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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-10-2015 10:27
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Riders eligible for the U23 World Championships (need to be confirmed, otherwise they're not participating:
Mustafa Moli
Camilo Osorio
Josiah Bennett
Pierre Lipawsky
Milan Vermeulen
Mohuti Sow
Dirk Accostella
Stan Van Overberghe
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-10-2015 10:42
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Hmmm, might be worth purposfully under-racing Markson next year so he'll be U23 Eligible. He'd certainly be an interesting rider to see in that race, rather than the WC where he'll be pretty much useless. And then again the year after, actually could do it quite a few times 
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-10-2015 11:06
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Well, not sure yet if next year we'll have the same arrangement for starters. Might keep this system, might increase the limit (top 40) or might go back to the earlier system. Will depend largely on your reactions.
Anyway, the race preview!
Will also do a more detailed preview from The Scope, probably tomorrow.
Though the route is already written down pretty much in detail, so you can get to work and perhaps think of a good tactic  |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-10-2015 11:12
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Also perhaps worth mentioning: I used the following pictures to try and envisage the route. Hope you see it, too, when you read the route with these pictures
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| Shonak |
Posted on 29-10-2015 11:50
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Stan Van Overberghe will ride U23. Also very great preview! I had hoped for a finish in Siena itself though (maybe riding the full circuit and in the last lap it goes up that steep narrow road) but beauty of tuscany needs to be seen as well.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 29-10-2015 11:52
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Yes Siena was an option but I decided to go for the white roads finish. Uphill finish would be great (perhaps a race idea for a new race next season) but decided to go with a less-climbing friendly finish. Now we have many potential winners.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-10-2015 12:04
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Ian Butler wrote:
Uphill finish would be great (perhaps a race idea for a new race next season)
To Google Maps!
Can already think of a brilliant location to test out an Uphill finish as part of the NES competition... actually i can think of many more... i'll get to work
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| Shonak |
Posted on 29-10-2015 12:18
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I still hope for a Velodrome finish one of these days just sayin.
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-10-2015 12:24
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Shonak wrote:
I still hope for a Velodrome finish one of these days just sayin.
To Google Maps!
Anyone else got suggestions?
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| Selwink |
Posted on 29-10-2015 15:28
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Let the war begin 
Also, a few new suggestions just because I felt like
Place (nation, city): Anchorage, Alaska
Technical information: [enter a number between 1 - 5, with 1 being very low / nothing and 5 being very high
Technicality: 4
Sand: 1
Uphill: 5
Length of 1 lap: 5
Cobbled sections: 0
Final sprint (length of the final straight road): 2
Other information: An early-season race ideally. Alaska is known to be very cold, but with the frost not striking entirely yet, the muddy, wet underground just outside the city the cross is very hard. The race is ideal for powerhouses.
Place (nation, city): Arcachon, France
Technical information: [enter a number between 1 - 5, with 1 being very low / nothing and 5 being very high
Technicality: 5
Sand: 5
Uphill: 4
Length of 1 lap: 5
Cobbled sections: 1
Final sprint (length of the final straight road): 2
Other information: A real beach cross. The race is very hard due to its presence of the dunes, and another, slightly unique feature. The bikes will get dirty on the beach, but the riders will have to see them clean up when riding through the sea for a small bit. Immediately after exiting the water a tough climb appears, and without a chance of accelerating properly the walking might prove to be decisive here. After a slippery, sandy downhill a 120° corner introduces a short finishing straight.
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Place (nation, city): Bad Berka, Germany
Technical information: [enter a number between 1 - 5, with 1 being very low / nothing and 5 being very high
Technicality: 3
Sand: 1
Uphill: 4
Length of 1 lap: 3
Cobbled sections: 1
Final sprint (length of the final straight road): 4
Other information: Around this German town there are a few grassy hills. Two short, explosive climbs and a long climb, followed by a narrow descent through this woods make this a cross to not underestimate. The downhill does not consist of many corners, but it is not without risks.
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| matt17br |
Posted on 29-10-2015 15:33
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A real beach cross
Sorry but you are just copying Vuelta organizators now
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-10-2015 15:36
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matt17br wrote:
A real beach cross
Sorry but you are just copying Vuelta organizators now
I think he just copied the Rio Beach Cross more
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-10-2015 15:40
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Selwink wrote:
Place (nation, city): Anchorage, Alaska
Other information: An early-season race ideally. Alaska is known to be very cold, but with the frost not striking entirely yet, the muddy, wet underground just outside the city the cross is very hard. The race is ideal for powerhouses.
Average Temps of around -5/-6 Centigrade (an average high of -2.4, average low of -8.5) i'd say frost will definately be on the ground (assuming it's November to match up with the other North American races) and that the ground itse;f will be more frozen than muddy
I know this because i was looking at basing a race in Fairbanks but decided it wasn't too feasable
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| TheManxMissile |
Posted on 29-10-2015 16:10
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Going for the triple post...
Quickly whipped up these two races. One with an uphill finish and one with a Velodrom finish.
 Signal Hill
Spoiler Place (nation, city): Signal Hill, Cape Town, RSA
Technical Info
Technicality: 3
Sand: 1
Uphill: 5
Length of Lap: 3km
Cobbles: 1
Sprint: 650m uphill
Other Info: Begins atop the Hill. Charges down towards the V&A Waterfront area. Twists and turns and obstacles around the flat waterfront area. Great viewing opportunities for the crowds with shops and eateries and multi-storey areas so you can look down from above. Race heads out back towards Signal Hill. Zig Zags part way up then turns back down a sandy track. Finally cuts back up towards he summit, uphill towards the line with option for a 50-100m flat sprint.
Could test out the uphill finish as part of the NES, replacing the Johannesburg round. Could just as easily fit in place of Port Elizabeth or Struuisbai as well. For the TV cameras it's a dream event with views of Cape Town, Signal Hill itself as well as Green Point Stadium (instead of going to the V&A the course could go into the Stadium, wouldn't that be f*cking cool CX'ing in front of a massive stadium crownd) and a backdrop of the coast and Table Mountain. Plus it really is catered for the spectators in the town part of the race.
 Cali
Spoiler Place: Cali, Colombia
Technicality: 3
Sand: 3
Uphill: 0
Length of Lap: 2.5km
Cobbles: 0
Sprint: 200m
Other Info: Begins in the Velodromo Alcides Nieto Patino. Heads outside to the surrounding area. Various twists turns obstacles. Basically a nice and normal, if a bit flat, CX course. Takes most a lap around the Pista de Patinaje Mundialista (running track) before racing back into the Velodrome. Most of a lap of the Velodrome to finish.
Based around the famous Velodrome that is a big part of the UCI Track World Cup. Colombia is big for cycling and Cali is one of the hearts of that passion. A race in Colombia, in the Velodrome? Just makes sense.
Plus imagine the ticketing opportunities in the Velodrom and Running Track. On the track i think there could be some great obstacles like a water jump and hurdles (obviously not full size ones... or maybe...)
Alongside those. The Lee Valley race could easily finish on a Velodrome, seeing as the course is already right next to it. Bristol can shift it's specific location slightly to finish on a hill, it is a hilly city with plenty of options. Plus of mine i can see Twin Peaks, USA, ending on an uphill as well seeing as most of the race is already on hills.
That's just off the top of my head for now.
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| Selwink |
Posted on 29-10-2015 16:17
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TheManxMissile wrote:
Selwink wrote:
Place (nation, city): Anchorage, Alaska
Other information: An early-season race ideally. Alaska is known to be very cold, but with the frost not striking entirely yet, the muddy, wet underground just outside the city the cross is very hard. The race is ideal for powerhouses.
Average Temps of around -5/-6 Centigrade (an average high of -2.4, average low of -8.5) i'd say frost will definately be on the ground (assuming it's November to match up with the other North American races) and that the ground itse;f will be more frozen than muddy
I know this because i was looking at basing a race in Fairbanks but decided it wasn't too feasable
Temperatures are higher in Alaska next year due to El Niño, so it shouldn't be frost then
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| jandal7 |
Posted on 29-10-2015 20:13
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Bennett will start. And let the race wars begin, I still only have two this year  But I recommend LLS's Whakapapa course over my other kiwi ones. Will make some more races with google earth () later.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 29-10-2015 23:51
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Lee Valley finish in a Velodrome sounds mighty good.
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| trekbmc |
Posted on 30-10-2015 09:31
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..or maybe Sylvain is seen as a dark horse again?
Thanks for the nice preview jandal, it really makes the worlds exciting with multiple previews and views from different people alongside Ian's.
No mention of Kloet though?!
Now I have to try to work out some tactics.
EDIT: just got the Aosta joke with Sylvain that took me way too long...
Edited by trekbmc on 30-10-2015 09:36
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| Shonak |
Posted on 30-10-2015 09:49
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Great stuff jandal, fun to read. (To me, Vague is technical superior to Matt though, because Francis' skill has been numerous times mentioned by Ian but that's just semantics..)
BRING IT ON IAN! (But please wait till I get my preps out haha)
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 30-10-2015 09:54
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Lovely preview, jandal. Really enjoyed it.
Want to keep you all updated with the current schedule:
I plan to do another in-detail preview by The Scope, much like last year's. I plan to do this this evening.
Saturday is a day of rest and also the last day to send in tactics.
Sunday will be D-Day. Can't plan ahead too much, but I hope to bring you the World championships report at noon-time.
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