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National Championships - Route Votes
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Posted on 06-12-2025 22:54
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| ggDonovan |
Posted on 25-10-2015 12:10
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Edited by jph27 on 25-10-2015 12:26
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| Gustavovskiy |
Posted on 25-10-2015 12:53
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Spoiler | ALB | Hill | | ALG | Hill | | ANG | Mountain | | ARG | Hill | | ARM | Hill | | AUS | Hill | | AUT | Mountain | | BEL | Cobble | | BLR | Mountain | | BOL | Hill | | BRA | Flat | | BUL | Mountain | | BUR | Cobble | | CAN | Flat | | CHL | Mountain | | CHN | Hill | | CMR | Cobble | | COL | Hill | | CRC | Hill | | CRO | Flat | | CUB | Flat | | CYP | Flat | | CZE | Hill | | DEN | Hill | | ERI | Cobble | | ESP | Hill | | EST | Mountain | | FIN | Flat | | FRA | Mountain | | GBR | Hill | | GEO | Mountain | | GER | Hill | | GRE | Hill | | HKG | Flat | | HUN | Hill | | INA | Flat | | IRL | Hill | | IRN | Flat | | ISR | Mountain | | ITA | Hill | | JPN | Flat | | KAZ | Flat | | KEN | Cobble | | KOR | Hill | | LAO | Flat | | LAT | Flat | | LIE | Flat | | LTU | Hill | | LUX | Flat | | MAS | Mountain | | MCD | Hill | | MEX | Flat | | MGL | Hill | | MOL | Flat | | MOR | Flat | | NAM | Flat | | NED | Flat | | NEP | Hill | | NOR | Mountain | | NZL | Hill | | PER | Hill | | PHI | Flat | | POL | Flat | | POR | Mountain | | QAT | Flat | | ROM | Hill | | RSA | Hill | | RUS | Hill | | RWA | Cobble | | SER | Mountain | | SLO | Flat | | SMR | Flat | | SRI | Hill | | SVK | Flat | | SWD | Flat | | SWI | Hill | | SYR | Hill | | THA | Hill | | TPE | Flat | | TUN | Flat | | TUR | hill | | UAE | Flat | | UKR | Flat | | URU | Flat | | USA | Flat | | UZB | Flat | | VEN | Hill | | VIE | Mountain |
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| baseballlover312 |
Posted on 25-10-2015 13:18
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I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of countries with no vested interest in a NC being able to determine the route.
RIP Exxon Duke, David Veilleux, Double Feature, and Monster Energy |
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 25-10-2015 15:13
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baseballlover312 wrote:
I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of countries with no vested interest in a NC being able to determine the route.
I can see your point. I'll see when I am compiling the votes if I want to look into some sort of weighted system based on actual amount of riders a team owns from that country. It would take more time to do, which is why I initially said vote for any, but would be fairer.
If Kenya Airways wants a particular terrain for Kenya, or Ayubowan for Sri Lanka, etc, it sorta seems odd that they don't get that because others, with no interest in the race, have picked something else.
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| Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 26-10-2015 06:58
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Edit: Removed the "s", thanks Count for reminder 
Edited by Avin Wargunnson on 26-10-2015 07:23
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| CountArach |
Posted on 26-10-2015 07:18
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Avin - he said don't add an S onto the end.
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| Luis Leon Sanchez |
Posted on 26-10-2015 08:38
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| beagle |
Posted on 27-10-2015 13:00
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| Smowz |
Posted on 27-10-2015 13:25
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Spoiler | ALB | Hill | | ALG | Hill | | ANG | Hill | | ARG | Mountain | | ARM | Hill | | AUS | Mountain | | AUT | Mountain | | BEL | Cobbles | | BLR | Flat | | BOL | Flat | | BRA | Mountain | | BUL | Cobbles | | BUR | Cobbles | | CAN | Mountain | | CHL | Mountain | | CHN | Flat | | CMR | Hill | | COL | Hill | | CRC | Hill | | CRO | Mountain | | CUB | Flat | | CYP | Flat | | CZE | Flat | | DEN | Cobbles | | ERI | Mountain | | ESP | Flat | | EST | Flat | | FIN | Flat | | FRA | Flat | | GBR | Mountain | | GEO | Mountain | | GER | Mountain | | GRE | Hill | | HKG | Mountain | | HUN | Hill | | INA | Mountain | | IRL | Mountain | | IRN | Mountain | | ISR | Flat | | ITA | Hill | | JPN | Mountain | | KAZ | Flat | | KEN | Hill | | KOR | Mountain | | LAO | Mountain | | LAT | Flat | | LIE | Flat | | LTU | Hill | | LUX | Flat | | MAS | Flat | | MCD | Hill | | MEX | Mountain | | MGL | Mountain | | MOL | Flat | | MOR | Flat | | NAM | Mountain | | NED | Cobbles | | NEP | Hill | | NOR | Cobbles | | NZL | Mountain | | PER | Hill | | PHI | Hill | | POL | Cobbles | | POR | Mountain | | QAT | Flat | | ROM | Mountain | | RSA | Mountain | | RUS | Mountain | | RWA | Mountain | | SER | Mountain | | SLO | Mountain | | SMR | Mountain | | SRI | Mountain | | SVK | Mountain | | SWD | Hill | | SWI | Flat | | SYR | Mountain | | THA | Hill | | TPE | Mountain | | TUN | Flat | | TUR | Mountain | | UAE | Flat | | UKR | Flat | | URU | Mountain | | USA | Cobbles | | UZB | Mountain | | VEN | Hill | | VIE | Mountain |
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 27-10-2015 14:00
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Smowz wrote:
Spoiler | ALB | Hill | | ALG | Hill | | ANG | Hill | | ARG | Mountain | | ARM | Hill | | AUS | Mountain | | AUT | Mountain | | BEL | Cobble | | BLR | Flat | | BOL | Flat | | BRA | Mountain | | BUL | Cobble | | BUR | Cobble | | CAN | Mountain | | CHL | Mountain | | CHN | Flat | | CMR | Hill | | COL | Hill | | CRC | Hill | | CRO | Mountain | | CUB | Flat | | CYP | Flat | | CZE | Flat | | DEN | Cobble | | ERI | Mountain | | ESP | Flat | | EST | Flat | | FIN | Flat | | FRA | Flat | | GBR | Mountain | | GEO | Mountain | | GER | Mountain | | GRE | Hill | | HKG | Mountain | | HUN | Hill | | INA | Mountain | | IRL | Mountain | | IRN | Mountain | | ISR | Flat | | ITA | Hill | | JPN | Mountain | | KAZ | Flat | | KEN | Hill | | KOR | Mountain | | LAO | Mountain | | LAT | Flat | | LIE | Flat | | LTU | Hill | | LUX | Flat | | MAS | Flat | | MCD | Hill | | MEX | Mountain | | MGL | Mountain | | MOL | Flat | | MOR | Flat | | NAM | Mountain | | NED | Cobble | | NEP | Hill | | NOR | Cobble | | NZL | Mountain | | PER | Hill | | PHI | Hill | | POL | Cobble | | POR | Mountain | | QAT | Flat | | ROM | Mountain | | RSA | Mountain | | RUS | Mountain | | RWA | Mountain | | SER | Mountain | | SLO | Mountain | | SMR | Mountain | | SRI | Mountain | | SVK | Mountain | | SWD | Hill | | SWI | Flat | | SYR | Mountain | | THA | Hill | | TPE | Mountain | | TUN | Flat | | TUR | Mountain | | UAE | Flat | | UKR | Flat | | URU | Mountain | | USA | Cobble | | UZB | Mountain | | VEN | Hill | | VIE | Mountain |
Don't add the 's' after cobble 
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| ember |
Posted on 28-10-2015 06:49
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| roturn |
Posted on 28-10-2015 07:03
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Ejer Bavnehøj/Møllehøj in Ejer, Jylland. 170.86 meters (above sea level).
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| Heine |
Posted on 28-10-2015 07:11
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roturn wrote:
Ejer Bavnehøj/Møllehøj in Ejer, Jylland. 170.86 meters (above sea level).
They will have to outsource the race :-p
Heck, there are hills right outside my office higher than the highest "mountain" of Denmark. And this is the flat part of Norway... That we can't produce climbers is just sad :-p
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 28-10-2015 14:44
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| CrueTrue |
Posted on 04-11-2015 17:53
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 04-11-2015 18:40
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Voting now closed. As there was a 100% favourable response to my idea of looking into weighting NC votes, I will be doing that before revealing the results. (Assuming I find an easy way - and I have an idea on that)
The following teams will not be taking part in the National Championships. #hammerthreat
Actavis - DKSH
AkzoNobel - Statoil
AMEX-Navigon
Azteca - NBCSN
Bacardi Limited
Bank of Ireland
BelarusBank Pro Cycling
Buff - Polska (Nominations ignored due to inactivity in rest of game)
Fox Sports - Golomt Cycling
Fred Whitton Race Team
Gatorade - SIS
Grupo Nutresa
Team TomTom
Team Type 1
Venchi
Verkefnid Iceland
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 04-11-2015 19:46
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Following methodology used to decide on route.
Count 1:
Votes counted from teams who have had a rider from that country on their roster this year.
(Loaned riders only count for the team they are riding for, unless that team did not vote for NCs, in which case they count for the owner team)
Count 2:
All votes on that nation.
Tie-Break option 1:
Vote of the team with the most riders from that nation.
Tie-Break option 2:
Vote of the team whose rider did not win the NC last year.
Some votes were invalid, either due to adding an 's' to the end of the route type, voting for 'Hilly' or 'MTN', or using the incorrect code for LTU and SWD. Formulas were used to count everything, hence the need for uniform naming.
If Count 1 did not decide the route, then Count 2 was used to decide between the joint winners from Count 2. Tie-Break 1 was used to decide MAS, and Tie-Break 2 was used to decide CHL. The only team with a SYR rider voted for last year's route, so Count 2 was used instead.
The results:
| Nation | Count 1 | Tie Break | Decision | | ALB | C | | C | | ALG | M | | M | | ANG | M | | M | | ARG | M | | M | | ARM | H | | H | | AUS | H | | H | | AUT | M | | M | | BEL | C | | C | | BLR | M | | M | | BOL | C/H | H | H | | BRA | F | | F | | BUL | M | | M | | BUR | C | | C | | CAN | C/F | F | F | | CHL | F/M | F | F | | CHN | F/H | H | H | | CIV | F | | F | | CMR | H/M | H | H | | COL | H | | H | | CRC | H | | H | | CRO | M | | M | | CUB | F | | F | | CUR | H | | H | | CYP | F | | F | | CZE | H/M | H | H | | DEN | H | | H | | ECU | M | | M | | EGY | | C | C | | ERI | M | | M | | ESP | H | | H | | EST | M | | M | | ETH | M | | M | | FIN | C/M | C | C | | FRA | F | | F | | GAB | | C | C | | GBR | H | | H | | GEO | C | | C | | GER | H | | H | | GRE | M | | M | | GUA | M | | M | | HKG | F/H | F | F | | HUN | H | | H | | INA | M | | M | | IRL | M | | M | | IRN | M | | M | | ISL | | C | C | | ISR | F | | F | | ITA | H | | H | | JAM | F | | F | | JPN | M | | M | | KAZ | F | | F | | KEN | C | | C | | KOR | H | | H | | LAO | M | | M | | LAT | F | | F | | LIE | F | | F | | LTU | H | | H | | LUX | C | | C | | MAS | C/H/M | M | M | | MCD | H | | H | | MEX | F | | F | | MGL | | H | H | | MOL | M | | M | | MOR | F | | F | | NAM | C/F/M | F | F | | NED | F | | F | | NEP | H | | H | | NOR | F | | F | | NZL | H | | H | | PER | H | | H | | PHI | H | | H | | POL | M | | M | | POR | M | | M | | QAT | F | | F | | ROM | M | | M | | RSA | H | | H | | RUS | H | | H | | RWA | M | | M | | SER | M | | M | | SLO | F | | F | | SMR | C/M | M | M | | SRI | M | | M | | SVK | F | | F | | SWD | H | | H | | SWI | F/H | H | H | | SYR | F | H | H | | THA | F/M | H | H | | TPE | F/M | F | F | | TUN | M | | M | | TUR | H/M | H | H | | UAE | F/M | F | F | | UKR | F | | F | | URU | F | | F | | USA | H | | H | | UZB | | F | F | | VEN | H | | H | | VIE | | F | F |
Count 1
Spoiler | Cobble | Flat | Hill | Mountain | | ALB | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | ALG | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | ANG | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | ARG | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | ARM | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | AUS | 1 | 1 | 7 | 3 | | AUT | 1 | 1 | 0 | 7 | | BEL | 15 | 0 | 4 | 2 | | BLR | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | BOL | 2 | 0 | 2 | 0 | | BRA | 1 | 3 | 1 | 2 | | BUL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | BUR | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | CAN | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | | CHL | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | CHN | 0 | 3 | 3 | 1 | | CIV | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | CMR | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | COL | 2 | 4 | 6 | 1 | | CRC | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | | CRO | 0 | 1 | 0 | 4 | | CUB | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | | CUR | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | CYP | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | CZE | 0 | 2 | 3 | 3 | | DEN | 3 | 0 | 4 | 3 | | ECU | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | EGY | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | ERI | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | ESP | 1 | 3 | 11 | 0 | | EST | 0 | 2 | 0 | 3 | | ETH | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | FIN | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | FRA | 5 | 8 | 0 | 7 | | GAB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | GBR | 3 | 2 | 5 | 2 | | GEO | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | GER | 3 | 2 | 8 | 5 | | GRE | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | GUA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | HKG | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | | HUN | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | INA | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | | IRL | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | | IRN | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | | ISL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | ISR | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | ITA | 6 | 2 | 15 | 8 | | JAM | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | JPN | 1 | 1 | 0 | 2 | | KAZ | 3 | 6 | 0 | 4 | | KEN | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | KOR | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | | LAO | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | LAT | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | LIE | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | LTU | 1 | 0 | 3 | 1 | | LUX | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | MAS | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | MCD | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | MEX | 0 | 2 | 0 | 1 | | MGL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | MOL | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | MOR | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | NAM | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | NED | 2 | 6 | 0 | 5 | | NEP | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | NOR | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 | | NZL | 4 | 1 | 5 | 2 | | PER | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | PHI | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | POL | 0 | 2 | 0 | 5 | | POR | 0 | 1 | 1 | 7 | | QAT | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | ROM | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | | RSA | 0 | 0 | 3 | 2 | | RUS | 3 | 0 | 4 | 2 | | RWA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | SER | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | | SLO | 0 | 5 | 0 | 2 | | SMR | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | SRI | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | SVK | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 | | SWD | 1 | 1 | 2 | 0 | | SWI | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | | SYR | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | THA | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | TPE | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | TUN | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | | TUR | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | | UAE | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | | UKR | 0 | 3 | 0 | 1 | | URU | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | USA | 0 | 5 | 6 | 0 | | UZB | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | VEN | 0 | 2 | 3 | 1 | | VIE | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
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Spoiler | Nation | Cobble | Flat | Hill | Mountain | | ALB | 1 | 1 | 6 | 0 | | ALG | 3 | 0 | 4 | 3 | | ANG | 0 | 0 | 4 | 2 | | ARG | 2 | 0 | 7 | 3 | | ARM | 1 | 0 | 6 | 1 | | AUS | 1 | 1 | 14 | 4 | | AUT | 1 | 1 | 0 | 15 | | BEL | 18 | 0 | 4 | 2 | | BLR | 1 | 5 | 0 | 4 | | BOL | 3 | 2 | 5 | 0 | | BRA | 2 | 6 | 1 | 6 | | BUL | 3 | 0 | 2 | 6 | | BUR | 2 | 0 | 4 | 0 | | CAN | 2 | 6 | 1 | 4 | | CHL | 1 | 4 | 0 | 4 | | CHN | 1 | 4 | 7 | 1 | | CIV | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | | CMR | 3 | 0 | 5 | 1 | | COL | 4 | 7 | 9 | 1 | | CRC | 1 | 3 | 8 | 0 | | CRO | 1 | 4 | 0 | 9 | | CUB | 1 | 8 | 0 | 1 | | CUR | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | CYP | 2 | 5 | 3 | 0 | | CZE | 0 | 3 | 7 | 4 | | DEN | 6 | 0 | 8 | 3 | | ECU | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | EGY | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | ERI | 3 | 1 | 0 | 6 | | ESP | 5 | 4 | 14 | 0 | | EST | 2 | 5 | 1 | 7 | | ETH | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | | FIN | 3 | 7 | 0 | 1 | | FRA | 7 | 11 | 0 | 10 | | GAB | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | GBR | 7 | 2 | 9 | 3 | | GEO | 2 | 2 | 0 | 3 | | GER | 4 | 2 | 12 | 5 | | GRE | 1 | 0 | 6 | 4 | | GUA | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | | HKG | 1 | 5 | 1 | 3 | | HUN | 2 | 0 | 7 | 0 | | INA | 2 | 6 | 0 | 3 | | IRL | 1 | 0 | 6 | 5 | | IRN | 1 | 3 | 0 | 7 | | ISL | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | ISR | 2 | 4 | 0 | 1 | | ITA | 8 | 2 | 17 | 9 | | JAM | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | | JPN | 2 | 5 | 0 | 5 | | KAZ | 5 | 9 | 1 | 6 | | KEN | 4 | 1 | 4 | 0 | | KOR | 1 | 0 | 8 | 1 | | LAO | 0 | 3 | 0 | 3 | | LAT | 3 | 8 | 0 | 0 | | LIE | 1 | 6 | 2 | 0 | | LTU | 2 | 0 | 10 | 1 | | LUX | 5 | 7 | 0 | 1 | | MAS | 2 | 1 | 4 | 4 | | MCD | 0 | 3 | 5 | 0 | | MEX | 1 | 7 | 0 | 3 | | MGL | 1 | 0 | 6 | 1 | | MOL | 1 | 6 | 0 | 4 | | MOR | 2 | 6 | 0 | 0 | | NAM | 2 | 5 | 0 | 2 | | NED | 5 | 10 | 0 | 6 | | NEP | 0 | 2 | 5 | 0 | | NOR | 1 | 6 | 0 | 4 | | NZL | 5 | 1 | 8 | 4 | | PER | 0 | 1 | 6 | 0 | | PHI | 1 | 2 | 5 | 0 | | POL | 1 | 5 | 0 | 8 | | POR | 2 | 3 | 1 | 12 | | QAT | 0 | 6 | 0 | 1 | | ROM | 1 | 0 | 7 | 5 | | RSA | 1 | 0 | 7 | 3 | | RUS | 6 | 0 | 6 | 5 | | RWA | 3 | 3 | 0 | 3 | | SER | 1 | 4 | 0 | 5 | | SLO | 1 | 8 | 0 | 6 | | SMR | 2 | 4 | 0 | 4 | | SRI | 1 | 0 | 5 | 2 | | SVK | 1 | 7 | 0 | 4 | | SWD | 2 | 4 | 6 | 0 | | SWI | 3 | 3 | 7 | 0 | | SYR | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | | THA | 1 | 1 | 6 | 1 | | TPE | 1 | 6 | 0 | 2 | | TUN | 1 | 7 | 0 | 2 | | TUR | 1 | 0 | 7 | 2 | | UAE | 1 | 7 | 0 | 1 | | UKR | 2 | 6 | 0 | 4 | | URU | 1 | 5 | 0 | 2 | | USA | 1 | 8 | 7 | 0 | | UZB | 0 | 4 | 0 | 2 | | VEN | 1 | 3 | 8 | 1 | | VIE | 0 | 4 | 0 | 2 |
Edited by SportingNonsense on 04-11-2015 20:09
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| alexkr00 |
Posted on 04-11-2015 20:19
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No chance for Gesink to defend his title 
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| cio93 |
Posted on 04-11-2015 20:22
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Well...Demare probably with the only chance for even just a podium for Puma.
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| roturn |
Posted on 04-11-2015 20:34
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Easy.
Groenewegen, Thurau, Villella and Vanmarcke new NC. No need to play them even.
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