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Who will be the next new Grand Tour champion and when?
baseballlover312
Dombrowski will win the next 25 GT's at least, I'm 100% sure.
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Riis123
I don't see any exceptional GT-talent right now who is up-and-coming, like fx. Andy, Contador or Quintana, so I think the likes of Aru, Pinot, Chaves and Quintana (probably forgot a few) from that insane generation are gonna dominate from 2017 and forward.

The exception would be Jungels. I've been on the bandwagon since his Tour 2015 and been pretty vocal here about his GT-talents and thankfully, he went after it this year. I personally think he ceiling is quite a big higher than Dumoulin's.
 
baseballlover312
Riis123 wrote:
I don't see any exceptional GT-talent right now who is up-and-coming, like fx. Andy, Contador or Quintana, so I think the likes of Aru, Pinot, Chaves and Quintana (probably forgot a few) from that insane generation are gonna dominate from 2017 and forward.

The exception would be Jungels. I've been on the bandwagon since his Tour 2015 and been pretty vocal here about his GT-talents and thankfully, he went after it this year. I personally think he ceiling is quite a big higher than Dumoulin's.


I agree about Jungels. Has been around a while so he has experience even though he is quite young and still has a quite a bit of time and room to improve his climbing. For Dumoulin, I feel like even though he can hold his own on climbs, his ceiling on that attribute has pretty much stabilized. When the big GC guys are in form, he'll have trouble holding onto the GC of a GT once the attacks start to get serious. Jungels, on the other hand, has shown some adaptive recovering and has more room to improve.
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Shonak
Riis123 wrote:
I don't see any exceptional GT-talent right now who is up-and-coming, like fx. Andy, Contador or Quintana, so I think the likes of Aru, Pinot, Chaves and Quintana (probably forgot a few) from that insane generation are gonna dominate from 2017 and forward.

Maybe it's a bit too early for some 20 to 23 year olds still. Jungels has really caused some justified fuss and looks like a huge GT prospect now so that's at least one for them. Also recently Sam Oomen did some great climbing (20 years old) at Criterium International. Ciccone did a nice Giro But yes the recent neo-pros havn't quite been so outstanding as the classes of Pinot, Quintana, Bardet; maybe it's because they not only have to ride against the established veterans but also against such a strong, still young set-up of 25-27 year olds.
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Paul23
I've heard that Diego Ulissi could be domination GTs in a near future. I will keep my eye on him.
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Omloop
Miguel Angel Lopez and Hugh Carty should be contending in the future, if they make good career descisions. As of who the next Grand Tour winner will be? Gesink in this years Tour de France.
 
Shonak
Hugh Carthy could really be the next big thing, good call.
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kadtagenero
Well Chavez, López, and some other surprise from Colombia will win a GT soon.

I'll be happy if Rui Costa doesn't win any... in pcm he always wins the tour Frown
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AbhishekLFC
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Strydz
Shonak wrote:
Hugh Carthy could really be the next big thing, good call.


If he stays away from Sky then he could become a solid climbing GC guy
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Ton1Mart1n
Strydz wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Hugh Carthy could really be the next big thing, good call.


If he stays away from Sky then he could become a solid climbing GC guy


Why stay away from Sky?

Froome is getting ooold
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Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Hugh Carthy could really be the next big thing, good call.


If he stays away from Sky then he could become a solid climbing GC guy

He will be a Movistar within 3 years, mark my words
 
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AbhishekLFC
Ian Butler wrote:
*in his best Alakagom imitation voice*

Tiesj Benoot, Tour de France 2016

Not even in PCM Pfft
 
matt17br
Ton1Mart1n wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Hugh Carthy could really be the next big thing, good call.


If he stays away from Sky then he could become a solid climbing GC guy


Why stay away from Sky?

Froome is getting ooold

Because then he'd just be a member of the sky train. He's not good enough to be a leader in any race yet, and I don't see how he could in the next 2 years with all the climbers sky has in their roster already.
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My pick is Ilnur Zakarin - otherwise I´ll go for a crazy one and say Primoz Roglic
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Strydz
Ton1Mart1n wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Shonak wrote:
Hugh Carthy could really be the next big thing, good call.


If he stays away from Sky then he could become a solid climbing GC guy


Why stay away from Sky?

Froome is getting ooold


The Sky training method isn't the greatest when looking at riders overall health, they stick to a script that seems to train fragility into riders health wise, it works for some but fails for others with bad days becoming really bad days. They can barely get Froome through a 3 week race in one piece and that guy is a science experiment Wink

But if we are judging success purely on big wins which I'll concede most do then yes Carthy to Sky would be a logical step, I actually agree with Riis that he'll end up at Movistar as he seems to be happy riding with a Spanish squad
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jandal7
Nario 2016 Tour
Chaves 2016 Vuelta
Kruiswijk 2017 Giro
Nairo 2017 Tour
Adam Yates 2017 Vuelta
Chaves 2018 Giro
Pinot 2018 Tour
Chaves 2018 Vuelta
Froome 2019 Giro
Chaves 2019 Tour
Nairo 2019 Vuelta

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AbhishekLFC
Now we're talking Cool

Ok let's have some fun with this...

jandal7 wrote:
Nario 2016 Tour - Grin
Chaves 2016 Vuelta - Too soon
Kruiswijk 2017 Giro - Think Chaves might get this one instead
Nairo 2017 Tour - Two in a row, loving it!!
Adam Yates 2017 Vuelta - Bold!!
Chaves 2018 Giro - Or Landa. Probably Landa
Pinot 2018 Tour - Yes, I'd agree
Chaves 2018 Vuelta - Possible
Froome 2019 Giro - Too old by now surely
Chaves 2019 Tour - Nope
Nairo 2019 Vuelta - Yayyy Pfft

Mark my words!

Sorry Kruijswijk Frown
 
Strydz
AbhishekLFC wrote:
Now we're talking Cool

Ok let's have some fun with this...

jandal7 wrote:

Froome 2019 Giro - Too old by now surely


Mark my words!

Sorry Kruijswijk Frown


Froome will be 34 in 2019 so if Evans can win a TDF at 34, Horner winning a Vuelta at 41 then Froome could win a Vuelta at 34
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