Fant. Neutral Story [Ronde 2018]
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Posted on 28-09-2011 10:08
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Welcome to the weirdest story you will probably see in the forums. Inspired by the neutral story from pcm2009fan (thanks a lot), I will run a the reports of the races of a fantasy season with lots of tweaks.
First things first, what does it make this story "fantasy"? The main point is I will be using a completely redone database in which every attribute of every rider will be 55. The stats of the riders will change accordingly to their results every end of season. Second, there are only 90 riders in the database. That means the 10 teams composing the UCI World Tour will have to bring the same riders to every race. Third, the calendar of the season will consist of 50 racing days for the first season.
Obviously, the races will be run as stage races and classics. It is impossible to run the career mode with my database setup. They will have random fitness set.
Follow the story and have a say on the transfer dealings between the teams at the end of season and on where the riders spend their attribute points. Off we go!
Season 2009 | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&rowstart=0#post_452920]Calendar[/url] | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&pid=463782#post_464388]Recap[/url] | Season 2010 | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&pid=463782#post_464734]Calendar[/url] | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&rowstart=300#post_484960]Recap[/url] | Season 2011 | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&rowstart=300#post_485090]Calendar[/url] | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&rowstart=500#post_531488]Recap[/url] | Season 2012 | [url=pcmdaily.com/forum/viewthread.php?thread_id=20408&rowstart=500#post_532180]Calendar[/url] | Recap | Season 2013 | Calendar | Recap |
Edited by mpardo on 04-04-2018 17:06
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kitface |
Posted on 28-09-2011 10:12
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Well, good idea probably isn't the best way to put it, but boy am I interested to see how it turns out! Good Luck!
Also, won't this make the races really boring since nobody will attack succesfully? Or am I overthinking it?
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mpardo |
Posted on 28-09-2011 10:14
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Edited by mpardo on 22-11-2011 16:41
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mpardo |
Posted on 28-09-2011 10:17
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kitface wrote:
Well, good idea probably isn't the best way to put it, but boy am I interested to see how it turns out! Good Luck!
Also, won't this make the races really boring since nobody will attack succesfully? Or am I overthinking it?
Surprinsingly, people do attack. I am already at the Volta Ciclista a Catalunya and on stage 3, there are "big" gaps in the GC (fourth is more than 1 minute back).
The downside of me being in the Volta Catalunya is I don't have many pictures from Paris Nice, but I hope the reports are interesting anyway.
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mpardo |
Posted on 28-09-2011 10:31
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2009 squads
BMC Racing Team
HTC - High Road
Lampre - ISD
Leopard Trek
Liquigas - Cannondale
Omega Pharma Lotto
Saxo Bank Sungard
Sky Procycling
Team Garmin-Cervelo
Team Radioshack
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mpardo |
Posted on 28-09-2011 15:15
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Stage 1: Amilly – Amilly (ITT)
This years Paris – Nice starts with a flat prologue in the small city of Amilly, in the south of Paris. The 9 kilometres on the stage will not allow for big differences among the riders.
Xavier Tondo (Radioshack) was the first to set a good time, and it was very early in the stage. He was only the 10th rider on the track. His time: 11’ 40’’
Borut Bozic (Sky) came right behind Tondo to improve his time by just 1 second. That was a very good time and difficult to beat for the rest of the riders
When everything looked set for a Slovenian win, his team-mate Laurens Ten Dam stormed the finish line with a time of 11’ 38’’. It was a nice 1-2 for Sky. They should be ready to take control of the pack from now on.
Stage Results
1 | Laurens Ten Dam | SKY PROCYCLING | 11'38 | 2 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | + 1 | 3 | Xavier Tondo | TEAM RADIOSHACK | + 2 | 4 | Oscar Freire | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 5 | George Hincapie | BMC RACING TEAM | s.t. | 6 | Cameron Meyer | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | s.t. | 7 | David Millar | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | + 3 | 8 | Ben Swift | SKY PROCYCLING | s.t. | 9 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | s.t. | 10 | Steven Kruijswijk | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. |
Points
1 | Laurens Ten Dam | SKY PROCYCLING | 25 | 2 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | 22 | 3 | Xavier Tondo | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 20 | 4 | Oscar Freire | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 18 | 5 | George Hincapie | BMC RACING TEAM | 16 |
Teams
1 | SKY PROCYCLING | 34'58 | 2 | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | + 6 | 3 | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 4 | BMC RACING TEAM | s.t. | 5 | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | s.t. |
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YvesStevens |
Posted on 28-09-2011 16:16
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Why you make everyone 55 you get unrealistic results now...
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pcm2009fan |
Posted on 28-09-2011 16:20
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It's a different idea but I'm curious to see how it works out!
Anyway constant game crashes forced me to stop storywriting again but now I can follow yours instead
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lluuiiggii |
Posted on 28-09-2011 16:55
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I've got to say this is really different, and I find it very interesting.
But why didn't you get the correct jerseys? It looks like a simpler work than you did with the DB.
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Posted on 28-09-2011 17:36
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Looks really interesting. Nice idea.
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mpardo |
Posted on 28-09-2011 18:20
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Wow, I didn't expect so much interest
YvesStevens wrote:
Why you make everyone 55 you get unrealistic results now...
I like very much to know how the AI of the games work, so what best than to start my story discovering the result of a level playing field? Besides, you can clearly see the effect of fitness and randomness in races.
pcm2009fan wrote:
It's a different idea but I'm curious to see how it works out!
Anyway constant game crashes forced me to stop storywriting again but now I can follow yours instead
I think single races don't crash so much as careers, so I hope it is not a big issue. My game seldom crashes while doing this.
lluuiiggii wrote:
I've got to say this is really different, and I find it very interesting.
But why didn't you get the correct jerseys? It looks like a simpler work than you did with the DB.
I need to work that out, I decided to try my hand at stage making before jerseys. Can you recommend a set of 2011 jerseys that look good?
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Posted on 28-09-2011 20:05
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The shirt database is the place to go
Oh and yeah I just meant that's why I've stopped updating my story, but you'll be fine especially in stage race mode
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mpardo |
Posted on 28-09-2011 21:56
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pcm2009fan wrote:
The shirt database is the place to go
Oh and yeah I just meant that's why I've stopped updating my story, but you'll be fine especially in stage race mode
Cool, I'll have them ready for the tour of flandes
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Posted on 29-09-2011 09:54
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Stage 2: St. Brisson-sur-Loire - La Chapelle St-Ursin
The Paris – Nice starts its way south with a flat stage meant for the sprinters, the only two small climbs are too far from the end to count, but they will give us the first mountain jersey in the season. The wind could be dangerous though, as it was blowing hard yesterday in the prologue.
The break of the day was made of three riders: Tiago Machado (Radioshack), Dries Devenys (BMC) and Joost van Leijen (Lampre). Machado, in the picture, went ahead in both climb and therefore claimed the KoM jersey.
However, Sky was not keen to lose the leaders jersey to the break and as the pack was preparing the sprint, the guys in the break had fallen down the pack. There are time bonuses at the finish, so a change of leader is very possible.
And Sylvain Chavanel (Lampre) wins the sprint ahead of Hubert Dupont (Saxo Bank)! However, as Chavanel was last in the prologue he only moves to 9th in the GC. The new leaders jersey goes to Hubert Dupont, 1 second ahead of Fabian Cancellara.
Stage Results
1 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | 4h46'08 | 2 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 3 | Fabian Cancellara | LEOPARD TREK | s.t. | 4 | Cameron Meyer | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | s.t. | 5 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 6 | Mikel Nieve | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 7 | Levi Leipheimer | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 8 | Matthew Goss | HTC - HIGH ROAD | s.t. | 9 | Bernhard Eisel | HTC - HIGH ROAD | s.t. | 10 | André Greipel | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. |
General Classification
1 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 4h57'44 | 2 | Fabian Cancellara | LEOPARD TREK | + 1 | 3 | Laurens Ten Dam | SKY PROCYCLING | + 2 | 4 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | + 3 | 5 | Cameron Meyer | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | + 4 | 6 | Oscar Freire | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 7 | George Hincapie | BMC RACING TEAM | s.t. | 8 | Xavier Tondo | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 9 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | s.t. | 10 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | + 5 |
Points
1 | Cameron Meyer | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | 33 | 2 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 31 | 3 | Laurens Ten Dam | SKY PROCYCLING | 25 | 4 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | 25 | 5 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | 22 |
Mountain
1 | Tiago Machado | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 8 | 2 | Dries Devenyns | BMC RACING TEAM | 4 | 3 | Joost Van Leijen | LAMPRE - ISD | 2 |
Teams
1 | SKY PROCYCLING | 14h53'22 | 2 | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | + 6 | 3 | BMC RACING TEAM | s.t. | 4 | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 5 | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. |
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mpardo |
Posted on 29-09-2011 17:08
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Stage 3: Orval – Vichy
Stage 3 is ground of sprinters again. Three small cols are in the route but they should play no part in the outcome of the race. We continue heading south and the wind was again very strong yesterday.
The break of the day was made of three riders again: Michele Scarponi (Lampre), Steven Kruijswijk (Radioshack) and Mathias Frank (BMC). The Italian was first in 2 of the climbs and with 9 points was set to wear the dotted jersey.
The wind was really strong as the pack chased the break and some teams tried their hand on losing some of the other teams behind. It eventually worked when the pack broke in two just before the second sprint. Among those left behind was the whole Garmin-Cervelo, Fabian Cancellara, Laurens Ten Dam, Cameron Meyer and Oscar Freire.
And as the front group approached the finish line, the backmarkers were already losing more than one minute. Jelle Vanendert bagged his first victory of the season and the first for Omega Pharma Lotto. While he was at it, he also got the leaders jersey from Hubert Dupont.
The back group arrived with 1’ 47’’ lost to the winner and all of those behind will almost say goodbye to the general classification. Apart from Garmin, Sky could only place Borut Bozic and Ben Swift ahead, while Leopard only had Jean-Christophe Peraud and Jakob Fuglsang.
Stage Results
1 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | 4h09'28 | 2 | Joaquin Rodriguez | LAMPRE - ISD | s.t. | 3 | Francisco Ventoso | HTC - HIGH ROAD | s.t. | 4 | Ivan Basso | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | s.t. | 5 | Tiago Machado | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 6 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | s.t. | 7 | Levi Leipheimer | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 8 | Joost Van Leijen | LAMPRE - ISD | s.t. | 9 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | s.t. | 10 | Lloyd Mondory | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | s.t. |
General Classification
1 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | 9h07'08 | 2 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | + 4 | 3 | Joaquin Rodriguez | LAMPRE - ISD | + 5 | 4 | Francisco Ventoso | HTC - HIGH ROAD | + 6 | 5 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | + 7 | 6 | Xavier Tondo | TEAM RADIOSHACK | + 8 | 7 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | s.t. | 8 | George Hincapie | BMC RACING TEAM | s.t. | 9 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | + 9 | 10 | Ben Swift | SKY PROCYCLING | s.t. |
Points
1 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | 46 | 2 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | 40 | 3 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 39 | 4 | Borut Bozic | SKY PROCYCLING | 34 | 5 | Cameron Meyer | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | 33 |
Mountain
1 | Michele Scarponi | LAMPRE - ISD | 9 | 2 | Tiago Machado | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 8 | 3 | Steven Kruijswijk | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 7 | 4 | Mathias Frank | BMC RACING TEAM | 5 | 5 | Dries Devenyns | BMC RACING TEAM | 4 |
Teams
1 | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 27h21'52 | 2 | BMC RACING TEAM | s.t. | 3 | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 4 | LAMPRE - ISD | + 3 | 5 | HTC - HIGH ROAD | + 4 |
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mpardo |
Posted on 30-09-2011 11:47
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Stage 4: Vichy – Saint Etienne
On our way to Saint-Etienne, the first relevant hills will come into play. The Côte de Rochetaillée, only 8 kilometres from the finish is a good opportunity to see some attacks. With the GC so tight, any attack could prove decisive.
Peter Kennaugh (Sky) joined Tiago Machado (Radioshack) and Franck Schleck (Leopard) in the front from the start. Kennaugh is in the picture attacking at the first climb. However, although the most dangerous was the Sky rider at 1’ 56’’ in the GC, there were several teams keen to fight for the victory at the last climb.
And hell breaks loose at the Côte de Rochetaillée, with all kinds of attacks. Although none of them was very successful, the front group was down to 50 riders at the top of the hill. JoaquÃn RodrÃguez, third in the GC couldn’t keep up with the strong pace and lost ground to the pack.
After going over the climb, a quick descent led the group to the finish. Lloyd Mondory (Liquigas) attacked with 3 kilometres to go and even when the pack started the sprint they couldn’t catch the Frenchman. That’s the first win of the season for Liquigas.
No time differences were awarded at the front group (53 riders), but a big group made it to the finish with 2’ 33’’ lost. They were led by JoaquÃn RodrÃguez, the Lampre rider losing the third spot in the GC. Especially useless was Garmin Cervelo, as they could only keep Tyler Farrar at the front. They are more than 10 minutes down in the teams classification.
As Hubert Dupont was second in the stage, he regained the yellow jersey. With the amount of time bonuses Dupont is collecting, the time differences are slowly increasing, but still manageable for the top 25.
Stage Results
1 | Lloyd Mondory | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | 4h14'24 | 2 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 3 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | s.t. | 4 | Alberto Contador | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 5 | Peter Sagan | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | s.t. | 6 | Andy Schleck | LEOPARD TREK | s.t. | 7 | Mikel Nieve | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 8 | Tom Boonen | HTC - HIGH ROAD | s.t. | 9 | Nick Nuyens | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 10 | Grégory Rast | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. |
General Classification
1 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 13h21'30 | 2 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | + 2 | 3 | Lloyd Mondory | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | + 3 | 4 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | + 6 | 5 | Ben Swift | SKY PROCYCLING | + 11 | 6 | Carlos Barredo | LAMPRE - ISD | + 12 | 7 | Tony Martin | HTC - HIGH ROAD | s.t. | 8 | Jurgen Van den Broeck | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 9 | Mikel Nieve | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | + 13 | 10 | Grégory Rast | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. |
Points
1 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 61 | 2 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | 46 | 3 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | 43 | 4 | Lloyd Mondory | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | 43 | 5 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | 40 |
Mountain
1 | Tiago Machado | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 15 | 2 | Peter Kennaugh | SKY PROCYCLING | 9 | 3 | Michele Scarponi | LAMPRE - ISD | 9 | 4 | Fränk Schleck | LEOPARD TREK | 7 | 5 | Steven Kruijswijk | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 7 |
Teams
1 | BMC RACING TEAM | 40h05'04 | 2 | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 3 | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 4 | LAMPRE - ISD | + 3 | 5 | HTC - HIGH ROAD | + 4 |
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lluuiiggii |
Posted on 30-09-2011 17:04
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Contador and Andy on the Top 6 on a hilly stage, coincidentally realistic lol. And big fail by Garmin xD
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YvesStevens |
Posted on 30-09-2011 18:17
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Nice story anyway, great idea to make it 55 then ... i will follow it!
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mpardo |
Posted on 30-09-2011 20:44
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YvesStevens wrote:
Nice story anyway, great idea to make it 55 then ... i will follow it!
Glad you liked it in the end Now lets go with the next stage
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mpardo |
Posted on 30-09-2011 20:52
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Stage 5: Annonnay - Vallon Pont d'Arc
Stage 5 is also hilly, through the Monts d'Ardeche. However, with the last climb 80 kilometres away from the finish and a GC very tight, we could be set for another mass sprint.
Andy Schleck (Leopard) was the first to attack and got into a breakaway with Mark Cavendish (HTC), Alexandre Vinokourov (Garmin) and Mathias Frank (BMC). Schleck was the best rider in the GC, 2 minutes down on Dupont.
Five climbs afterwards, Franck was a solid KoM leader with 40 points. The break didn't look that good, as shortly before the last sprint they where absorbed by the pack.
And after two days of broken packs, we were set for a mass sprint again. It was Tony Martin (HTC) the fastest today, starting the sprint from behind and overtaking everyone else in the sprint. He moved up to 3rd overall with the 10 bonus seconds.
It was a rather dull day, ahead of the hardest stage tomorrow. We had a new points leader as well, Jelle Vanendert was 4th in the sprint and will wear the green jersey again.
Stage Results
1 | Tony Martin | HTC - HIGH ROAD | 5h30'57 | 2 | Marco Marcato | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | s.t. | 3 | Grégory Rast | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 4 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 5 | Ivan Basso | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | s.t. | 6 | Alexandre Vinokourov | TEAM GARMIN-CERVELO | s.t. | 7 | André Greipel | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 8 | Philippe Gilbert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. | 9 | Peter Kennaugh | SKY PROCYCLING | s.t. | 10 | Chris Horner | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. |
General Classification
1 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 18h52'27 | 2 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | + 2 | 3 | Tony Martin | HTC - HIGH ROAD | s.t. | 4 | Lloyd Mondory | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | + 3 | 5 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | + 6 | 6 | Grégory Rast | TEAM RADIOSHACK | + 9 | 7 | Marco Marcato | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | s.t. | 8 | Ben Swift | SKY PROCYCLING | + 11 | 9 | Carlos Barredo | LAMPRE - ISD | + 12 | 10 | Jurgen Van den Broeck | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | s.t. |
Points
1 | Jelle Vanendert | OMEGA PHARMA-LOTTO | 64 | 2 | Hubert Dupont | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | 61 | 3 | Lloyd Mondory | LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE | 43 | 4 | Jean-Christophe Peraud | LEOPARD TREK | 43 | 5 | Sylvain Chavanel | LAMPRE - ISD | 40 |
Mountain
1 | Mathias Frank | BMC RACING TEAM | 40 | 2 | Mark Cavendish | HTC - HIGH ROAD | 24 | 3 | Andy Schleck | LEOPARD TREK | 19 | 4 | Tiago Machado | TEAM RADIOSHACK | 15 | 5 | Peter Kennaugh | SKY PROCYCLING | 11 |
Teams
1 | BMC RACING TEAM | 56h37'55 | 2 | TEAM RADIOSHACK | s.t. | 3 | SAXO BANK SUNGARD | s.t. | 4 | LAMPRE - ISD | + 3 | 5 | HTC - HIGH ROAD | + 4 |
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