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Strydz
ringo182 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
ringo182 wrote:
The Russian doping scandal continues to get worse for them. Accusations of them covering up drug cheating at the Sochi Winter Olympics with government agents/officials involved.

https://www.bbc.co...s/36245334

Is it really a possibility they will be kicked out of the Olympics?


Yeah they could get kicked out but do people honestly think Russia is worse than any of the other major sporting countries? It absolutely stinks but its just a part of the game when it comes to Pro sports


All countries will have athletes who dope. Individuals can always get access to banned substances if they wish. And possibly countries may try to turn a blind eye at times.

However, do all countries have a state sponsored doping programme, sponsored and supported by the government? Probably not. That is the difference I think.


I guess it all depends on what one describes as state sponsored, I think that many countries public money goes into doping programs just a little less directly than what Russia has done. I do think they should be booted from the Olympics this time around but it should be part of a bigger program to clean house but who and how that is done I do not know.
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Gijs Verdick didn't survive unfortunately Sad R.I.P.

His organs will be donated so others can hopefully survive.
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Strydz
Selwink wrote:
Gijs Verdick didn't survive unfortunately Sad R.I.P.

His organs will be donated so others can hopefully survive.


Sad news indeed but I do admire that his organs will be donated
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cunego59
The Cyclassics currently don't have a name sponsor for next year, so this year's edition may be the last in its current form. According to this article (German), the organizers have offers from companies who want to transfer the race to other cities, one being in Germany, the other in a neighboring country, but they're still making efforts to keep in in Hamburg.
 
Luxemburger
Would it be still a WorldTour race if it moves to another city?
 
Ollfardh
Germany can't really afford to lose their only WT race, cycling has already taken a beating there in the last few years.
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cunego59
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Would it be still a WorldTour race if it moves to another city?

Yes, apparently the contract with the UCI only mandates the race to be in Germany or a neighboring Central European country.

The interest of potential sponsors seems to exist, just not of companies located in Hamburg. As far as I understood it, the race itself (including the amateur race that had around 20.000 participants last year) is not endangered, and the organizers have an offer ready to sign to relocate to another city in Germany. But the race "works" incredibly well in Hamburg, so they're still trying to keep it there.
 
Riis123
Talks about the Giro starting in Japan.

A little torn. For sure, it will be a lot more interesting for the viewers compared to the flatlands of Denmark, Ireland etc., but Im pretty torn. Its very different to those countries and different from anything we have seen and there lies a big market in Asia. They are talking about 4 days and 2 'rest days'. And the most interesting of it all: talks about climbing Mount Fuji, 10% over 11 km. Pretty insane and something that I wouldn't have one problem with considering my rant over the 3 flat days - rest day - Italy concept we saw in '12, '14 and '16.
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Talks about the Giro starting in Japan.

A little torn. For sure, it will be a lot more interesting for the viewers compared to the flatlands of Denmark, Ireland etc., but Im pretty torn. Its very different to those countries and different from anything we have seen and there lies a big market in Asia. They are talking about 4 days and 2 'rest days'. And the most interesting of it all: talks about climbing Mount Fuji, 10% over 11 km. Pretty insane and something that I wouldn't have one problem with considering my rant over the 3 flat days - rest day - Italy concept we saw in '12, '14 and '16.


This rumour has been around for a while now and it is an absolutely terrible idea, 10 hour flight from Japan to Italy is just one of the many reasons why it would be a mess
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Riis123
Thats why I say I am torn Wink

The perspective of climbing Fuji in week 1 makes up for it. It would be a spectacle. The discussion should be rather advanced so the Italians seems to be okay with it along as the money follows, lets see. They don't have 1, but 2 rest days, but it will still be very complicated.
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Thats why I say I am torn Wink

The perspective of climbing Fuji in week 1 makes up for it. It would be a spectacle. The discussion should be rather advanced so the Italians seems to be okay with it along as the money follows, lets see. They don't have 1, but 2 rest days, but it will still be very complicated.


I would think the teams and riders would be against it
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Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Thats why I say I am torn Wink

The perspective of climbing Fuji in week 1 makes up for it. It would be a spectacle. The discussion should be rather advanced so the Italians seems to be okay with it along as the money follows, lets see. They don't have 1, but 2 rest days, but it will still be very complicated.


I would think the teams and riders would be against it


Well for all the journalists etc. it will be a lot easier than to travel from NL to the south of Italy considering they don't have to go by car now.

Lets also not forgot that Italy has some ties to Japan, see Vini Fantini fx.

Its an extremely big market. If the money is there...
 
Strydz
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Thats why I say I am torn Wink

The perspective of climbing Fuji in week 1 makes up for it. It would be a spectacle. The discussion should be rather advanced so the Italians seems to be okay with it along as the money follows, lets see. They don't have 1, but 2 rest days, but it will still be very complicated.


I would think the teams and riders would be against it


Well for all the journalists etc. it will be a lot easier than to travel from NL to the south of Italy considering they don't have to go by car now.

Lets also not forgot that Italy has some ties to Japan, see Vini Fantini fx.

Its an extremely big market. If the money is there...


Well I say it won't happen even if the $$$ is big enough, we have also had rumours of a U.S.A start and U.A.E start and that hasn't happened so here's hoping this idea gets thrown in the trash where it belongs
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sammyt93
Is there not a risk of extra crashes those first few days back in Italy due to some riders having not yet shaken off the jet lag from such a long flight?
 
Riis123
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Strydz wrote:
Riis123 wrote:
Thats why I say I am torn Wink

The perspective of climbing Fuji in week 1 makes up for it. It would be a spectacle. The discussion should be rather advanced so the Italians seems to be okay with it along as the money follows, lets see. They don't have 1, but 2 rest days, but it will still be very complicated.


I would think the teams and riders would be against it


Well for all the journalists etc. it will be a lot easier than to travel from NL to the south of Italy considering they don't have to go by car now.

Lets also not forgot that Italy has some ties to Japan, see Vini Fantini fx.

Its an extremely big market. If the money is there...


Well I say it won't happen even if the $$$ is big enough, we have also had rumours of a U.S.A start and U.A.E start and that hasn't happened so here's hoping this idea gets thrown in the trash where it belongs


Haha, if they aren't climbing Fuji, 100% with u Wink
 
SSJ2Luigi
they need to work around the jetlag problem to even consider at GT start in not-western-europe countries which I doubt they can in cycling
 
trekbmc
SSJ2Luigi wrote:
they need to work around the jetlag problem to even consider at GT start in not-western-europe countries which I doubt they can in cycling


Simple, 3 stages in Japan, 2 weeks rest-days, other 2 and a half weeks in Italy. Pfft



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Ste117
I think it can work but maybe 5 days then 2 rest days, mainly so the rest days dont come too early in the race. Maybe add an extra stage on to make up for the rest day too so we have 22 stages instead of 21 and 4 days maybe 5.
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matt17br
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I think it can work but maybe 5 days then 2 rest days, mainly so the rest days dont come too early in the race. Maybe add an extra stage on to make up for the rest day too so we have 22 stages instead of 21 and 4 days maybe 5.

I... I reckon it might be easier to just fucking scrap japans idea Pfft
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Ste117
matt17br wrote:
Ste117 wrote:
I think it can work but maybe 5 days then 2 rest days, mainly so the rest days dont come too early in the race. Maybe add an extra stage on to make up for the rest day too so we have 22 stages instead of 21 and 4 days maybe 5.

I... I reckon it might be easier to just fucking scrap japans idea Pfft


That would be the sensible idea but we all Cycling has lost its sensibility now.
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