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mvhoogdalem
Well... Celesio is screwed, only 4 riders available for the development team and only 35 euro's left to buy anything. Grin

 
The Rider
Bikex wrote:
There is no problem with UNHCR at the moment, Silvio will just need to free up enough budget to sign the required number of riders, which is 10 not 2 like written in the file, that's the only mistake. Silvio will need to sell one of his better riders.


What do you mean? He is over-budget for the WT team by 705 simoleons. I agree with Ollfardh. My understanding is you can't use the dev team budget to finance the main team, yet here you are allowing him to finance his main team with the dev team budget.

If you are allowing that, OK, but it should have been added to the rules. Wink

 
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The Rider wrote:
Bikex wrote:
There is no problem with UNHCR at the moment, Silvio will just need to free up enough budget to sign the required number of riders, which is 10 not 2 like written in the file, that's the only mistake. Silvio will need to sell one of his better riders.


What do you mean? He is over-budget for the WT team by 705 simoleons. I agree with Ollfardh. My understanding is you can't use the dev team budget to finance the main team, yet here you are allowing him to finance his main team with the dev team budget.

If you are allowing that, OK, but it should have been added to the rules. Wink


I would also be interested to know how much budget I can use for the main team, as they have been out together Wink


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matt17br
The minimum wage of all development riders combined is 1000, the maximum 1500.


Wink

So I guess since 5800 is your budget, 5800 - 1000 = 4800, which is the max budget for your main team, while 4300 is the minimum for the main team (even though you are not forced to spend all the money right now).


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Bikex
The Rider wrote:
Bikex wrote:
There is no problem with UNHCR at the moment, Silvio will just need to free up enough budget to sign the required number of riders, which is 10 not 2 like written in the file, that's the only mistake. Silvio will need to sell one of his better riders.


What do you mean? He is over-budget for the WT team by 705 simoleons. I agree with Ollfardh. My understanding is you can't use the dev team budget to finance the main team, yet here you are allowing him to finance his main team with the dev team budget.

If you are allowing that, OK, but it should have been added to the rules. Wink


The main and dev team budget were from the very beginning only one combined budget. As long as Silvio fulfills all requirements towards the end of the transfer season there is nothing wrong.
Maybe I should add a rule though for next transfer season in which the dev team budget is seen as a seperate budget, but that wasn't the case so far.

 
Ollfardh
Well, I don't think they should be seperated, after all you only decide which riders go into the dev team much later in the transfer period. I was assuming Silvio was over his total budget, not his main team budget. All should be ok then.


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Bikex
Ollfardh wrote:
Well, I don't think they should be seperated, after all you only decide which riders go into the dev team much later in the transfer period. I was assuming Silvio was over his total budget, not his main team budget. All should be ok then.


Yeah that's the reason why I hadn't separated the budgets before.

 
Silvio Herklotz
I understand what TheRider is arguing for. As already noted, there was never any rule saying you can't use the money as you wish for now and care for a full dev team later on. Does it makes sense to separate both? - I don't know. But from my point of view it can't be involved for this transfer season.


 
Ollfardh
So, how is it looking after two days? Aside from brewers, I think most should be done by now?


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Bikex
Ollfardh wrote:
So, how is it looking after two days? Aside from brewers, I think most should be done by now?


We are far from done.. I'll send out PMs to the managers that I didn't get a PM from yet later.

 
Bikex
To get back some activity to the thread I'd like to get back to the calendar discussion. In the spoiler you'll see the calendars of last year:

Spoiler
World Tour
RaceCountryStartDateEndDateStages
Palm ClassicUAE1111111
Tour of ToowoombaAustralia1231275
Vuelta Ciclista al Pais VascoSpain2222276
Omloop Het NieuwsbladBelgium3013011
Strade BiancheItaly3073071
Vuelta a TachiraVenezuela30931810
Milano - SanremoItaly3223221
E3 Prijs Vlaanderen - HarelbekeBelgium3283281
Gent - WevelgemBelgium3303301
Ronde van VlaanderenBelgium4044041
Paris - RoubaixFrance4124121
Trofeo CampaniaItaly4194191
Amstel Gold RaceNetherlands4234231
Liège - Bastogne - LiègeBelgium4274271
University of Lincoln GPBritain5055051
Giro d'ItaliaItaly50952921
Deutschland TourGermany6036119
Vuelta a GuatemalaGuatemala6046118
Tour of Mount FujiJapan6076115
Tour de FranceFrance70172121
Tour of Northern EuropeSweden8098168
Vattenfall CyclassicsGermany8248241
Course de la PaixCzech Republic8258306
Vuelta a EspañaSpain90192121
Eneco TourBelgium9149207
Quebec Sprint ChallengeCanada9259251
Bucaramanga ClassicColombia100410041
Il LombardiaItaly100710071
La Tropicale Amissa BongoGabon101110177
World TTT ChampionshipsTBA102410241
Continental Tour
RaceCountryStartDateEndDateStages
Vuelta a MallorcaSpain2132164
Clasica di Tirreno - AdriaticoItaly3053051
Roma MaximaItaly3093091
Paris - NiceFrance3113188
Istrian Spring TrophyCroatia3203234
Wallonië PrijsBelgium4074071
Giro del TrentinoItaly4104145
Rheden GPNetherlands4164161
La Flèche WallonneBelgium4264261
Colombia Team GPColombia4304301
Tour des FjordsNorway5275304
La JurassaineSwitzerland6026021
Tour de SuisseSwitzerland6146229
La Descente PavéeFrance6276271
Int. Österreich-RundfahrtAustria7027098
Tour of VancouverCanada7237297
Tour de PolognePoland8018077
Baltic Chain TourLatvia8188225
World Ports ClassicNetherlands9029032
Tour of BritainBritain9059128
USA Pro Cycling ChallengeUSA9119177
Paris - ToursFrance100910091
Chrono des NationsFrance101910191
Japan CupJapan102110211
Tour d'IndonesiaIndonesia1141196
Volta ao AlgarvePortugal2032064
National Capital TourAustralia2232264
Tour of EritreaEritrea3013044
København ByrundturDanmark3253251
Critérium InternationalFrance3283303
Ster ZLM TourNetherlands4174215
Tour de RomandieSwitzerland5025076
Amgen Tour of CaliforniaUSA5175248
Tour d'AndorraAndorra6036075
Rheinland-Pfalz RundfahrtGermany6176215
Le Géant de ProvenceFrance6296291
Tour of BulgariaBulgaria7137186
RideLondon–Surrey ClassicBritain8088081
Vuelta a ColombiaColombia80982315
Criterium HainleiteGermany8248241
Post Danmark RundtDanmark8268316
Praha - Karlovy Vary - PrahaCzech Republic9239231
Grand Prix Cycliste de QuébecCanada9279271
Grand Prix Cycliste de MontréalCanada9299291
Tour of BishkekKirgizistan100110033
Milano - TorinoItaly100610061
U25 Tour
RaceCountryStartDateEndDateStages
Copa America de CiclismoBrazil1111111
Ronde van Vlaanderen EspoirsBelgium4024021
La Côte PicardeFrance4134131
ZLM TourNetherlands4154151
GP Palio del ReciotoItaly4254251
Liége - Bastogne - Liège EspoirsBelgium4284281
Rund um den Finanzplatz Eschborn-Frankfurt U23Germany5015011
Carpathian Couriers RacePoland5105145
Paris - Roubaix U25France6016011
Tour de BerlinGermany6096135
Coupe des Nations Ville SaguenayCanada6246263
Internationale Thüringen-RundfahrtGermany7017088
Chrono San MichelFrance7207201
Cascade Cycling ClassicUSA8018066
Tour de l'AvenirFrance9019088
Paris-Tours EspoirsFrance100810081


I think primary target should be to give specializations outside of stage racers the chance to score some more ranking points, that's why I thought to move Worlds Ports Classic up to WT and add a new pure sprinters stage race to the calendar in CT instead.
I think cobblers will get to score more points with an (hopefully) improved PCM15 AI. We still can add that race matt posted on the first page.
I thought about adding a timetrialers stage race or something. I think that can turn out quite cool with a prologue a TTT and two longer ITTs, one hilly one flat. What do you think about that?
The idea of shorter CT GTs was also nice, so I'd bring back the Volta a Portugal, which was also suggested and maybe a to 11 stages reduced Tour of South Africa consisting out of the stages tsmoha made. Also the Vuelta a Colombia would be reduced to 11.
Last season the African stage races weren't really heavily contested, so with the Tour of SA added, I'd might remove the Tour of Eritrea and move Bongo to CT. But I'd still like to have a race from each continent in the WT, so I'd like to add an African one day race to the WT any ideas?
I know the descente pavee race isn't really liked all around but I'd still keep it. It's kind of a fun race.
Are there any more races you guys would like to see removed or do you have any more ideas for new races?
What do you think? Smile


Also I now edited the equipment table standardized every team will use Merida frames, Campagnolo wheels and Groups, Giro Helmets and Oakley glasses. You can change that though if you like in the spoiler are the available brands:

Spoiler
Frames:

1Argon18
2Author
4Berria
5BH
6Bianchi
7BMC
8Boardman
9Bottecchia
10Cannondale
11Canyon
12Carrerra
13Cervelo
15Cipollini
16CKT
17Colnago
18Condor
19Corratec
20Cube
21De Rosa
24Felt
26Focus
27Fondriest
28Fuji
30Genesis
32Giant
33Guerciotti
36Isaac
37Jamis
38Jorbi
39Kemo
41Koga
42KTM
43Kuota
44Lapierre
46Look
47Merckx
48Merida
51Orbea
53Pinarello
59Raleigh
60Ridley
61Rose
62SCOTT
63Simplon
64Specialized
66Swift
69Trek
70Viner
71Vitus
72Vivelo
73Wilier


Wheels:

80Bontrager
81Campagnolo
82Corima
84FFWD
85Fulcrum
86Lightweight
87Mavic
90Shimano
91Vision
92Zipp
93Black Inc.
94Deda Elementi
95Ursus
123HED
124Oval
125DTSwiss
126Enve Composites
1273T


Groupsets:

100Shimano
101Campagnolo
102SRAM


Helmets:

3Specialized Hlm
14Ekoi
22Giro
23Uvex
34Suomy
35Lazer
40Catlike
45Scott Hlm
49POC
50Giant Hlm
54Bell
55Kask
56Bontrager Hlm
57TEC
58Briko
65Abus
67Spiuk Hlm
68MET
74Vittoria
75Casco
76Smith
77SH
78Alpina
79Cannondale Hlm
83Rudy Hlm
88Force
89Louis Garneau
96BBB
97Orbea Hlm
98Limar
99Ranking


Glasses:

110Adidas
111Oakley
112Rudy
113Salice
114Spiuk
115Uvex Gls


If you want to change that use the following table:

TeamIDBrandID
00FR
00WH
00GR
00HL
00GL


Replace all the 00s with your teamID and change the letters into the ID of the brand you want to use for 1Frames 2Wheels 3Groupsets 4Helmets and 5Glasses and post it in this thread.

 
Ollfardh
Well, with one screenshot per race, I would not put too much effort in frames/wheels etc Smile


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jandal7
TeamIDBrandID
5251
5281
00101
0022
00111


No Bolle glasses SadPfft

I think the time-triallist race sounds interesting, as well as the three 11 stage CT "GTs". I think something like Waghlon's BMX race would be fun, but not sure if it's been converted. Would you consider SN's olympics as well?


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Scatmaster111
Weird coincidence that in Jamaica we have a radio station called Zip 92 FM.

TeamIDBrandID
5664
5692
56100
563
56110


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The Rider
B-x - Yeah, keep the Descent Pavee, I'd say, it is different and probably the most breath-taking race on the calendar. Wink

For the WT calendar, here is what I think:

- To change things up I would like to see at least one stage race (for GC guys) clash with at least one GT. (ie Mount Fuji to clash with the TDF).

- We should scrap that WT triple header for sure (at least one of the races).

- Could we start the WT calendar with the Toowoomba stage race, and start the race with a TTT? It would be nice to have a TTT to start us off, I feel.


Edited by The Rider on 08-10-2015 20:16
 
krisa
TeamID BrandID
15 73
15 85
15 101
15 55
15 GL


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trekbmc
Here's my equipment if it matters. Smile

Spoiler
TeamIDBrandID
346
34125
34102
3422
34112





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Shonak
I think it'd be good if some cobbled races were in continental tour. IMo there are also enough sprinter-events in World Tour already, plus lots of fitting stages.


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matt17br
I thought about adding a timetrialers stage race or something. I think that can turn out quite cool with a prologue a TTT and two longer ITTs, one hilly one flat. What do you think about that?

This please. I feel that Time Trialists have too few events where they can win their teams some points. I mean look at where the best TTist in the db ended up in the prestige rankings this year:

70Tony MartinCelesio Pro CyclingGER698


I'd definitely be pro-ttists stage race for that reason. And why not, Chrono des Nations to WT with Chrono des Herbiers new race in CT or viceversa?

Also:

TeamIDBrandID
42153
42281
423101
42422
425113


I think something like Waghlon's BMX race would be fun, but not sure if it's been converted.

u mad bruh? Pfft
Have you ever even played that race? Pfft That would just be plain dumb to add to the calendar!


Edited by matt17br on 08-10-2015 20:53
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krisa
matt17br wrote:
I thought about adding a timetrialers stage race or something. I think that can turn out quite cool with a prologue a TTT and two longer ITTs, one hilly one flat. What do you think about that?

This please. I feel that Time Trialists have too few events where they can win their teams some points. I mean look at where the best TTist in the db ended up in the prestige rankings this year:

70Tony MartinCelesio Pro CyclingGER698


I'd definitely be pro-ttists stage race for that reason.

Also:

TeamIDBrandID
42153
42281
423101
42422
425113


I think something like Waghlon's BMX race would be fun, but not sure if it's been converted.

u mad bruh? Pfft
Have you ever even played that race? Pfft That would just be plain dumb to add to the calendar!
You are saying this cause you bought Malori Banana


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