disprove it categoricaly and the whole run thing and technical infringement therein can be glossed over.
TdF jury's love a bit of gloss.
I'd agree with you if we didn't have footage of him dumping his bike against a moto and taking off on foot
Haven't seen that, sounds interesting. Saw the crash then the next thing him running. If it's just witnesses I expect anyone within 50m did a runner about 30 seconds after the lead group went through and they aren't hanging around to make a statement  |
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| jfm312 |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:48
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ASO fucked up by not having barriers or more control after shortening the stage. On Bastille Day, on a Ventoux that is concentrated, inside of 1K there is no excuse for not having barriers. On Alpe D'Huez they have barriers well over 1K. Doesn't matter if it was the motorbike or the fans fault, without barriers it doesn't happen. ASO cannot mess up like that and then punish Porte, Froome, and others who lost time because of their own stupidity |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:49
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Froome deciding to run is proof that he is Kenyan. [/badjoke]
IMO they should keep the time differences from the moment of the crash. They did something similar when the flamme rouge arc collapsed. |
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:49
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:49
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imo they should give Froome and Porte either Mollema's time, give them all 1km times or 3km time and then give Froome a 1 or 2 minute penalty, won't happen though.
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:50
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AbhishekLFC wrote:
So tell me something, if anybody remembers, it was either in the Beijing Olympics or Athens, a Brazilian, if I remember correctly, was leading the marathon by a huge margin. Then a fan pushed him down, he lost his rhythm and eventually finished 4th. No sympathy was given to that runner. How is this any different? Why does Froome deserve any sympathy specifically?
The difference is ASO owns this race and it's their biggest money makers. They don't give a shit what happens in some marathon or other sports. They don't want controversy that will cause Tour to be made mockery of.
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| clamel |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:50
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This starts to look like when riders crossing a railroad crossing.
If the crowd decide to block the road, that is then just a part of racing.
It will open up very dangerous stuff among thousand of psychos. Next time one can just hit a rider and block the road so their favourit can ride to victory.
The jury got a very dangerous decision to make. They could make it "Open season on all riders"
Team Sky will not dare to come to races like this and ASO will get their All France TDF.
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| murao22 |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:50
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Wow! What and crazy stage, I'm not a huge fan of Froome and Porte, but situations like this shouldn't happen, it tarnishes the image of cycling, as Flecha and House said at TdF Extra in Eurosport. In my opinion t wasn't fault of moto, but of ASO |
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:51
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AbhishekLFC wrote:
That bike is worth a fortune. What did he expect!
After the strategic nature break, this was karma, wasn't it? Bad luck to Porte in particular and Mollema. The latter might have got the yellow otherwise with Froome's incident! Loooooooooooooooool.
You are saying that this is karma but Movistar could have attacked after the nature break.There was nothing stopping them.Nothing.They waited.
Also(1957 Giro d'Italia,Stage 18,the deciding stage,the paragraphes about that stage taken from BikeRaceInfo) :
The 242-kilometer stage was flattish with the hard ascent over the Bondone coming towards the end. After about a third of the day’s distance had been covered, Bobet decided he needed to answer the call of nature. The rest of the French riders joined him in seeking relief.
Nencini, also thinking this would be a good time to have a “natural break”, signaled to his Chlorodont teammates that they should also dismount. Gaul, who had passed the stopped riders, continued on for a couple more kilometers before he and Ernzer also climbed off their bikes to relieve themselves.
Bobet and Nencini finished their business and got back on the road, riding past the still busy Gaul. The reader, remembering that blunt and brusque Gaul detested Bobet, will not be surprised by what happened next. When Bobet rode by, in Géminiani’s words, “Gaul made an indecent gesture with his organ of virility.”
That did it. Normally race etiquette allows a racer to urinate safely without worrying about being attacked. But this insult after Gaul’s other public strutting was too much. Bobet, furious, yelled to Géminiani to drop the hammer. Nencini and his men (and others, including Baldini and Poblet) understood that this was a moment to be seized and jumped in to help the French (and themselves) distance themselves from Gaul. Knowing that the race had now been put back in play, they rode the next 90 kilometers at 45 kilometers per hour!
Gaul could not close the gap as the Italians and French roared over the Bondone and into Trent. Here’s where his contempt for his teammates and bad relations with the rest of the peloton cost him dearly. He was largely on his own and even though he was an effective time-trialist, this was a chase beyond any single man. At the end of the day Nencini was in pink, close to eight minutes ahead of Gaul with Bobet in second, a slim 19 seconds behind the Italian.
On the next stage Gaul waited for Nencini when he punctured and he paced Nencini up to Bobet.In the end Nencini won the Giro ahead of Bobet and Baldini.Gaul finished 4th overall. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:53
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Alakagom wrote:
AbhishekLFC wrote:
So tell me something, if anybody remembers, it was either in the Beijing Olympics or Athens, a Brazilian, if I remember correctly, was leading the marathon by a huge margin. Then a fan pushed him down, he lost his rhythm and eventually finished 4th. No sympathy was given to that runner. How is this any different? Why does Froome deserve any sympathy specifically?
The difference is ASO owns this race and it's their biggest money makers. They don't give a shit what happens in some marathon or other sports. They don't want controversy that will cause Tour to be made mockery of.
This it has nothing to do with the rules why they will/have changed the result it is all Public Relations more importantly media relations |
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:55
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Thank ASO for not being complete and utter scrubs and letting the result stand.
No one should lose or win a TdF on a leader being stopped by a motorcycle because of moronic insane spectators who should never have been there. |
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| Wilier |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:55
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:55
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jt1109 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
AbhishekLFC wrote:
So tell me something, if anybody remembers, it was either in the Beijing Olympics or Athens, a Brazilian, if I remember correctly, was leading the marathon by a huge margin. Then a fan pushed him down, he lost his rhythm and eventually finished 4th. No sympathy was given to that runner. How is this any different? Why does Froome deserve any sympathy specifically?
The difference is ASO owns this race and it's their biggest money makers. They don't give a shit what happens in some marathon or other sports. They don't want controversy that will cause Tour to be made mockery of.
This it has nothing to do with the rules why they will/have changed the result it is all Public Relations more importantly media relations
But that's what I just said 
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:57
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| Forever the Best |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:57
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Best decision I think. |
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:58
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Alakagom wrote:
jt1109 wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
AbhishekLFC wrote:
So tell me something, if anybody remembers, it was either in the Beijing Olympics or Athens, a Brazilian, if I remember correctly, was leading the marathon by a huge margin. Then a fan pushed him down, he lost his rhythm and eventually finished 4th. No sympathy was given to that runner. How is this any different? Why does Froome deserve any sympathy specifically?
The difference is ASO owns this race and it's their biggest money makers. They don't give a shit what happens in some marathon or other sports. They don't want controversy that will cause Tour to be made mockery of.
This it has nothing to do with the rules why they will/have changed the result it is all Public Relations more importantly media relations
But that's what I just said
I was just agreeing haha |
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| Tamijo |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:58
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I'm all for Fromy in yellow, he surely deserves it, but it is problematic next time when it is a rider not in yellow, and he fall with 2 km to the top due to a bike, what then, eliminate the last 2 km of The mountain ?
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:58
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That doesn't make sense, shouldn't Porte be at least ahead of Rodriguez now?
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| ianrussell |
Posted on 14-07-2016 16:58
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So effectively they lost all of about say 15-20 seconds as that was how much Mollema probably got held up counting the loss of momentum? |
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