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2016 Real Jerseys
haasje33
The original jersey was made by Nlet, but it's the 2015 version. I couldn't find any confirmation whether they are riding in the same kit as last year.
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haasje33
ivaneurope wrote:
Has anyone made a better version of the Southeast jersey?


The PCM.daily DB Team is using Francisco's version as well. The jersey is of high quality, apart from some logos which could be bent to make the jersey look a bit better in-game. We're talking about small details here though.

In my opinion you're disrespecting the jerseymakers here. First you edited over MartyC's Crelan jersey and didn't give him credit for the base work, but just put your own signature over it. At that time I chose not to say anything about it, but now you give me no choice.

Second of all, you shouldn't ask for a "better version" of a jersey. These graphic artists, including myself, put a lot of time and effort in these jerseys. When you get back to the forum a few days later and find out your jersey isn't "good enough" that could be a huge setback in motivation to create more jerseys.
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ivaneurope
haasje33 wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Has anyone made a better version of the Southeast jersey?


The PCM.daily DB Team is using Francisco's version as well. The jersey is of high quality, apart from some logos which could be bent to make the jersey look a bit better in-game. We're talking about small details here though.

In my opinion you're disrespecting the jerseymakers here. First you edited over MartyC's Crelan jersey and didn't give him credit for the base work, but just put your own signature over it. At that time I chose not to say anything about it, but now you give me no choice.

Second of all, you shouldn't ask for a "better version" of a jersey. These graphic artists, including myself, put a lot of time and effort in these jerseys. When you get back to the forum a few days later and find out your jersey isn't "good enough" that could be a huge setback in motivation to create more jerseys.


Since you broke your silence let me break my silence - I think that I'm not appreciated as a jersey maker by the others - including you. I think that when I tried to make the Wanty jersey and shelved it since it has been already made someone here bashed me that I've given up on the Wanty jersey easily and called me a quitter. What's the point of finishing a jersey that in few days someone else will make it better and mine will look like some 6 year old made it.

Regarding disrespect, when I made some NC jerseys from Marsu's Katusha and Sky templates he didn't had anything against it. I even proposed to upload them in his OneDrive since this is his work after all, but he said that this is not his creations. I've retained his signature and add my own to point out that this is an collaboration work.

What about when you bashed francisco's jerseys? I've decided not to stick up my nose in this, but by saying that his work is not "good enough" to be in the PCM Daily Shirt DB, now I can snap. Not only you made him look like amatuer, but IMO you've disrespected his entire work prior to that. He didn't bend the logos - so what. At least it's something
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haasje33
ivaneurope wrote:

Since you broke your silence let me break my silence - I think that I'm not appreciated as a jersey maker by the others - including you. I think that when I tried to make the Wanty jersey and shelved it since it has been already made someone here bashed me that I've given up on the Wanty jersey easily and called me a quitter. What's the point of finishing a jersey that in few days someone else will make it better and mine will look like some 6 year old made it.


First of all, I didn't have anything to do with this, so don't know why you mentioned me. Usually I've got the backs of everyone who is making the effort of creating graphics, that would include you if I spotted this, which I sadly didn't. I would have wrote a similar reply to him as I did to you.

ivaneurope wrote:
Regarding disrespect, when I made some NC jerseys from Marsu's Katusha and Sky templates he didn't had anything against it. I even proposed to upload them in his OneDrive since this is his work after all, but he said that this is not his creations. I've retained his signature and add my own to point out that this is an collaboration work.


That's exactly the point with MartyC's jersey: you should have given him credits by mentioning him in the signature or adding yours to his signature, like you did with the Katusha NCs.

ivaneurope wrote:
What about when you bashed francisco's jerseys? I've decided not to stick up my nose in this, but by saying that his work is not "good enough" to be in the PCM Daily Shirt DB, now I can snap. Not only you made him look like amatuer, but IMO you've disrespected his entire work prior to that. He didn't bend the logos - so what. At least it's something


First of all, I never said his jerseys aren't good enough for the PCM.daily DB, on the contrary, I said we actually are using almost all of his jerseys. I think you're mixing up the stuff I've said to MartyC and to Francisco. I didn't attack either of them, I just gave them some tips, so they could continue to improve themselves.

I'd like to finish by saying I always stick up for graphic artists and will keep doing this.
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mede33
Will do the Southeast jersey, i just don't know when.
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hanspetter61
haasje33 wrote:
The original jersey was made by Nlet, but it's the 2015 version. I couldn't find any confirmation whether they are riding in the same kit as last year.


I checked if Coop Østerhus have done any change to. Couldnt find any change on their homepage or other Places. But its a small team and maybe dont start season before its april. Cant wait that long "if" its something change. So until then this is the newest Version.
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-Gaz-
matt17br wrote:
Yes I had seen it Gaz, however some details like the 15 season logo in the back and the shapes in the lower part of the front changed since the last year Smile

If you look closely at the pics I posted there is less black in there.


Maybe a little bit better. After that, I need help to see problems about shapes, because I didn't see what you want to say

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matt17br
Cool Smile

Ok look closely in here, this is the 2015 jersey: https://prntscr.com/9whxay

Now look in here, this is the front of the 2016 one: https://prntscr.com/9whxws

If you notice, there's less of those black shapes right under the BMC logo. If you compare the 2016 jersey to your creation you'll see there's a slight difference there as well.
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ivaneurope
Credit goes to bwiggins for the NC jersey base

More Dimension Data NC's
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid...lder%2cpng
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haasje33
I created the new SEG Racing Academy jersey, but Photobucket is down for maintenance. Will upload it as soon as Photobucket is back online.
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PCM Focus
Do you mean this SEG team?
i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/Sem2014/FDB%20private/2016_seg_maillot_zpsmffxpwjr.png
 
haasje33
I mean this one:
SEG Racing Academy

i64.tinypic.com/avkiz4.png


As I said to Mede33 earlier, we don't have the time to check all forums for jerseys.
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the_hoyle
ivaneurope wrote:
Credit goes to bwiggins for the NC jersey base

More Dimension Data NC's
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid...lder%2cpng

Could you have the GBR jersey as the stripes instead of a Union Flag? Looks so much better and a flag would never be allowed IRL
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the_hoyle
Raleigh - GAC

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Jersey is correct from what I can see from the lack of decent pictures on twitter etc

The shorts are a cross between the ones revealed at Derby Velodrome (in skinsuit form) and recent CX races in the UK, and ones worn by a rider in photos on twitter. Will update with full corrected version when I can see it in real road races.
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Metec-THK (MET):

(only announced on twitter not yet seen and enough detailled but for info)

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ivaneurope
the_hoyle wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Credit goes to bwiggins for the NC jersey base

More Dimension Data NC's
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid...lder%2cpng

Could you have the GBR jersey as the stripes instead of a Union Flag? Looks so much better and a flag would never be allowed IRL


I don't know how it will look like - it is gonna be too similar with the dutch NC in that aspect. For Australia I may use the green/yellow stripes and for NZ - the silver fern
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the_hoyle
ivaneurope wrote:
the_hoyle wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Credit goes to bwiggins for the NC jersey base

More Dimension Data NC's
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid...lder%2cpng

Could you have the GBR jersey as the stripes instead of a Union Flag? Looks so much better and a flag would never be allowed IRL


I don't know how it will look like - it is gonna be too similar with the dutch NC in that aspect. For Australia I may use the green/yellow stripes and for NZ - the silver fern

Yes it will be similar, but it is a different blue and red so I think it will be fine
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ivaneurope
the_hoyle wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
the_hoyle wrote:
ivaneurope wrote:
Credit goes to bwiggins for the NC jersey base

More Dimension Data NC's
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid...lder%2cpng

Could you have the GBR jersey as the stripes instead of a Union Flag? Looks so much better and a flag would never be allowed IRL


I don't know how it will look like - it is gonna be too similar with the dutch NC in that aspect. For Australia I may use the green/yellow stripes and for NZ - the silver fern

Yes it will be similar, but it is a different blue and red so I think it will be fine


Made V2 of GBR NC as well as Australia and NZ NC jerseys - all of which you can find on my OneDrive
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PCM Focus
haasje33 wrote:
I mean this one:
SEG Racing Academy

i64.tinypic.com/avkiz4.png


As I said to Mede33 earlier, we don't have the time to check all forums for jerseys.


Yes, it's sometimes difficult to check everything.
Jo Piels is already made. You can see it Sunday. Wink
 
-Gaz-
matt17br wrote:
Cool Smile

Ok look closely in here, this is the 2015 jersey: https://prntscr.com/9whxay

Now look in here, this is the front of the 2016 one: https://prntscr.com/9whxws

If you notice, there's less of those black shapes right under the BMC logo. If you compare the 2016 jersey to your creation you'll see there's a slight difference there as well.


Like this:

img15.hostingpics.net/pics/508291maillot.png
 
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