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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:14
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Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.
Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.
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| SportingNonsense |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:16
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Ian Butler wrote:
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.
Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.
If all youre interested in is who wins the top races, then sure, the Cyanide DB does a decent enough job at that. But away from the top riders, the stats become increasingly random - it lacks depth of quality.
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| jph27 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:17
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.
Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.
If all youre interested in is who wins the top races, then sure, the Cyanide DB does a decent enough job at that. But away from the top riders, the stats become increasingly random - it lacks depth of quality.
Yeah, Hutarovich is 79 in Sprint and Wiggins only 78 in Mountain and TT. Then you have some bizarre things lower down, like randomly overrated French riders.
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 20-06-2012 16:18
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SportingNonsense wrote:
Ian Butler wrote:
Really? I've found it quite realistic.
No complaints from me in that department. In Ardennes it's usually Gilbert - Rodriguez - Schleck etc, in TDF it's mostly about Contador, Schleck, Evans. Vino attacks a lot.
Pretty good if you'd ask me.
Of course, I'm not saying it's perfect, I've had some strange outcomes, but generally I'm quite content about the DB.
If all youre interested in is who wins the top races, then sure, the Cyanide DB does a decent enough job at that. But away from the top riders, the stats become increasingly random - it lacks depth of quality.
I agree with that.
I've mostly raced top races on PCM 2011, so I'm only talking about those.
I do not know a lot about the lower-rated riders, so I can't say anything about it.
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| okalux |
Posted on 20-06-2012 20:24
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 20-06-2012 20:26
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Did I really just read on Cya's forum that the profile can be zoomed in? Right now that the slope colors are gone?
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| ricotero_uy |
Posted on 20-06-2012 20:55
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| climeon |
Posted on 20-06-2012 20:56
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Seems as though attacking is still flawed 
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 20-06-2012 20:59
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https://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img/n/60.../n/608751/
This screen looks interesting. The house on the right of the road doesn't look like a city (otherwise it would have some sort of ground) but does have a wall. And the houses on the top right, near the x kms to go banner also seem to be this way. Could be useful for the smaller cities (I dislike cities with 2 houses and all those city stuff - pavement, etc).
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 20-06-2012 21:35
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Yep, looks like creating stages will be even nicer 
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| Alakagom |
Posted on 20-06-2012 22:03
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Did I really just read on Cya's forum that the profile can be zoomed in? Right now that the slope colors are gone?
That's the only thing I am concerned with the profiles now, it looks good but it doesn't provide you with gradients, hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.
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| FreitasPCM |
Posted on 20-06-2012 22:16
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Well, I like how the stage profiles are shown now. 
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 20-06-2012 22:26
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Alakagom wrote:
..hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.
Well that's actually the contrary of what I said (actually of what I kinda quoted):
max13150 wrote:
Natalz wrote:
Les profils sont très jolis mais trompeurs, surtout si on ne peut pas zoomer : les côtes paraissent toutes plus impressionnantes qu'elles ne le sont vraiment et il faut alors se reporter à la catégorie du col pour en évaluer sa difficulté puisqu'il n'y a plus le orange/rouge pour voir la pente
On peut pas zoomer et c'est bien dommage mais sa apporte une difficulté supplémentaire 
At least that's what the translator gave, if someone can correct me it would be good (=if I haven't understood it right and it actually is possible to zoom)
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| cio93 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 22:59
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
..hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.
Well that's actually the contrary of what I said (actually of what I kinda quoted)
You wrote "can" instead of "can't" 
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| kumazan |
Posted on 20-06-2012 23:04
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Alakagom wrote:
..hope as you said that it can be zoomed in and gradients seen.
Well that's actually the contrary of what I said (actually of what I kinda quoted):
max13150 wrote:
Natalz wrote:
Les profils sont très jolis mais trompeurs, surtout si on ne peut pas zoomer : les côtes paraissent toutes plus impressionnantes qu'elles ne le sont vraiment et il faut alors se reporter à la catégorie du col pour en évaluer sa difficulté puisqu'il n'y a plus le orange/rouge pour voir la pente
On peut pas zoomer et c'est bien dommage mais sa apporte une difficulté supplémentaire
At least that's what the translator gave, if someone can correct me it would be good (=if I haven't understood it right and it actually is possible to zoom)
It says that you can't zoom in the profile, yup, but you said that you can. 
It was obviously a typo though, it was clear in the context.
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| cunego59 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 23:07
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Okay my French may not be the best but from what I understood, it says that you can't zoom in on the profiles, and they also appear more difficult than they actually are, so you basically have to rely on the category of the climb to figure how difficult a climb in fact is.
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| cio93 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 23:12
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Yay. Add something fancy, but combine something annoying with it.
I guess the second patch at the latest will enable zooming in.
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| lluuiiggii |
Posted on 20-06-2012 23:18
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Ups, small typo indeed.
cio93 wrote:
I guess the second patch at the latest will enable zooming in.
Let's hope so. The thing I've actually liked from the new graphics (and nearly the whole game) is also bugged
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| cio93 |
Posted on 20-06-2012 23:23
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lluuiiggii wrote:
Ups, small typo indeed.
cio93 wrote:
I guess the second patch at the latest will enable zooming in.
Let's hope so. The thing I've actually liked from the new graphics (and nearly the whole game) is also bugged
Quite frustrating indeed, but nothing new from Cyanide.
But without slope colours, zooming in is pretty much necessary to anticipate the racing.
Especially considering it worked absolutely fine so far, I don't know what prevented them from including it.
It shouldn't be a big deal to apply the basics for zooming to the new profiles after all?
Edited by cio93 on 20-06-2012 23:26
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| Ian Butler |
Posted on 21-06-2012 06:45
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Well, it could be a pos thing that you don't know the slopes. Maybe stage recon has more effects that way. Or maybe you just gotta be able to guess every hill.
It'll probably bug everyone in the beginning but it could turn into something nice, maybe.
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