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La Vuelta a España 2015 - Week 2
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| Movistar |
Posted on 04-09-2015 03:09
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You really can't say that the Vuelta and Giro were home races for the Italians and Spanish 10 years ago, just a quick look at the last 30 editions of both there have been 14 international winners in each of the races. Also globalisation of the sport hasn't lead to juniors doping more, just look at the Italian amateur scene and the rampant doping that has been going on in for a lot longer than cycling has been globalised (not picking on Italy as plenty of other countries have had the same situation)
Fucking thank you.
To add the fact is top youth talents are actually screwed because of the doping on the pro level. Just look at a guy like Joe Dombrowski. |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 06:29
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Movistar wrote:
You really can't say that the Vuelta and Giro were home races for the Italians and Spanish 10 years ago, just a quick look at the last 30 editions of both there have been 14 international winners in each of the races. Also globalisation of the sport hasn't lead to juniors doping more, just look at the Italian amateur scene and the rampant doping that has been going on in for a lot longer than cycling has been globalised (not picking on Italy as plenty of other countries have had the same situation)
Fucking thank you.
To add the fact is top youth talents are actually screwed because of the doping on the pro level. Just look at a guy like Joe Dombrowski.
Sure as heck you can tell they were domestic races. During the period 1998-2005 the only non-spaniard to win was Ulrich who simply couldn't ride the Tour due to an injury in 1999. The Giro is even better with 11 consecutive Italian wins in 1997-2007. Otherwise they weren't domestic races....  And why are you so sure Dombrowski is clean. |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 13:43
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It seems the high pace is causing Nairo Quintana problems. The Colombian revealed he had a fever on the rest day and has struggled to recover. His race could be over.
Quintana is back in the peloton after some help from a teammate but the rides face more climbing before a long descent to the finish.
not looking good could abandon. |
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| jph27 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 13:49
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Movistar wrote:
You really can't say that the Vuelta and Giro were home races for the Italians and Spanish 10 years ago, just a quick look at the last 30 editions of both there have been 14 international winners in each of the races. Also globalisation of the sport hasn't lead to juniors doping more, just look at the Italian amateur scene and the rampant doping that has been going on in for a lot longer than cycling has been globalised (not picking on Italy as plenty of other countries have had the same situation)
Fucking thank you.
To add the fact is top youth talents are actually screwed because of the doping on the pro level. Just look at a guy like Joe Dombrowski.
Dombrowski is more a case of being injury/illness prone. This is effectively his first pro season when you consider that. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 13:54
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Oliveira in the break again!  |
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Posted on 04-09-2015 13:58
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And the 11th stage just shows that Contador's pure class.Winning the Giro after crashing twice with one being a dislocated shoulder,with a terrible team support and with a crazy Landa-Aru duo and the Astana team.Then in Tour he was bad at the start but was aggressive then and his form was getting much better.And then he crashed on the descent of Allos.He was still attacking and very aggressive and finished 5th. |
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| deek12345 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 14:08
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23 rider breakaway
Riders in the attack include Nicolas Roche, Segio Henao (Team Sky), Davide Arroyo (Caja Rural - Seguros RGA), Julien Simon (Cofidis), Kevin Reza (FDJ), Jose Joaquin Rojas (Movistar), Romain Sicard (Europcar) and Pawel Poljanski (Tinkoff - Saxo). |
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 04-09-2015 15:10
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classic spanish televised stage
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| clamel |
Posted on 04-09-2015 15:27
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With the Tour riders dropping like flies (Quintana next ?), and Aru is not very good on TT this might be Purito final shot for a Grand Tour before he retires.
Or will Valverde get the full support of Movistar, when and if Neiro steps off ?
Surely Tom D can't (even with a great TT) stay in that top-5
Majka perhaps ???
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 15:43
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clamel wrote:
With the Tour riders dropping like flies (Quintana next ?), and Aru is not very good on TT this might be Purito final shot for a Grand Tour before he retires.
Or will Valverde get the full support of Movistar, when and if Neiro steps off ?
Surely Tom D can't (even with a great TT) stay in that top-5
Majka perhaps ???
Why do you underestimate Tom? The remaining mountain stages aren't so tough(compared to stage 11 at least) and he can easily gain over 2 minutes on everyone else in the TT. The win would be hard, but top 5 is pretty much possible.
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Posted on 04-09-2015 16:30
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nice ride by Oliveira |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 16:30
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| SSJ2Luigi |
Posted on 04-09-2015 16:31
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deserved victory for Lampre though, been in every breakaway except one and with every rider except one
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 16:35
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Epic ride by Bagdonas 
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 16:52
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If that doesnt get Oliveira a contract then nothing will. |
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| Miguel98 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 17:00
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Also, Romain Sicard is now in the top 10. I think after last year, he's getting better and better by the moment. |
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| Spilak23 |
Posted on 04-09-2015 17:26
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Miguel98 wrote:
Also, Romain Sicard is now in the top 10. I think after last year, he's getting better and better by the moment.
Can only applaud his spirit.
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| Strydz |
Posted on 05-09-2015 03:23
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dark_x2012 wrote:
Movistar wrote:
You really can't say that the Vuelta and Giro were home races for the Italians and Spanish 10 years ago, just a quick look at the last 30 editions of both there have been 14 international winners in each of the races. Also globalisation of the sport hasn't lead to juniors doping more, just look at the Italian amateur scene and the rampant doping that has been going on in for a lot longer than cycling has been globalised (not picking on Italy as plenty of other countries have had the same situation)
Fucking thank you.
To add the fact is top youth talents are actually screwed because of the doping on the pro level. Just look at a guy like Joe Dombrowski.
Sure as heck you can tell they were domestic races. During the period 1998-2005 the only non-spaniard to win was Ulrich who simply couldn't ride the Tour due to an injury in 1999. The Giro is even better with 11 consecutive Italian wins in 1997-2007. Otherwise they weren't domestic races.... And why are you so sure Dombrowski is clean.
You said upto 10 years ago they were domestic races and my point was that they were international alot earlier than the last 10 years and the fact that in the last 30 years there have been 14 international winners in both races is proof that they have been international races for longer than the last 10 editions
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 05-09-2015 08:11
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Strydz wrote:
dark_x2012 wrote:
Movistar wrote:
You really can't say that the Vuelta and Giro were home races for the Italians and Spanish 10 years ago, just a quick look at the last 30 editions of both there have been 14 international winners in each of the races. Also globalisation of the sport hasn't lead to juniors doping more, just look at the Italian amateur scene and the rampant doping that has been going on in for a lot longer than cycling has been globalised (not picking on Italy as plenty of other countries have had the same situation)
Fucking thank you.
To add the fact is top youth talents are actually screwed because of the doping on the pro level. Just look at a guy like Joe Dombrowski.
Sure as heck you can tell they were domestic races. During the period 1998-2005 the only non-spaniard to win was Ulrich who simply couldn't ride the Tour due to an injury in 1999. The Giro is even better with 11 consecutive Italian wins in 1997-2007. Otherwise they weren't domestic races.... And why are you so sure Dombrowski is clean.
You said upto 10 years ago they were domestic races and my point was that they were international alot earlier than the last 10 years and the fact that in the last 30 years there have been 14 international winners in both races is proof that they have been international races for longer than the last 10 editions
I didn't say upto, I said 10 years ago(meaning the period 1997-2005, maybe not so clear afterall  ) But this period was when a lot of money entered cycling, actually not so much cycling but the TDF. I said that because TMM referred to Millar and Hamilton, both riders riding in that era. I meant that most riders wanted to shine in the TDF or the classics or Worlds and the Giro and Vuelta then were only for the home crowd and riders.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 05-09-2015 12:26
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Miguel98 wrote:
Also, Romain Sicard is now in the top 10. I think after last year, he's getting better and better by the moment.
Would be cool if he could hang on. Though Quintana's right behind him.
Also Dumoulin is doing very well. Though I still expect him to crack on one stage and lose plenty of time. If he doesn't, it'd be awesome, though. |
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