World Championships - Rider Nominations
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jph27 |
Posted on 14-10-2015 10:29
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Thanks for most of the content of this thread goes to SN and Count Arach.
While we don't know where the World Championships will be held yet, we do know the format of the courses:
RR - Mountainous
TT - Still some climbing, but flat rated
TTT - Mountainous
You can now use this thread to nominate a rider for the TTT, ITT, B Road Race and Elite Road Race. Riders are not nominated for the U23 race, and if they are picked for an Elite race they can not ride the U23 version of that race. This means that mangers with U23 riders need to decide now whether they want them to race in the elite category or not. You can only nominate riders from your own team, or riders you own who are loaned out this season. Nations may potentially change races if they have a weaker selection than expected, so nomination is key!
You can also volunteer to be a selector for a Nation. In this case you will be able to vote to select the squad that will ride the races.
Please check that a nation will participate in a race before nominating a rider from that country. Nominations will be taken for the reserve nations - but of course they may not necessarily participate, while South Africa will also be open for nominations, as a potential host that is not guaranteed a spot in many races.
Teams
TTT:
Spoiler Australia
Austria
Belgium
Colombia
Czech Republic
Denmark
France
Germany
Great Britain
Ireland
Italy
Kazakhstan
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
USA
Ukraine
Venezuela
South Africa if selected as host nation
Eritrea as reserve if Italy selected as host nation
ITT:
Spoiler Australia
Austria
Belgium
China
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Great Britain
Greece
Italy
Luxembourg
Moldova
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Portugal
Russia
Slovenia
Spain
Switzerland
Ukraine
USA
South Africa if selected as host nation
Colombia as reserve if Italy selected as host nation
B Race:
Spoiler Argentina
Belarus
Bolivia
Brazil
Bulgaria
Canada
China
Croatia
Cuba
Czech Republic
Denmark
Eritrea
Iran
Japan
Kazakhstan
Kenya
Norway
New Zealand
Poland
Romania
San Marino
Sweden
Switzerland
South Africa will ride A RR if selected as host nation
Greece will replace South Africa, or Denmark if Italy is host nation
Elite Road Race:
Spoiler Australia
Austria
Belgium
Colombia
Costa Rica
Estonia
France
Great Britain
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Luxembourg
Moldova
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Ukraine
USA
Venezuela
B Worlds Winner
South Africa if selected as host nation or...
Denmark if Italy is selected as host nation
Numbers of riders per nation in the Road Races are yet to be finalised - the plan is for 8 but that may not be possible for all nations. TTTs will be teams of 8, while ITTs are teams of 2.
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The following guidance is taken from last year's thread - and the year before. Reserve teams do exist this season, while nations may change races if their lineups are considered too weak. Thanks to SN.
The first step towards creating the team is the nomination process. Each team may nominate as many or as few of their own riders to ride in the world championships. The selectors then choose from the available riders to create the road race, time trial and team time trial squads. So every rider nominated in this thread will be made available for all three squads – this thread is for nominations for the road race, time trial and team time trial squads. The only exception is if a nation is participating in one event but not in others (for example it is in the TT and not the RR), in which case the riders nominated will obviously only be available for whatever their nation qualifies for. When nominating your riders please give their full name, as it makes it much easier for me to keep track.
With loaned riders, both the team which is loaning them and also the team that they are being loaned to may nominate them. Remember that only nominated rides may be chosen by the selectors, meaning that the worlds will only be contested by riders from active teams who nominate them. The only exception is in the team time trial where, if there are not enough nominated riders from teams, I will fill out each team from riders without a contract.
Teams who do not have enough riders nominated may be downgraded a level. For example if a team which is allowed to select 6 riders only has 4 who are nominated, they will be downgraded to only bringing 3 riders to the race. So it is worth nominating even just domestiques from these ‘smaller’ nations. To compensate for this one of the countries who qualify only 3 riders initially will now be bumped up to 6 riders.
Further, any teams whose most suitable riders aren't nominated may be withdrawn and replaced by one of the reserve teams. This means that if the only big star of a small country is not nominated that country will lose its position to the next reserve team in line. Thus nominating riders for the reserve teams is important.
You can also volunteer to become a selector for any of the countries in the WC. If you want this please say so in your post or you will miss out.
- To do this, you must have a rider in your team from that country, even if you are not nominating them.
- Once the nominations are in, I PM the selectors for each and every country, they then make their team selections, and the most selected riders are those who get to ride. If there are still any ties after 3 rounds of voting I will provide the tiebreaking vote.
- The more selectors a country has, the better. This is a great way to influence the game and a very fun part of the process, even if none of your riders are directly affected.
If you are confused about any of this post your question below and myself or one of the other experienced people will answer your question. If you haven’t done this before then it is also a good idea to check out last year’s thread for an example of what you have to do to nominate riders and become a selector:
https://pcmdaily.c...d_id=32233
Under 23 Startlists
Riders not selected for the Elite Road Race and aged 23 or under as of 26th September 2015 will be available for the U23 Road Race (so they must be born in October 1992 or later). Likewise riders not selected for the Elite Time Trial will be available for the U23 Time Trial. The startlists for these races will be compiled by the reporters from the available riders. Note that these do not have to be nominated at any point – all eligible riders will be available for selection.
Edited by jph27 on 14-10-2015 16:01
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roturn |
Posted on 14-10-2015 10:42
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I nominate
312 | Martijn Keizer | NED | 726 | Lars Boom | NED | 7456 | Tom Dumoulin | NED | 493 | Stef Clement | NED | 7195 | Fabio Aru | ITA | 465 | Alan Marangoni | ITA | 5838 | Lucas Schädlich | GER | 7250 | Thomas Koep | GER | 937 | Serge Pauwels | BEL | 7446 | Frederik Frison | BEL | 5137 | Kristof Vandewalle | BEL |
I`d like to be selector for GER, NED, ITA, BEL
Not nominating Daan Olivier as he should be U23 eligible.
(I am sure you just changed the U23 date of birth. Had Frison in the U23 list first as well) |
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trekbmc |
Posted on 14-10-2015 10:49
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Thanks for this
Will just nominate most my riders
Poland: Domagalski, Marczynski, Dabrowski, Stachowiak, Gil, Franczak, Mazur, Pierzga
Denmark: Mørkøv, Sobota
Germany: Sinkewitz, Fahnert
Kazakhstan: Zeits
Norway: Hagan
I'd like to be a selector for Poland, Norway, Denmark and Slovakia (not sure if that's possible?) please.
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TheManxMissile |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:01
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I nominate:
Petar Panayotov
Borislav Ivanov
Martin Grashev
Georgi Petrov Georgiev
Nikolay Mihaylov
Momchil Robov
Valentin Stoenchev
Spas Gyurov
Will Routely
Matthew Lloyd
Cayetano Sarmiento
Isaac Bolivar
Romain Bardet
Simon Yates
I'd like to be a Selector for Bulgaria, Canada, Australia and Colombia
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jph27 |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:14
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@roturn: I've been given no clear instructions, so I just copied over from last year
I nominate:
Thibaut Pinot
Kenny Elissonde
Alexis Vuillermoz
Johan Le Bon
Blel Kadri
Maxime Bouet
Ludovic Bret
Ronan Racault
I'd like to be a selector for France. |
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roturn |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:22
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jph27 wrote:
@roturn: I've been given no clear instructions, so I just copied over from last year
I thought I read something like 1991 and earlier first, which didn`t make sense anyway. |
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Ollfardh |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:32
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Nominating:
Francis De Greef
Diego Rosa
Manuel Senni
Danielle Dall'Oste
Nikita Umerbekov
Domagoj Breznik
Saving Cerny for U23
I'd like to be a selector for Belgium, Italy, Kazakstan and/or Croatia if possible.
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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SotD |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:49
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As far as I understood SN it would be possible to nominate a U23 rider for the Elite TTT, while still riding the U23 RR and U23 TT - Is that correct? If so, this will be my nominations:
Elite RR:
Simon Spilak
Riccardo Ricco
Markus Eibegger
B Race:
Martin Hacecký
Piter Campero
TT(T):
Jerome Coppel
Yoann Paillot
Mathieu Bernaudeau
Markus Eibegger
Simon Spilak
Riccardo Ricco
Panagiotis Vlatos
The TT riders are also nominated for the TTT. If possible to ride both U23 TT, U23 RR and Elite TTT then these two will also be nominated for the TTT:
Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier
Yuriy Vasyliv
I would like to be selector for these:
France
Slovenia
Italy
Czech Republic
Greece
Bolivia
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tsmoha |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:55
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Would like to become a selector for Australia - just for the tradition!
And nominating:
Domenico Pozzovivo
Giovanni Visconti
Marcus Burghardt
Andrei Grivko
Haijun Ma
Wen Hao Li
Tom Scully
Jack Bobridge
Luke Durbridge
Michael Rogers
William Ford
Michael Ford
That means I will save Morton and Haig for the U23 thing..
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Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-10-2015 11:57
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SanCor Cycling Team nominates:
Julian Rodas
Salvador Moreno Hernandez
Pedro Herrera
Carlos Barredo
Michiel Van Aelbroeck
For the B-World Champs:
Enzo Moyano
Maximilian Richeze
Lucas Sebastian Heado
Gabriel Juarez
Laureano Rosas
Sebastian Tolosa
Ariel Sivori
Walter Trillini
Christian Omar Clavero
Dario Diaz
Alejandro Duran
Rafael Andriato
I'd love to be a selector for Argentina. |
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:14
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Please think before just nominating any rider. Makes it much easier to organise if you don't nominate riders who have no chance of ever being selected.
Will nominate mine later.
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Atlantius |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:22
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I nominate:
Winner Anacona
Chris Anker Sørensen
Mateuzs Taciak
Branislav Samoilev
Philip Lindau
Sergio Cioban
Edit:
Would love to be selector for Sweden, Denmark and Belarus.
Edited by Atlantius on 14-10-2015 12:26
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Avin Wargunnson |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:25
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Please think before just nominating any rider. Makes it much easier to organise if you don't nominate riders who have no chance of ever being selected.
Unfortunately same "problem" like last year, where i mentioned that, i really see no reason in nominating shitty riders guys, they will only make the process longer and more confusing. The list is already full of low50s mountain stat guys??? Also wouldnt everything be better if people listed the actual races that they nominate riders for like SotD did? Because it does not make sense to nominate 50 mountain guy for a road race, but it does make sense for the relatively flat TT...
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trekbmc |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:32
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trekbmc wrote:
Thanks for this
Will just nominate most my riders
Poland: Domagalski, Marczynski, Dabrowski, Stachowiak, Gil, Mazur
Denmark: Mørkøv
Germany: Sinkewitz, Fahnert
Kazakhstan: Zeits
I'd like to be a selector for Poland, Norway, Denmark and Slovakia (not sure if that's possible?) please.
Updated this to remove some riders who won't get selected.
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:35
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Avin Wargunnson wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Please think before just nominating any rider. Makes it much easier to organise if you don't nominate riders who have no chance of ever being selected.
Unfortunately same "problem" like last year, where i mentioned that, i really see no reason in nominating shitty riders guys, they will only make the process longer and more confusing. The list is already full of low50s mountain stat guys??? Also wouldnt everything be better if people listed the actual races that they nominate riders for like SotD did? Because it does not make sense to nominate 50 mountain guy for a road race, but it does make sense for the relatively flat TT...
It's actually cleaner just to have one list per country. The only case a distinction needs to be made is specifying TTT only for any U23 riders you want to be in the U23 races. There are only 2 spots per nation available for TT specialists, and the reality is that while the course will not be mountainous, it will not be pan flat either and will feature some climbing. Really just needs common sense from managers.
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Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:35
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Please think before just nominating any rider. Makes it much easier to organise if you don't nominate riders who have no chance of ever being selected.
Will nominate mine later.
But in the introduction of this thread it says something like being downgraded if you don't nominate enough riders so I wanted to avoid that. |
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Jakstar22 |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:39
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Fox Sports will nominate:
Timothy Roe
Yoann Barbas
Gert Steegmans
Wim De Vocht
Lets leave it at that.
I'd also like to nominate to be the New Zealand or Australia selector tsmoha deserves Aussie selector more then me though probably
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SportingNonsense |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:41
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Ian Butler wrote:
SportingNonsense wrote:
Please think before just nominating any rider. Makes it much easier to organise if you don't nominate riders who have no chance of ever being selected.
Will nominate mine later.
But in the introduction of this thread it says something like being downgraded if you don't nominate enough riders so I wanted to avoid that.
The problem with copying and pasting text from past years is that some parts are irrelevant. It used to be that the Worlds was split into teams of 9, 6 and 3 riders - now all have 8.
The main reason for downgrades will be if a nation's strongest rider is not nominated, if they were the main/only reason that a nation received a spot in that race.
So for smaller nations it may be that you nominate weaker riders as there's a good chance they will be amongst the best 8 options. But that really isnt the case for the much stronger nations. And regardless of that, nominating more than 8 riders for Argentina really makes no sense.
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Alakagom |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:44
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Nominate:
1294 | Madrazo | Angel | 8095 | Brenes | Gregory | 601 | Degand | Thomas | 3111 | Meintjes | Louis | 3350 | Goos | Marc | 3043 | Serry | Pieter | 6296 | Froome | Chris |
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Ian Butler |
Posted on 14-10-2015 12:44
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Oh okay. Got that wrong.
I just got confused with the nation's strongest riders so I didn't want to leave Haedo and Richeze behind. They didn't need to be nominated for this course.
And I hesitated with Rosas because I'm not sure if B Worlds also has a TT race or if B is just road. |
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