The Tour de France is always a critical race in the ProTour season and boy, did Aleksandr Pluchkin deliver. He scored 1093 points from winning the Vuelta, which was a good haul indeed. Well from the Tour he scored 1599! Stage wins along the way to 2nd overall helped Taaramae collecy an also strong 936 points - that's more than Andy Schleck got for winning the Giro! There were some vital points for Swisscom as well.
Bewley outscored Swift, and Velits outscored Schleck, as Becherovka set to work on closing the gap. Since then Bewley winning Moscow to Swift's 8th was cancelled out by the performances of Gastauer in Deutschland, and that leaves Vesuvio with a 289 point lead. Well, it would have done. But Becherovka also picked up 92 points on HC action in Austria, cutting the gap below the 200 mark. Game on! The Tour really seems to have hindered Festina, but Spilak can send them right back into the mix at Colombia.
Metinvest are flying high in 4th place, with the signing of Pluchkin really proven to have paid off. There's no doubt who the highest PT newcomers will be by the end of the season. Can they hold on to the Top 5? Aker, Good Energy and Tinkoff are all close together in that battle, and not far behind the Ukrainian outfit.
Taaramae has given Bouygues Telecom a huge boost for survival as they leap up from 15th to 9th. Pokerstas and Venchi hold on to the Top 10, as the Projects of 1t4i and Oz slip down. It's close in mid table with Red Bull close to Oz, and Pendleton's also nearby after once again being buoyed by breakaway and HC action. Sicard and Kennaugh keep Orange fighting. Quickstep slip 4 places in this update but their Champs Elysses win has signalled a change in form, that has helped to keep them in the current safety positions.
Bacardi hold the last survival place in 17th, but only just, VolksWagen are just 3 points behind them! Movistar too are close. There's more work to do for the bottom 3 but even now they are by no means out of it. Swisscom have lifted themselves away from bottom, and in their place are Ayubowan, just behind Meiji.
1
1
Vesuvio - Accumalux
6559
2
3
Becherovka - Petrof
6362
3
2
Festina-Canal+
5944
4
11
Metinvest-Dacia
5516
5
5
Aker - MOT
5318
6
6
Good Energy
5290
7
4
Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance
5253
8
7
Pokerstars.com
4968
9
15
Bouygues Telecom
4600
10
10
Venchi
4476
11
8
Project 1t4i
4395
12
9
Oz Cycling Project
4215
13
13
Red Bull - Huawei
4204
14
18
Pendleton's
4191
15
14
Orange - KLM
4066
16
12
Quickstep
3983
17
17
Bacardi Limited
3726
18
16
VolksWagen - Andritz
3723
19
19
Movistar - US Postal
3566
20
22
Swisscom - UBS
3235
21
20
Meiji - JR East
3139
22
21
Ayubowan!
3124
This is the first Individual rankings update since the Vuelta, so includes the likes of Dauphine/Suisse as well, which explains why Rein Taaramae has such a large position jump, now moving into 5th overall.
At the very top of the standings Pluchkin has racked up a great total from his two races of the season, but Bewley has just kept on winning, and may now have secured the Individual title. Ben Swift's change of focus this season with 2 GTs looks to have paid off as he sits 3rd in the standings, ahead of Spilak.
Ponzi has now won 4 overall races in a row, to add to his early season Grand-Duche success, yet that is only enough for 6th in the standings. Meanwhile Trofimov has fallen down to 7th. No Grand Tour participation this year, and Deutschland was one of his worst races in a long time. Amador, Van Stayen and Martin have all moved up to the Top 20, with Alarcon, Sicard and Scarponi on the Top 30 climb. Konstantin Siutsou is now up to 37th in the standings, quite incredibly given that he ranks 194th in PT when sorted by OVL stat, and his top stat is 76 MO. He is a key reason for why Pendleton's may avoid relegation, against expectations.
Going amazingly well for us (relatively speaking), ecstatic with how Valverde and particularly Siutsou are doing, the Tour was great for us. Hopefully we can sustain the points-scoring and stay up. Tight at the top, Sam Bewley may win it single-handedly for Becherovka. Thanks very much for the update SN.
Really wanted the status of least scoring team at Tour a year after winning two stage wins, but Houle managed to save the team on the last stage...overall we are quite shite as most of the season, but few decent performances keep us afloat..Madrazo has Colombia Liechstein and Lombardia left so hopefully he's the difference to keep us away from the Bacardi/Volkswagen dogfight..hopefully though our season turns at this point and we can claim 14/13th which would give us some goal points as well..
Seeing Metinvest is slightly bitter as what could have been, I knew Plukchin would score more than Angel but wanted to take a gamble with Madrazo anyway, don't regret the decision but seeing the table isn't a nice sight, but congratz to them, it'll be very hard but they definitely will give it all to keep that Top 5 placement.
Movistar looking dodgy as well but they are still in the fight, one good result by Tejay and they are back in the fight! Pendelton though, I can't believe how high they ranked, I guess having zero favourites does help with breaks and KoMs and stuff plus Valverde at PCT but still..crazy good..
Aziz being outscored by Brenes, while I was giving more shit to Brenes WTF..not sure whether to laugh or cry
Out of the top 10, but it's not game over yet. Hopefully Henao will find his legs on home soil, while Gesink will enjoy the return to the hilly classics as much as he enjoyed his return to Grand Tours.
The individual rankings aren't looking too bright, with very few riders at the very top, but it looks like my depth is paying off after all. No rider in top 10, one in top 20 and just 3 in top 100.
Brambilla is having a rather a weak season and not just compared with the last one. He is being outscored by Vanendert, Broers (?!) and Majka (?!).
And Joost Posthuma has scored less than 80 points so far. The downfall of one of the Man Game legends (well, at least one of my team's legends) has begun.
Not good, but as expected. Fothen and Ratiy haven't been good enough so we have to rely on TVG to pull us through. He only has Tasmania and Lombardia left on his plate so it could make for some interesting fireworks at the end of the season if the rest of the team can keep the gap close going into the final two races of the year.
It's possible. I mean who would have guessed De la Cruz and Borges would be our 2nd and 3rd best point getters on the team at the start of the season. Fingers crossed the BOTD continue to be OP.
There we are at the relegation spot. Another nail-biting end to the season. I hope my luck can turn around, but I doubt it. Only hope I got is that my leaders still got race days left...
Metinvest doing well based on the GT's, Vesuvio or Becherovska fighting for the win.
Biggest surprise must be that Pendelton seems to survive... Who would've guessed that?
Not good, not good at all! I seriously want to see just one fluke result through some weird stuff somewhere We haven't much left in the tank, so I guess the downfall will go on. Bobridge ain't good enough at this level, so he will faul in Tasmania... Goss won't do anything either... Copenhagen TTT - well, we know the drill.. Columbia will be seriously bad... So......Burghardt then TONE!
First off Red Bull are having an underwhelming season in terms of team position. Jose did as he did at the Giro last year - a decent GC but ultimately not a particularly high scoring one. I think we have a decent enough end of season run, but we are looking over our shoulder a bit - very disappointed that we are so close to Pendletons.
Pluichkin obviously propelled Metinvest hugely - rightly so he took the gamble and rolled the dice on tow GTs and has been rewarded. Do hope they stick in top 5. Vesuvio remain favourites, Bewley and Swift have done very well so their teams are going great along with Ponzi inspired Good Energy.
I think the relegation battle is really from Pendletons below. Ayubowen and unfortunately Meijy looked set to go back to whence they came. UBS have had some better news at the Tour but then it is back to anonymous like performances again. I'm afraid for Movistar really also. VW and Bacardi in familiar territory however I do feel Orange Pendletons and Quickstep need to be wary.
Not as "off" as the Giro, but I still get quite a large difference when I calculate my points.
Stage
Stagepoints
U25 Jersey
KOM Jersey
Total
1
1
8
0
9
2
0
8
0
8
3
0
8
5
13
4
0
3
5
8
5
0
3
2
5
6
0
3
0
3
7
0
3
0
3
8
3
3
0
6
9
0
3
0
3
10
0
3
0
3
11
0
3
0
3
12
0
3
0
3
13
0
3
0
3
14
0
3
0
3
15
0
3
0
3
16
2
3
0
5
17
0
3
0
3
18
1
3
0
4
19
0
3
0
3
20
0
3
0
3
21
15
0
0
15
TOTAL
109
GC:
13
Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier
120pts
42
Martin Hacecký
29pts
88
Charalampas Kastrantas
20pts
103
Laurent Pichon
10pts
124
Yoann Paillot
10pts
137
Tom David
10pts
157
Robert Bush
10pts
Youth:
2
Pierre-Henri Lecuisinier
25pts
Total:
109+120+29+20+10+10+10+10+25
= 333pts
Difference is 48pts or 14,4%.
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I assume the final points are calculated including Deutschland but before Moscow, otherwise I can't make reason of the overall points, as I have quite some difference in the overall. Both in terms of points, but also ranking of some teams in interesting places.
OlegTinkov wrote:
Thanks for the update, 4 riders in the top-50 is pretty good, too bad Kritskiy only has 508 pts, he probably is the most overpaid rider of the season.
Not at all...
Romain Sicard 2.044€ pr. point
Vincenzo Nibali 1.989€ pr. point
Stefan Denifl 1.918€ pr. point
Angel Madrazo 1.438€ pr. point
Justo Tenorio 1.316€ pr. point
Timofey Kritskiy 1.230€ pr. point
Those are just the riders that have a similar, or higher wage.
SotD wrote:
I assume the final points are calculated including Deutschland but before Moscow, otherwise I can't make reason of the overall points, as I have quite some difference in the overall. Both in terms of points, but also ranking of some teams in interesting places.
Thanks for checking. Had you read the first post fully, you would know that Moscow was included. Would be stupid not to include it, given that it was one of the races I was waiting for before doing the update.
The problem with the Tour is annoyingly, one that looks to have happened last year as well - the GC points awarded at the end where from the Giro/Vuelta scale, not the Tour. All other points for the race were done on the correct TdF scale. I also forgot to do the U25 stage points for stages 12-20.
Corrected TdF team points:
Spoiler
Metinvest-Dacia
1813
Bouygues Telecom
1246
Becherovka - Petrof
1116
Swisscom - UBS
824
Vesuvio - Accumalux
794
Pendleton's
765
Red Bull - Huawei
717
Good Energy
699
Orange - KLM
607
Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance
581
Aker - MOT
531
Venchi
508
Bacardi Limited
436
VolksWagen - Andritz
433
Festina-Canal+
343
Movistar - US Postal
336
Pokerstars.com
305
Project 1t4i
280
Ayubowan!
241
Oz Cycling Project
238
Quickstep
213
Meiji - JR East
208
Corrected team rankings (previous position being the one shown above):
SotD wrote:
I assume the final points are calculated including Deutschland but before Moscow, otherwise I can't make reason of the overall points, as I have quite some difference in the overall. Both in terms of points, but also ranking of some teams in interesting places.
Thanks for checking. Had you read the first post fully, you would know that Moscow was included. Would be stupid not to include it, given that it was one of the races I was waiting for before doing the update.
The problem with the Tour is annoyingly, one that looks to have happened last year as well - the GC points awarded at the end where from the Giro/Vuelta scale, not the Tour. All other points for the race were done on the correct TdF scale. I also forgot to do the U25 stage points for stages 12-20.
Corrected TdF team points:
Spoiler
Metinvest-Dacia
1813
Bouygues Telecom
1246
Becherovka - Petrof
1116
Swisscom - UBS
824
Vesuvio - Accumalux
794
Pendleton's
765
Red Bull - Huawei
717
Good Energy
699
Orange - KLM
607
Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance
581
Aker - MOT
531
Venchi
508
Bacardi Limited
436
VolksWagen - Andritz
433
Festina-Canal+
343
Movistar - US Postal
336
Pokerstars.com
305
Project 1t4i
280
Ayubowan!
241
Oz Cycling Project
238
Quickstep
213
Meiji - JR East
208
Corrected team rankings (previous position being the one shown above):
1
1
Vesuvio - Accumalux
6574
2
2
Becherovka - Petrof
6410
3
3
Festina-Canal+
6002
4
4
Metinvest-Dacia
5636
5
5
Aker - MOT
5378
6
6
Good Energy
5305
7
7
Tinkoff Bank - Tinkoff Insurance
5299
8
8
Pokerstars.com
4987
9
9
Bouygues Telecom
4710
10
10
Venchi
4481
11
11
Project 1t4i
4424
12
14
Pendleton's
4293
13
13
Red Bull - Huawei
4274
14
12
Oz Cycling Project
4246
15
15
Orange - KLM
4131
16
16
Quickstep
3998
17
17
Bacardi Limited
3771
18
18
VolksWagen - Andritz
3764
19
19
Movistar - US Postal
3599
20
20
Swisscom - UBS
3335
21
21
Meiji - JR East
3165
22
22
Ayubowan!
3144
I did read it all, I asked because there was quite a difference in this ranking and my calculation. I don't calculate the HC races, but yet there was somethings that seemed wrong.
In the first calculation Vesuvio was leading by 200 points to Becherovka, and according to my calculations the difference should be around 35 points, and then seeing König doing well in a HC race I would have expected Becherovka to lead, or to be within 10 points.
For example, I have Volkswagen to be 100 points ahead og Bacardi at this point with Volkswagen having 3817 and Bacardi 3739 (But having no included the HC races since the Strada Appia Antica).
I also have Aker-MOT to have above 5500 points without HC results.
My calculations are probably not 100% accurate, but still there seems to be some teams having significantly more/less points than what i concluded, and especially the top 5 battle have been of some interest to me this season - So I have tried to keep it up to date all the time, and each time there have been and update, I have used the official numbers and then added the "new" races to see what the difference would be.
Cool. I'll let you know where there are some things I have calculated otherwise. I see some minor things like Aker and Metinvest getting 10 more points from Moscow than you have, and those might be down to me not calculating to detail how many riders each team have in the races - So I won't comment on that/small differences.
Your points are to the left. Mine are to the right:
Tour of Deutschland:
Red Bull 207 - 107 (Might be me tapping the wrong button)
Tour de France:
Vesuvio 794 - 696
Good Energy 699 - 630
Ayubowan! 241 - 194
Criterium du Dauphine:
Vesuvio 692 - 793
Good Energy 76 - 62
Tour of Switzerland:
Tinkoff 186 - 166
Those are the relevant "changes" from when I changed the figures so they fitted last time.
I won't get to control things this weekend, but next week I will control the numbers that seems wrong from the start (not the HC races), to the finish and double check if the mistake was made by me somewhere in the proces.
We might still stay up from here, as unlikely as it seems - if you offered me a 600 point gap to safety at the end of August when the season started I would have snapped your hand off.
Also worth noting that even with Sicard, we'd be in the relegation zone considering the sacrifices it would have required. Good to see my avoidance of risk was worthwhile
Well, it is definetely tighter than I have thought between Becherovka and Vesuvio! Cool news. Festina is still well in the picture as well as they should get a lot of points from Colombia. The battle for the podium places should be really exciting, but I am already excited that my team is on the way to finish in top 3 overall and that is my team goal for this season. And my team sadly will probably end up finishing 3rd, Velits, Howard and Sagan would really have to overachieve a lot.
Red Bull for me should be higher in standings, but I believe they still should go upwards in the final months of the season. Remarkably Pendleton's are doing really great, and they may well be on a way to stay in PT, quite a surprise for me, but they still are not safe at all, it is going to be a 'spectacular' battle for positions 12 to 22. Remarkably Ayubowan probably still have a real chance to stay up at this point. What a nice surprise.
Individual standings should be probably in the bag for Sam now as Pluchkin's season is probably over and Spilak, Trofimov or Ponzi have quite a huge gap. And Bewley still has an oppurtunity to ride our home race P-KV-P.
I can't possibly see me ending above you at this point. You have a gap og nearly 600 points, and with me having just two strong races left, I am looking down more so than up to be honest... If (and that is a big IF) Spilak should do wonders and win his remaining two races there is aproximately 800 points on offer there.
TONE is likely to be really bad for us, our TTT setup is probably good for something around 10th, Praha-Karlovy Vary- Praha is AT MOST a 7th place from Tzortzakis, but more likely somewhere around 10th and similarly we have Tasmania and Lombardia where we will probably get somewhere between 5-15th.
I can't see us catching the teams above us anymore to be honest. And that is OK. As long as we keep the competitors from behind where they are now. Metinvest is probably not going to challenge for the top 3, but Aker are likely to have a decent setup for all races, and will be able to score better than me in a race such as TONE, and probably Lombardia aswell, while the same applies for Tinkoff.
I don't know how others are setting up their teams of course, but Catching 600 points deficit on two teams with similar setups to mine are probably far fetched.
EDIT:
Oh and by the way, I'm rooting for you to win here Roman! It would make me very happy to see the guy that I'm spending hours on end discussing the game with winning the ranking.
Thanks for the update! I'm glad to see we moved up from last place. I'm a little confused as to how you guys (Roman and jph) believe that Ayuwoban has a chance to stay up at this point. There are not really that many races remaining and 600 is a sizable gap.
We haven't much left in the tank, so I guess the downfall will go on. Bobridge ain't good enough at this level, so he will faul in Tasmania... Goss won't do anything either... Copenhagen TTT - well, we know the drill.. Columbia will be seriously bad... So......Burghardt then 
