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Cyclo-Cross: A New Dawn | END
sammyt93
Ian Butler wrote:
NameNationTeamDoB
Elliot CookGreat BritainRandstad4/12/1989
Francis N. VagueBelgium, WallonieTeam BKCP-Powerplus7/11/1995
Christian SchiltzLuxembourgTeam BKCP-Powerplus11/2/1994
Sylvain LipawskySwitzerlandBauknecht-Author6/17/1992
Matt MazzarelliItaly (Apulia)Team Mapei11/17/1992
Hafthor EldfjallssonIcelandTeam Odfjell11/26/1988
Eddie GoldenbergUnited States, NVBlue Bell CX2/2/1993
Milan ListerijnNew-ZealandTeam Lotto-Fidea2/9/1997
Michael BollingerAustraliaGlasgow City Council4/17/1995
Shay GormleyIrelandTeam Red Bull7/26/1991
Mikel HammarlingSwedenTeam Odfjell7/7/1988
Baris DaoDenmarkRandstad1/20/1991
Estifanos MutahiKenyaNamDeb CycloX Project4/22/1994
Iban EtxeberdeaSpain (Euskadi)Vittel5/1/1995
Naveed AlinejadIranTeam Lotto-Fidea3/6/1992
Tariq FaizullahAfghanistanIttehad Chemicals2/16/1995
Fred MarksonUnited States, NYBlue Bell CX6/6/1996
Sven WellingBelgium, FlandersTeam BKCP-Powerplus3/23/1984
Guido ViscontiBelgium, FlandersTeam Lotto-Fidea12/12/1996
Max PowerUnited States, TXBlue Bell CX1/12/1994
Lachy BauerNew-ZealandAll Blacks6/3/1988
Rudy VerbovenBelgium, FlandersTopsport Vlaanderen10/22/1993
Jan SoucekCzech RepublicBauknecht-Author1/31/1993
Gregory BernardLuxembourgTorku Åžekerspor2/1/1989
Mustafa MoliNamibiaNamDeb CycloX Project6/15/1994
NameNationTeamDoB
Arda AkdenizTurkeyTorku Åžekerspor2/1/1993
Karol KonvaSlovakiaBauknecht-Author3/23/1991
Ferdi KloetNetherlandsRandstad5/14/1987
Pierre LipawskySwitzerlandVittel9/21/1994
Camilo OsorioColombiaVittel9/22/1995
Thijs Van LookerenNetherlandsGlasgow City Council12/20/1986
Milan VermeulenBelgium, FlandersTopsport Vlaanderen31/06/1993
Timi KokkonenFinlandTeam Odfjell7/6/1988
Amadou BakariGabonTeam BAKARI1/1/1987
Mohuti SowBotswanaNamDeb CycloX Project9/30/1996
Matthias BarthezFranceVittel12/4/1988
Dirk AccostellaNetherlandsTeam Mapei5/5/1996
Andrew McLaughlinGreat BritainGlasgow City Council5/16/1990
Stan Van OverbergheBelgium, FlandersTopsport Vlaanderen5/7/1992
Nicky Van DrentheNetherlandsRandstad1/1/1992
Alfonso MunozSpainGiant-Alpecin5/8/1988
Robert WellsGreat BritainGlasgow City Council11/19/1986
Fabrizio LorenziItalyTeam Mapei5/12/1994
Lars LejeuneBelgium, BrusselTopsport Vlaanderen1984
Pierre LavigneFranceVittel7/14/1996
Chris YoungCanadaBlue Bell CX10/06/1992
Lars Van HennepNetherlandsRandstad12/24/1991
Nic HashirGreat BritainGlasgow City Council1984
Arthur LedouxNew-ZealandAll Blacks01/24/1994
Louis ListerijnBelgiumTeam BKCP-Powerplus04/05/1998
NameNationTeamDoB
Paul RosanskiGermanyGiant-Alpecin06/25/1996
Matt PayneNew-ZealandAll Blacks06/17/1996
Robin HuserGermanyGiant-Alpecin08/17/1996
Daniel BruggemannGermanyGiant-Alpecin05/01/1982
Olivier DuboisSwitzerlandTeam Red Bull03/25/1989
Alessio ForcelliniSan MarinoTeam Red Bull05/03/1997
Pieter Van DyckNetherlandsRandstad1994
Pépé RenoirFranceVittel1993
Henry GeorgesFranceGiant-Alpecin1993
Mark D'AnversBelgiumTeam Lotto-Fidea1980
Jens Van EyckBelgiumTopsport Vlaanderen1995
Toon Van EyckBelgiumTopsport Vlaanderen1997
Dirk LombaertsBelgiumTopsport Vlaanderen1996


Some of the dates don't match up since it got screwed up using different formats, but the year is always correct Smile

Now we are late October 2016.


Ian could we get this on the first page of the thread please, I had a bit of a hard time finding it when I wanted to check back how young Listerijn was for my Dubois post.

Also with the calendar are the rider's getting a week off after the Christmas Classic? Seeing as if Christmas is a Sunday then otherwise wouldn't Fujicross still be in December and Pyeongchang on New Years Day?

On an unrelated note, is there anyone Milan's not had an exchange with? he forgot to mention that he seems to have a rivalry with Dubois in his recent piece considering there's been comments going back and forth between the 2 a couple of times this season which I thought I'd continue to build on in my latest piece.
 
jandal7
sammyt93 wrote:
On an unrelated note, is there anyone Milan's not had an exchange with? he forgot to mention that he seems to have a rivalry with Dubois in his recent piece considering there's been comments going back and forth between the 2 a couple of times this season which I thought I'd continue to build on in my latest piece.

Well in general he's young (well, always young Pfft) and a bit tetchy but generally a grounded guy who's still learning how to act with the CX world's eyes on him. I'd like to think his growing up in the CX World mirrors mine on the site Pfft I'd like to point out the thing with Dubois should never have happened as it started with one of my posts in the general thread afaik with a post about first names or smth iirc, which didn't reflect Milan's opinion Wink

But with Dubois, interesting comments but Milan really had nothing much to talk about, but yeah he did want to get the point across Pfft He'll stay grounded though, don't worry. I think he's got a whole "media overestimate me but others underestimate me" thing going on, but he only gets annoyed with the media bit. I don't think he viewed Dubois as someone he disliked or had any beef with, more someone who he'd had an altercation with but had been resolved, as opposed to Goldenberg which was much more heated and although Milan is over it and has moved on, remains unresolved between the two. Nice post though and some food for thought for The Jack's next blog Wink

To the point at hand, only three (two fairly minor) war of words, but he generally is immaturely fired up whenever someone disses him, but at the same time respects everyone and isn't really outwardly arrogant, as I have no real desire to rp someone who is wholly arrogant, say Cook (nothing against them or their users, btw). So Goldie was him baiting Milan and Milan falling for it after, idk really Pfft Matt I guess was baiting/poking him and saying

Milan being good but not good enough

which Milan handled pretty well for him. And Dubois was just differing opinions followed by Dubois implying that Mark would focus on Milan to tutor due to J7 sports, which Milan (or was it Mark?) pretty vehemently denied Pfft

In true Milan fashion, that got way too long from a simple disagreement Pfft
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Shonak
If Vague's collarbone is broken it's season end for him then. He alread lost the Superprestige due to injury once I don't want to see that happen again, at least not just yet Smile
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matt17br
Jeez 126 pages. Anyway Matt didn't even want to bait him, it was just his honest thought about Milan. What Matt says unless he explicitly states otherwise is always what his mind tells him to say Pfft

He doesn't give a fuck really
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Ian Butler
sammyt93 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
NameNationTeamDoB
Elliot CookGreat BritainRandstad4/12/1989
Francis N. VagueBelgium, WallonieTeam BKCP-Powerplus7/11/1995
Christian SchiltzLuxembourgTeam BKCP-Powerplus11/2/1994
Sylvain LipawskySwitzerlandBauknecht-Author6/17/1992
Matt MazzarelliItaly (Apulia)Team Mapei11/17/1992
Hafthor EldfjallssonIcelandTeam Odfjell11/26/1988
Eddie GoldenbergUnited States, NVBlue Bell CX2/2/1993
Milan ListerijnNew-ZealandTeam Lotto-Fidea2/9/1997
Michael BollingerAustraliaGlasgow City Council4/17/1995
Shay GormleyIrelandTeam Red Bull7/26/1991
Mikel HammarlingSwedenTeam Odfjell7/7/1988
Baris DaoDenmarkRandstad1/20/1991
Estifanos MutahiKenyaNamDeb CycloX Project4/22/1994
Iban EtxeberdeaSpain (Euskadi)Vittel5/1/1995
Naveed AlinejadIranTeam Lotto-Fidea3/6/1992
Tariq FaizullahAfghanistanIttehad Chemicals2/16/1995
Fred MarksonUnited States, NYBlue Bell CX6/6/1996
Sven WellingBelgium, FlandersTeam BKCP-Powerplus3/23/1984
Guido ViscontiBelgium, FlandersTeam Lotto-Fidea12/12/1996
Max PowerUnited States, TXBlue Bell CX1/12/1994
Lachy BauerNew-ZealandAll Blacks6/3/1988
Rudy VerbovenBelgium, FlandersTopsport Vlaanderen10/22/1993
Jan SoucekCzech RepublicBauknecht-Author1/31/1993
Gregory BernardLuxembourgTorku Åžekerspor2/1/1989
Mustafa MoliNamibiaNamDeb CycloX Project6/15/1994
NameNationTeamDoB
Arda AkdenizTurkeyTorku Åžekerspor2/1/1993
Karol KonvaSlovakiaBauknecht-Author3/23/1991
Ferdi KloetNetherlandsRandstad5/14/1987
Pierre LipawskySwitzerlandVittel9/21/1994
Camilo OsorioColombiaVittel9/22/1995
Thijs Van LookerenNetherlandsGlasgow City Council12/20/1986
Milan VermeulenBelgium, FlandersTopsport Vlaanderen31/06/1993
Timi KokkonenFinlandTeam Odfjell7/6/1988
Amadou BakariGabonTeam BAKARI1/1/1987
Mohuti SowBotswanaNamDeb CycloX Project9/30/1996
Matthias BarthezFranceVittel12/4/1988
Dirk AccostellaNetherlandsTeam Mapei5/5/1996
Andrew McLaughlinGreat BritainGlasgow City Council5/16/1990
Stan Van OverbergheBelgium, FlandersTopsport Vlaanderen5/7/1992
Nicky Van DrentheNetherlandsRandstad1/1/1992
Alfonso MunozSpainGiant-Alpecin5/8/1988
Robert WellsGreat BritainGlasgow City Council11/19/1986
Fabrizio LorenziItalyTeam Mapei5/12/1994
Lars LejeuneBelgium, BrusselTopsport Vlaanderen1984
Pierre LavigneFranceVittel7/14/1996
Chris YoungCanadaBlue Bell CX10/06/1992
Lars Van HennepNetherlandsRandstad12/24/1991
Nic HashirGreat BritainGlasgow City Council1984
Arthur LedouxNew-ZealandAll Blacks01/24/1994
Louis ListerijnBelgiumTeam BKCP-Powerplus04/05/1998
NameNationTeamDoB
Paul RosanskiGermanyGiant-Alpecin06/25/1996
Matt PayneNew-ZealandAll Blacks06/17/1996
Robin HuserGermanyGiant-Alpecin08/17/1996
Daniel BruggemannGermanyGiant-Alpecin05/01/1982
Olivier DuboisSwitzerlandTeam Red Bull03/25/1989
Alessio ForcelliniSan MarinoTeam Red Bull05/03/1997
Pieter Van DyckNetherlandsRandstad1994
Pépé RenoirFranceVittel1993
Henry GeorgesFranceGiant-Alpecin1993
Mark D'AnversBelgiumTeam Lotto-Fidea1980
Jens Van EyckBelgiumTopsport Vlaanderen1995
Toon Van EyckBelgiumTopsport Vlaanderen1997
Dirk LombaertsBelgiumTopsport Vlaanderen1996


Some of the dates don't match up since it got screwed up using different formats, but the year is always correct Smile

Now we are late October 2016.


Ian could we get this on the first page of the thread please, I had a bit of a hard time finding it when I wanted to check back how young Listerijn was for my Dubois post.

Also with the calendar are the rider's getting a week off after the Christmas Classic? Seeing as if Christmas is a Sunday then otherwise wouldn't Fujicross still be in December and Pyeongchang on New Years Day?

On an unrelated note, is there anyone Milan's not had an exchange with? he forgot to mention that he seems to have a rivalry with Dubois in his recent piece considering there's been comments going back and forth between the 2 a couple of times this season which I thought I'd continue to build on in my latest piece.


Good idea, I posted it at the bottom of the first post of this thread and will update it every year Smile

Will check about the schedule later. See how it works out in January.
 
Luxemburger
According to the CX calendar Fuji is on the 4th of January (first Wednesday of January 2017) so the riders should have a week break.
 
TheManxMissile
Milan just starting fights with everyone. The guy clearly has some issues and entourage equivalent to Armstrongs pushing him forwards. The peloton needs to band together and deal with the agressive Bouhanni-esque lunatic that is Listerijn Wink
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Ian Butler
TheManxMissile wrote:
Milan just starting fights with everyone. The guy clearly has some issues and entourage equivalent to Armstrongs pushing him forwards. The peloton needs to band together and deal with the agressive Bouhanni-esque lunatic that is Listerijn Wink


Everyone except his eternal bro Lipawsky Grin
 
jandal7
Ian Butler wrote:
TheManxMissile wrote:
Milan just starting fights with everyone. The guy clearly has some issues and entourage equivalent to Armstrongs pushing him forwards. The peloton needs to band together and deal with the agressive Bouhanni-esque lunatic that is Listerijn Wink


Everyone except his eternal bro Lipawsky Grin

<3

Also, I must tip my hat to TMM for doing it in this thread where I can't do anything Pfft
Edited by jandal7 on 16-04-2016 10:35
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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trekbmc
Sounds like Sylvain needs to start a fight with someone other than Vague. Pfft

Also, Ian, is it alright if Chetout races Alpe d'Huez?



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Ian Butler
trekbmc wrote:
Sounds like Sylvain needs to start a fight with someone other than Vague. Pfft

Also, Ian, is it alright if Chetout races Alpe d'Huez?


Unfortunately, the results are already in.
He could start if you want to, but he won't finish Wink
Alpe is a tough race anyway, last year we didn't have too many finishers, so not the easiest cross to come from the U23 for the first time Smile
 
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jandal7
Ian Butler wrote:
Unfortunately, the results are already in.


that pace Grin Hopefully I can beat you to the buzzer with this blog post Pfft
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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Ian Butler
jandal7 wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Unfortunately, the results are already in.


that pace Grin Hopefully I can beat you to the buzzer with this blog post Pfft


Well I just did the result half an hour ago, using a break from work. Going back to work now Smile
Report shouldn't be for another few days, though, so there's time for blog posts!
 
trekbmc
Ian Butler wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
Sounds like Sylvain needs to start a fight with someone other than Vague. Pfft

Also, Ian, is it alright if Chetout races Alpe d'Huez?


Unfortunately, the results are already in.
He could start if you want to, but he won't finish Wink
Alpe is a tough race anyway, last year we didn't have too many finishers, so not the easiest cross to come from the U23 for the first time Smile


Would it be ok if he starts but fails to finish? Just to keep consistency with what he said? Smile

He's hopelessly inconsistent anyway, So not finishing is pretty likely. Pfft



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Ian Butler
trekbmc wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
trekbmc wrote:
Sounds like Sylvain needs to start a fight with someone other than Vague. Pfft

Also, Ian, is it alright if Chetout races Alpe d'Huez?


Unfortunately, the results are already in.
He could start if you want to, but he won't finish Wink
Alpe is a tough race anyway, last year we didn't have too many finishers, so not the easiest cross to come from the U23 for the first time Smile


Would it be ok if he starts but fails to finish? Just to keep consistency with what he said? Smile

He's hopelessly inconsistent anyway, So not finishing is pretty likely. Pfft


Sure, no problem. Just send me a pm reminder later today, can't access the file right now Wink
 
TheManxMissile
jandal7 wrote:
Also, I must tip my hat to TMM for doing it in this thread where I can't do anything Pfft


Don't worry, you've mentioned Goldie enough times recently you'll get a game reply soon enough Wink
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Shonak
Who is Chetout, I mean was there a character sign-up like with TMMs Young? At least he's not listed in the age-table (thanks sammy).. Don't really think it's important, just wondering about a new char joining midseason and would like to read up on him if there's a sign-up post in the General Thread.
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jandal7
Afaik he's a guy in the U-23s looking to join next year full time and a few races this year from this post. Iirc there was no public form, not that I'm bothered by there not being. Would be nice if he's joining us for a few races to see his sign-up though?
24/02/21 - kandesbunzler said “I don't drink famous people."
15/08/22 - SotD said "Your [jandal's] humour is overrated"
11/06/24 - knockout said "Winning is fine I guess. Truth be told this felt completely unimportant."

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sammyt93
@Jandal

didn't want to quote the long post but...

I wasn't counting the names thing, although that is a Dubois trait I should start building on in future blog posts of his so thank you for reminding me about that.

The other one you highlighted about the tutoring thing was meant as a backhanded criticism of Listerijn but more as a Mark's a great guy I get along with but I feel sorry for him kind of thing then a straight out dig at Milan.

I was talking more about the misunderstood sponsor discussion that Dubois took the wrong way stemming from a Listerijn post that I think was meant to be about the classics, the recent half dig about still being ahead of Dubois in one of the rankings (which I can't seem to find to quote) and the "going on about it" was meant as a tongue in cheek parody of what Milan said when Dubois first joined about how it seemed like the trials background and technical skills were something Olivier was highlighting too much.

I don't see it as an explosive rivalry between them but I get the impression that there is something there under the surface, sort of bubbling away, and at least from Dubois' perspective Milan's the rider he would be most annoyed at finishing second to.

I really wanted to pick up on the drinking thing before realising that Listerijn is 19 and not 17 as I first thought, I went with a stay grounded kind of message instead as that kind of seemed less aggressive but depending on how things play out (both between the two of them and in general) I might come back to that regardless.
 
trekbmc
Here's Chetout's form then, the stats mean almost nothing though Pfft

Name: Blel Chetout
Nationality (region): France (Aquitaine)
Date of Birth: 21/3/1993 (22 years old)
Height: * 178cm
Weight: * 76kg
Specialty: ** Inconsistency: Will sometimes be spectacular in his performances, if he feels right. Sometimes he can just win a race out of nowhere.
Bad Weather Specialist: He's great in bad weather, he feels his best when everybody else feels their worst, well not always.*
Impulsive Rider
Weakness: ** Inconsistency: A lot of the time will struggle and not be able to keep up, winning a classification is almost impossible for him.
Bad in Good weather: Everybody else feels better when the sun is out, he doesn't usually.*
Handling Media
Impulsive Rider

*These are just general, he's an enigma with these things.

Biography: Blel was born in Bordeaux, France. He was an introvert by nature and loved to watch the tour de France. Seeing this inspired him to get out on the bike and he would ride for hours, loving training and at the age of 13 he showed up at his first race a road race near his home, he won, attacking from the start and staying away the whole race, he was amazed and more motivated then ever, but came back in a higher grade and lost badly. When the CX season came he wasn't liking riding his bike anymore but decided to give it one more go, his first CX race, in Aquitaine, flat except for a small sharp hill. The rain was pouring and they were considering calling the race off but given it was CX they didn't. The race began at a frantic pace, being inspired by the rain in a way but once they hit the first hill Blel went and wasn't seen again. He came back the next the next week and tried the same, but they wouldn't let him get away and he only won one more race that season. Still he loved it and throughout his young career he has had some terrible performances, in over a fifth of his races he has not finished or come last, but some spectacular wins as well, despite only ever finishing 2nd once. Still he's France's biggest hope to get back on the CX scene.


Stats: [Choose between: very low, low, medium, high, very high]

Bike Handling (technical): Very High - Very Low
Sand: medium - Low
Uphill: High - Very Low
Cobblestones: High - Medium
Sprinting: High - Very Low
Explosiveness: Very High - High
Flat (TT/riding hard): Very High - Very Low
Power: Very High - Very Low
Running: Very High - Low
Snow/Ice: Very High - Very Low
Jumping: Very High - Very Low

Here I've given relative stats, between a perfect day and a terrible day, all of these are relative of course. (Sorry that a lot of them are Very High to Very Low, for them the order of how good he is Explosiveness, Snow/Ice, Bike Handling, Power, Flat, Jumping)




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