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Le Tour de France 2015 | Stage 19: Modane / Alpe d' Huez
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| Cyclotron |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:22
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Totally agree on that, Mollema didn't even gain a single point in the KoM competition and still managed to get 7th. 
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| Jacdk |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:23
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wouty006 wrote:
who do you guys think deserves the overal combatitivity award?
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:24
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dark_x2012 wrote:
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Quintana 39:22 - 26 seconds faster than 2013 and faster than Sastre 2008. Very impressive performance
Indeed very fast, is that the record? If it is Froome has not even been that bad although looking really weak he as been doing ok numbers as Quintana had the record yesterday on Toussuire
The record is Pantani's-not reacheble in the near 10 years until great new technology and training is introduced.
I don't think it will ever be broken with legal means. That's impossible imo technology and training doesn't have that much of an influence..
In 1984 The Alp d'Huez was climbed in more then 45 minutes. 11 years later 36:40. I agree a huge part of it is doping but technology also took at least 3-4 minutes. Never say never.
Without doing away with bike weight limits there really isn't much more technology that could be introduced outside of doping that could wipe off that much time
The main problem with weight is that most teams make easy-breakable bikes. If a better material is discovered the UCI could give it a thought.
That's rubbish! Teams have to add weight to most of the bikes to get them upto the legal weight. I know plenty of people I sometimes ride around with with sub 6 kg bikes and they can take a beating. Anyone who thinks Carbon isn't strong hasn't paid enough attention to how the material has developed
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Posted on 25-07-2015 16:25
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Yeah he really was a standout but they won't give it to him seeing he has the green
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Posted on 25-07-2015 16:28
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Jesleyh wrote:
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So Quintana lost the Tour due to Kelderman crashing on the stage to Zeeland? ^^
Uhh no. If anything it would be Ten Dam crashing. And well that was the fault of a spectator so just blame him/her 
Leave Wilco out of this 
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:28
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Jacdk wrote:
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Greg Lemond is a disgrace to cycling...
I really dont like that guy.
Not having a go at you at all but I'm just curious on what your issues with Lemond are? I don't hold him in high regard as a commentator and he does come across as a little hypocritical with his dislike of some dopers and like of other ones but outside of that I can't see any problems with the guy
I used to love Lemond and my favorite TdF ever was his runs against Fignon and Hianult.
So i dont hate or dislike him as a rider at all.
What i do however don't like is Lemond as a commentator and his constant rants against doping. It's like Armstrong before he got caught all over again and the arrogance is just aggravating, not to mention that it´s suspicious.
Particular when you consider the time in cycling and what might be early doping.
I've seen for years people try and find dirt on Lemond doping and they have never turned anything close to plausible evidence. It's taken me a while to come to the conclusion that Lemond was clean.
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Posted on 25-07-2015 16:29
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Strydz wrote:
That's rubbish! Teams have to add weight to most of the bikes to get them upto the legal weight. I know plenty of people I sometimes ride around with with sub 6 kg bikes and they can take a beating. Anyone who thinks Carbon isn't strong hasn't paid enough attention to how the material has developed
I bet there isn't a 2 kg bike. Adding up 500g up to a kilo doesn't matter. But imagine a rider who goes with a 3.5kg-4 bike which breaks up on a descent after the rider hits a bump. Conador's injury last year would be nothing then.
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| Stromeon |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:29
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Cyclotron wrote:
Totally agree on that, Mollema didn't even gain a single point in the KoM competition and still managed to get 7th.
As a follow up to that, Contador managed to finish 5th while only getting 2 mountain points in the whole race, would never have predicted that he would be oustcored by 53 other riders in terms of the KoM standings
Another interesting fact: only 16 riders managed to finish within an hour of the winner, the lowest number since 1997, and lower than the Giro (18) where we were all remarking about the huge time gaps.
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| Kirchen_75 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:33
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SSJ2Luigi wrote:
wouty006 wrote:
who do you guys think deserves the overal combatitivity award?
certainly Sagan if he was french, Pinot, Rolland or Bardet might also have a chance.
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| Malkael |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:37
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What Styydz said, a stock Emonda from Trek is already below the minimum UCI weight limits and the teams have to add weight to the bike to meet the minimum weight limits set by the UCI.
Having ridden one personally I can also tell you it is study under weight and worst-case scenario 'stacking it'. Bicycle technology is very much consumer-driven, in that companies want to sell you new shiny stuff even if the old stuff works fine.
Change rules? You've never met UCI bureaucracy, yo!
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:37
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dark_x2012 wrote:
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That's rubbish! Teams have to add weight to most of the bikes to get them upto the legal weight. I know plenty of people I sometimes ride around with with sub 6 kg bikes and they can take a beating. Anyone who thinks Carbon isn't strong hasn't paid enough attention to how the material has developed
I bet there isn't a 2 kg bike. Adding up 500g up to a kilo doesn't matter. But imagine a rider who goes with a 3.5kg-4 bike which breaks up on a descent after the rider hits a bump. Conador's injury last year would be nothing then.
Thats not true! You can make a 4 kg bike that would be easily strong enough but it would also be mega stiff and would be a bitch to ride, also 500 g to a kilo makes a massive difference when climbing
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Posted on 25-07-2015 16:38
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Stromeon wrote:
Cyclotron wrote:
Totally agree on that, Mollema didn't even gain a single point in the KoM competition and still managed to get 7th.
As a follow up to that, Contador managed to finish 5th while only getting 2 mountain points in the whole race, would never have predicted that he would be oustcored by 53 other riders in terms of the KoM standings
Teklaheimanot comformed better climber than Contador
edit: fuck that name seriously 
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| Riis123 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:41
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What is the take on Contador now next year - Giro, Tour, Vuelta? |
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:42
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Malkael wrote:
What Styydz said, a stock Emonda from Trek is already below the minimum UCI weight limits and the teams have to add weight to the bike to meet the minimum weight limits set by the UCI.
Having ridden one personally I can also tell you it is study under weight and worst-case scenario 'stacking it'. Bicycle technology is very much consumer-driven, in that companies want to sell you new shiny stuff even if the old stuff works fine.
It's true, my TCR SL comes in around 6.4 kg and that's with alloy bars and the wheel set weighs in at 1500 grams, it's easy enough to get a strong set of carbon tubulars that would weigh in at 1200 grams so with carbon bars the bike would sit at 6 kg. The bike strong! I've have ridden it down heavily rutted gravel descents at speed and it doesn't come apart, it's been hit by a car and no cracks.
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Posted on 25-07-2015 16:42
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Riis123 wrote:
What is the take on Contador now next year - Giro, Tour, Vuelta?
Everything on July, no Giro, Vuelta depending on how le Tour went.
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:43
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Riis123 wrote:
What is the take on Contador now next year - Giro, Tour, Vuelta?
Tour plus rumoured Olympic Games. I hope he makes another year and will go to 100th Giro 2017. Vuelta is likely too.
"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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| Strydz |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:44
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Riis123 wrote:
What is the take on Contador now next year - Giro, Tour, Vuelta?
I think he aims at the Tour/Vuelta but I honestly think he is done as a Tour winners unless the others fall by the wayside. He has to much pride to say go for the Giro/Vuelta so yeah he will aim at the Tour and come up short
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Posted on 25-07-2015 16:44
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Ok, interesting, May be too late now tho. A podium should be within his grasp. |
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| dark_x2012 |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:44
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Ok Strydz fine good to learn something new. A friend of mine told me that 5 about years ago but it seems things hav changed already. UCI will someday make a change so as to return some interest most probably. |
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| Shonak |
Posted on 25-07-2015 16:47
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"It’s a little bit scary when Contador attacks." - Tommy V
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