Nibali's one of my favourite riders so sorry to see him out, but he blatantly broke the rules by holding onto the car and have only just seen the vid footage and agree that if a rider cheats like this then he should be out.
At least this helps solve the Astana leadership, as they now just have Aru and Landa to choose from.
Movistar wrote:
He held onto the car just as long as plenty of others, difference is the driver put his foot to the floor. Judging by all the other work he did to get back on and make his finish respectable DQing him is idiotic.
It gave him no advantage other then recovering from a crash he didnt cause.
We should be praising him for keeping the loss of time as limited as it was instead he is getting thrown out because he is Italian.
Where is the "This post sucks dick." Button, when I need it? The forum is lacking that for sure.
Why dont you try and explain why it sucks instead of being a passive aggressive fanboy?
I dislike Nibali(does that make me a FANboy? Think before you write...), but to throw him out was the only decision. He hold on to a car, while the driver floors it...All others told it to you a couple times now, so I don't see the need for explaining, since you won't listen anyway.
Movistar wrote:
Talk about the Vuelta and the UCI making itself the laughing stock of the sports world in just two days of a race people were actually looking forward to.
Did you see the footage?
It´s not like all he did was stay behind the team-car a bit to long.
He grabs hold and then the driver floors it.... how could any race official not DQ a rider after that.
Throw the driver out, its the same sticky bottle we see every race multiple times. It looked worse because we got the overhead shot of this one and there was a large group who got fucked after the crash.
Every single race a favorite or decent name gets screwed after a crash and takes the sticky bottle while the driver speeds up. They are never DQd
that's not true, plenty of riders have been DQ'd for holding onto a vehicle, the other problem with your argument is Nibali wasn't holding onto a bottle, he was holding onto the car so that cancels out any grey area.
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Movistar wrote:
Talk about the Vuelta and the UCI making itself the laughing stock of the sports world in just two days of a race people were actually looking forward to.
Did you see the footage?
It´s not like all he did was stay behind the team-car a bit to long.
He grabs hold and then the driver floors it.... how could any race official not DQ a rider after that.
Throw the driver out, its the same sticky bottle we see every race multiple times. It looked worse because we got the overhead shot of this one and there was a large group who got fucked after the crash.
Every single race a favorite or decent name gets screwed after a crash and takes the sticky bottle while the driver speeds up. They are never DQd
that's not true, plenty of riders have been DQ'd for holding onto a vehicle, the other problem with your argument is Nibali wasn't holding onto a bottle, he was holding onto the car so that cancels out any grey area.
A. Not for a first offence.
B. He was holding on to a bottle. Why else would they have sended Shefer home?
Throw the driver out, its the same sticky bottle we see every race multiple times. It looked worse because we got the overhead shot of this one and there was a large group who got fucked after the crash.
Every single race a favorite or decent name gets screwed after a crash and takes the sticky bottle while the driver speeds up. They are never DQd
The Driver and sports director was also thrown out. But yes i know apparently its a common thing to do but even then i have never ever seen anything like this, it´s not like he was at the back of a group and had trouble , he was in front of a larger group who weren´t going slow from the pictures, and then his team car comes and you can clearly see that the driver floors it while nibali is holding on.
There is nothing to debate here, Nibali took a chance, got caught and got his penalty, any rider caught like that would have received the same.
Movistar wrote:
Talk about the Vuelta and the UCI making itself the laughing stock of the sports world in just two days of a race people were actually looking forward to.
Did you see the footage?
It´s not like all he did was stay behind the team-car a bit to long.
He grabs hold and then the driver floors it.... how could any race official not DQ a rider after that.
Throw the driver out, its the same sticky bottle we see every race multiple times. It looked worse because we got the overhead shot of this one and there was a large group who got fucked after the crash.
Every single race a favorite or decent name gets screwed after a crash and takes the sticky bottle while the driver speeds up. They are never DQd
that's not true, plenty of riders have been DQ'd for holding onto a vehicle, the other problem with your argument is Nibali wasn't holding onto a bottle, he was holding onto the car so that cancels out any grey area.
A. Not for a first offence.
B. He was holding on to a bottle. Why else would they have sended Shefer home?
A: Ehm? Again did you see the footage?
B: And? he could have held on to the drivers nose, it still does not remove the fact that the driver floored it and pretty got a car-ride up to the peleton.
I get why people would defend Nibali and against the DQ, if this was a case where Nibali had stayed behind the team car to much or had gone to the back for a bottle and it could be debatable the amount of time he held onto it.
But watch the footage and look and if you still feel this is a unfair decision, well C'est la vie....
Haha glad Nibali is out of the race. That sticky bottle must have had gorilla glue, that was so hilarious. How could they actually think they would get away with such a stupid thing?
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baseballlover312 wrote:
Haha glad Nibali is out of the race. That sticky bottle must have had gorilla glue, that was so hilarious. How could they actually think they would get away with such a stupid thing?
no tv-bikes around. I guess a lot of things are not seen by officials (directly or indirectly) and therefore won't get punished.
Stupid Astana, that was a horrible cheating, good that it was caught on tape and Nibali thrown out of the race, this should have been punished every time with a DQ. Now i would think Astana think that they did nothing wrong, the cheating culture is surely rooted in this Vino project...
Great win from Chaves and nice job from Dumoulin too, when big guns are somewhat not fully loaded yet.
OK, just how bad was this sticky bottle syndrome? Is there footage?
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That 40 second video doesn't show it correctly though. Unfortunately the only full vid of the stage is from British eurosport which had an ad break at the moment it happened.
Nibali really pissed in la Gazetta. Says the crash was caused by some dangerous move from Ewan (whose quickly making a name for himself). He's not happy with Astana either.
vismitananda wrote:
Too bad Nibbles was DQ'd. So happy for Chavez, that kid will win more GT stages in the future.
Agree on Chavez, he is a talented climber who is still working his way back from that terrible accident, I still think it's to early to judge if he is a true 3 week rider and next season will tell us more about that but one thing is for certain, this won't be his only GT stage win
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