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Roturn`s Stages
lluuiiggii
Schleck96 wrote:
Can someone upload the Descr file from the 2008 TDF variant?

Just make sure that the stage files are named the same as in the .descr file.

lluuiiggii attached the following file:
descr-file.rar [1.64kB / 139 Downloads]

Edited by lluuiiggii on 14-04-2012 21:10
 
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Schleck96
thanks

 
lokytrew
Hey Roturn! I've just played your Ronde van Vlaanderen 2010, and I just want to say that there is a house on the top of the Muur which is IN the road. I thought that it did not look well, so I decided to say it.

 
lluuiiggii
lokytrew wrote:
Hey Roturn! I've just played your Ronde van Vlaanderen 2010, and I just want to say that there is a house on the top of the Muur which is IN the road. I thought that it did not look well, so I decided to say it.

I guess he knows it (mentioned a lot of times, and he must have played it several times as well) Wink


 
lokytrew
Ok! It played quite awesome by the way. It was really realistic. (except for that house then Pfft)

 
roturn
I think I already forgot about it again.

I think I started to "repair" it, but on the hill there was always something new then that was weird.

So I decided to have the hill percentages as realistic as possible. This had higher priority than this one house then. Not the best way to do it but well. Wink

 
roturn
Have modified my Paris Roubaix.
All narrow roads are being changed to normal roads now. So the blocking issue in PCM11 can be solved.

I had no time to test it several times but the first try was pretty promising.

Also added the DL link into the first post: https://www.mediaf...czsxs4pniv

First test:
Spoiler
1Tom BoonenQuick·Step Cycling Team6h44'32
2Alessandro BallanHTC - Highroads.t.
3Fabian CancellaraLeopard Treks.t.
4Martijn MaaskantTeam Garmin - Cervélo+ 50
5Juan Antonio FlechaSky ProCyclings.t.
6Heinrich HausslerTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
7Sebastian LangeveldSaxo Bank SunGard+ 1'46
8Johan VansummerenTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
9Nick NuyensLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
10Matthew HaymanSky ProCycling+ 2'37
11Baden CookeSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
12Sylvain ChavanelQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
13Stijn DevolderVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
14Sébastien HinaultAG2R La Mondiale+ 4'41
15Maarten TjallingiiRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
16Filippo PozzatoLampre - ISDs.t.
17Maxim IglinskiyPro Team Astanas.t.
18Greg Van AvermaetQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
19Martin ElmigerAG2R La Mondiales.t.
20Bernhard EiselHTC - Highroads.t.
21Manuel QuinziatoBMC Racing Teams.t.
22Frédéric GuesdonFDJs.t.
23Yohan OffredoFDJs.t.
24Lars BoomTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
25Leif HosteKatusha Team+ 5'40
26Thor HushovdKatusha Team+ 6'36
27Marcus BurghardtBMC Racing Teams.t.
28Ricardo Van der VeldeTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
29Matthew GossTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
30Lars Ytting BakHTC - Highroads.t.
31Niki TerpstraQuick·Step Cycling Team+ 9'39
32Danilo HondoLampre - ISD+ 9'57
33Luca PaoliniKatusha Teams.t.
34Steve ChainelFDJs.t.
35Sep VanmarckeOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
36Grégory RastTeam RadioShacks.t.
37Lloyd MondoryAG2R La Mondiales.t.
38Fabio FellineTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
39Kevin Van ImpeQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
40Sergueï IvanovKatusha Teams.t.
41Aleksandr KuschynskiKatusha Teams.t.
42John DegenkolbHTC - Highroads.t.
43Hayden RoulstonHTC - Highroads.t.
44Stijn VandenberghKatusha Teams.t.
45Dominique RollinFDJ+ 11'03
46Assan BazayevPro Team Astanas.t.
47Maarten WynantsRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
48Daniel OssLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
49Matteo TosattoSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
50Edvald Boasson HagenSky ProCyclings.t.
51Martin MortensenLeopard Treks.t.
52Jeremy HuntSky ProCyclings.t.
53Damien GaudinTeam Europcars.t.
54Geraint ThomasSky ProCyclings.t.
55Arnaud CoyotSaur - Sojasuns.t.
56Joost PosthumaLeopard Treks.t.
57Peter SaganHTC - Highroads.t.
58Marco MarcatoVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team+ 13'11
59Aleksejs SaramotinsCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
60Mitchell DockerSkil - Shimanos.t.
61Grega BoleLampre - ISDs.t.
62Óscar FreireRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
63Gorik GardeynVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
64Robbie McEwenTeam RadioShacks.t.
65Daniele BennatiSky ProCyclings.t.
66Jimmy EngoulventSaur - Sojasuns.t.
67Lieuwe WestraRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
68Dimitriy MuravyevTeam RadioShacks.t.
69Vladimir GusevKatusha Teams.t.
70Bram TankinkRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
71David VeilleuxTeam Europcars.t.
72Taylor PhinneyTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
73Rick FlensRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
74Gabriel RaschTeam Europcar+ 14'45
75Enrico GasparottoPro Team Astanas.t.
76Klaas LodewyckOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
77Marcel SiebergOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
78Alexandre PichotTeam Europcars.t.
79Frederik WillemsOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
80David BoucherOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
81Jens DebusschereOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
82Vincent JérômeTeam Europcars.t.
83Kristof GoddaertAG2R La Mondiales.t.
84Gianni MeersmanFDJs.t.
85Roger HammondSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
86Ronan Van ZandbeekSkil - Shimanos.t.
87Adrien PetitCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
88Laurent MangelSaur - Sojasuns.t.
89Ian StannardSky ProCyclings.t.
90Johnny HoogerlandVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
91Dennis Van WindenRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
92Kurt-Asle ArvesenSky ProCyclings.t.
93Andriy GrivkoPro Team Astanas.t.
94Alexandre VinokourovPro Team Astanas.t.
95Sébastien RosselerTeam RadioShacks.t.
96Paolo Longo BorghiniLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
97Kasper KlostergaardSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
98Michael SchärBMC Racing Teams.t.
99Iljo KeisseQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
100Anthony RavardAG2R La Mondiales.t.
101Stéphane PoulhièsSaur - Sojasuns.t.
102Tom StamsnijderLeopard Treks.t.
103Simon SpilakLampre - ISDs.t.
104Tom LeezerRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
105Stuart O'GradyLeopard Treks.t.
106Mathieu ClaudeTeam Europcar+ 16'26
107Michael MørkøvSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
108Kristof VandewalleQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
109Sébastien MinardAG2R La Mondiales.t.
110Alberto OngaratoVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team+ 17'43
111Yuriy KrivtsovAG2R La Mondiales.t.
112Alex RasmussenLampre - ISDs.t.
113Fabio SabatiniLiquigas - Cannondale+ 19'31
114Bart De ClercqOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
115Tristan ValentinCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
116Yauheni HutarovichFDJs.t.
117Mickaël DelageFDJs.t.
118Imanol ErvitiMovistar Teams.t.
119Cyril LemoineSaur - Sojasuns.t.
120Tony GallopinCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
121Mauro FinettoLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
122Mirco LorenzettoPro Team Astanas.t.
123Danilo WyssBMC Racing Teams.t.
124Rui CostaMovistar Teams.t.
125Chad BeyerBMC Racing Teams.t.
126Ignatas KonovalovasMovistar Teams.t.
127Nikolai TrussovKatusha Teams.t.
128Mathieu PergetAG2R La Mondiales.t.
129Nikolas MaesQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
130Pablo LastrasMovistar Teams.t.
131Vicente ReynèsOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
132Arnaud LabbeCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
133Martin VelitsHTC - Highroads.t.
134Bjorn SelanderTeam RadioShacks.t.
135Dominic KlemmeLeopard Trek+ 20'25
136Robert WagnerLeopard Trek+ 21'18
137Anders LundLeopard Treks.t.
138Jean-Lou PaianiSaur - Sojasun+ 22'12
139Denys KostyukLampre - ISDs.t.
140Mirko SelvaggiVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
141Frederik VeuchelenVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team+ 23'53
142Sébastien TurgotTeam Europcar+ 25'12
143José Vicente García AcostaMovistar Teams.t.
144Markel IrizarTeam RadioShacks.t.
145Javier Francisco AramendiaEuskaltel - Euskadis.t.
146Iñaki IsasiEuskaltel - Euskadi+ 25'42
147Wouter MolVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team+ 26'22
148Rony MartiasSaur - Sojasuns.t.
149Roy CurversSkil - Shimanos.t.
150Andrey MizourovPro Team Astana+ 28'03
151Yannick EijssenBMC Racing Teams.t.
152Alan MarangoniLiquigas - Cannondales.t.
153Jonathan BellisSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
154Yohann GèneTeam Europcars.t.
155Sam BewleyTeam RadioShacks.t.
156Maxim GourovPro Team Astanas.t.
157Fang HanSkil - Shimano+ 29'59

Ignore the teams and strength. I tested it with my story DB from PCM10, where I am in the 4th season.

Feel free to test as well and post it here in the thread using the spoiler function.

 
lluuiiggii
Looks very nice roturn, thanks for taking the time to do it Smile

Just tested it for the first time, I also liked the results. Biggest group in the Top 10 was made of 4 riders, 6th-10th. Boonen won it in a very dominant way, kinda like Cancellara in 2010.
Spoiler
1Tom BoonenQuick·Step Cycling Team6h53'00
2Thor HushovdTeam Garmin - Cervélo+ 52
3Fabian CancellaraLeopard Trek+ 3'11
4Juan Antonio FlechaSky ProCyclings.t.
5Matti BreschelRabobank Cycling Team+ 4'55
6Björn LeukemansVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Team+ 5'31
7Filippo PozzatoKatusha Team+ 6'17
8Alessandro BallanBMC Racing Teams.t.
9Nick NuyensSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
10Sylvain ChavanelQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
11Frédéric GuesdonFDJ+ 7'16
12Roger HammondTeam Garmin - Cervélo+ 9'07
13Leif HosteKatusha Teams.t.
14Johan VansummerenTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
15Bernhard EiselHTC - Highroad+ 9'43
16Greg Van AvermaetBMC Racing Teams.t.
17Lars Ytting BakHTC - Highroads.t.
18Heinrich HausslerTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
19Lars BoomRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
20Sebastian LangeveldRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
21Gert SteegmansQuick·Step Cycling Team+ 11'38
22Stijn DevolderVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
23Martin ElmigerAG2R La Mondiales.t.
24Grégory RastTeam RadioShacks.t.
25Niki TerpstraQuick·Step Cycling Team+ 14'53
26Luca PaoliniKatusha Team+ 16'58
27Edvald Boasson HagenSky ProCyclings.t.
28Marcus BurghardtBMC Racing Teams.t.
29Sep VanmarckeTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
30Martijn MaaskantTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
31Dominique RollinFDJs.t.
32Gorik GardeynVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
33Maarten TjallingiiRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
34Marco MarcatoVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
35Stuart O'GradyLeopard Treks.t.
36Tomas VaitkusPro Team Astanas.t.
37Lieuwe WestraVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
38Maxim IglinskiyPro Team Astanas.t.
39Kevin Van ImpeQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
40Gustav Erik LarssonSaxo Bank SunGards.t.
41Frederik WillemsOmega Pharma - Lotto+ 19'34
42Matthew HaymanSky ProCycling+ 21'20
43Grega BoleLampre - ISDs.t.
44Robbie McEwenTeam RadioShacks.t.
45Kristof GoddaertAG2R La Mondiales.t.
46Adrien PetitCofidis, le crédit en lignes.t.
47David VeilleuxTeam Europcars.t.
48Steve ChainelFDJs.t.
49Lloyd MondoryAG2R La Mondiales.t.
50Arnaud CoyotSaur - Sojasuns.t.
Note: 2011 DB.
142 riders finished the race. The pace was quite hard in the first cobbles, but after the bigger sections there was no breakaway and the peloton took it very easy. I was trying not to make the race hard, as to not modify much the results, but it was still easy when we got to Arenberg so I upped the pace there (playing with Leopard btw). With 50 or so kms came the attacks by Cancellara, Flecha and Boonen, who would go solo already now and leave both others behind, while a group of 14 riders I think was the next chasing one. Several kms later Hushovd joined the chasing duo. He and Flecha would attack on the next section of cobbles and leave Cancellara behind, which was already one of the last sections. The chasing group behind had also split into several smaller ones and individual riders. Cancellara eventually got back to Flecha and just beat him in the sprint for 3rd.

I will run a couple more tests when I have more time. Also re-play the old version to have results, number of cyclists left in main group with X kms to go, etc.. Another test which might be interesting is test with the man-game DB, or also with normal DBs, and do nothing with a control team. Hopefully the next tests will also give good results Smile


 
roturn
Here`s another test.
Man Game Stats
Spoiler
1Tom BoonenNestlé Cycling Team6h44'58
2Marcus BurghardtBacardi - Ignis+ 1'33
3Fabian CancellaraCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecoms.t.
4Sam BewleyMilka - Vittel+ 2'11
5Nick NuyensDomina Vacanze+ 2'53
6Tom VeelersKoppert Cycling Teams.t.
7Vladimir GusevSpyker Carss.t.
8Alessandro BallanSony Ericssons.t.
9Jérôme BaugniesWebeffects.t.
10Geert SteursFestina - Conecs.t.
11Andrew FennWiggle - San Pellegrinos.t.
12Danny SummerhillWikipedias.t.
13Michel SibillaNestlé Cycling Teams.t.
14Fabien TaillefourKoppert Cycling Teams.t.
15Enrico FranzoiPearl Adidas+ 5'51
16Gert SteegmansBacardi - Igniss.t.
17Marcel SiebergJack Wolfskins.t.
18Pieter JacobsCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecoms.t.
19Kevin FouquetSony Ericssons.t.
20Geraint ThomasPendleton's Twicers.t.
21Jempy DruckerTeam B&Os.t.
22Wim De VochtPearl Adidass.t.
23Sebastian LangeveldKoppert Cycling Team+ 8'59
24Stijn DevolderSpyker Cars+ 10'22
25Luke RoweWiggle - San Pellegrinos.t.
26Stijn JosephPearl Adidass.t.
27Kevin EeckhoutWikipedias.t.
28Jesus Del NeroSantanders.t.
29Leonardo DuqueCafé de Colombia+ 10'56
30Marc MachadoNestlé Cycling Teams.t.
31Nicolas PortalNestlé Cycling Teams.t.
32Clément LhotellerieCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecom+ 12'13
33Kenny De HaesPearl Adidass.t.
34Steven KruijswijkTeam B&Os.t.
35Francisco VentosoSantander+ 14'10
36Alexandre AulasCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecoms.t.
37Dmitri MuravjevSony Ericssons.t.
38Steven CaethovenCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecoms.t.
39Danilo WyssDomina Vacanzes.t.
40Laurens Ten DamJack Wolfskins.t.
41Sven NooytensWebeffects.t.
42Sébastien JolyCafé de Colombias.t.
43Jurgen RoelandtsCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecoms.t.
44Niki ØstergaardFestina - Conecs.t.
45Koen De KortJack Wolfskins.t.
46Pieter MertensPendleton's Twicers.t.
47David KoppProximus - Treks.t.
48Tyler FarrarWikipedias.t.
49Arman KamyshevKoppert Cycling Teams.t.
50Bas GilingJack Wolfskins.t.
51Sébastien RosselerJack Wolfskins.t.
52Joost PosthumaJack Wolfskins.t.
53Evert VerbistMilka - Vittels.t.
54Timothy VangheelWikipedias.t.
55Michael SchärNestlé Cycling Teams.t.
56Alexandr NepomnyachsniyMilka - Vittels.t.
57Morten ReckwegTeam B&Os.t.
58Jonas DecouttereWikipedias.t.
59Martin MortensenSony Ericsson+ 15'47
60David DerooDomina Vacanze+ 16'14
61Michael Van StayenBacardi - Ignis+ 17'07
62Klaas SysJack Wolfskins.t.
63Jimmy CasperWikipedias.t.
64Mathieu HeijboerBacardi - Ignis+ 18'03
65Kristof GoddaertFestina - Conec+ 18'26
66Wouter WeylandtCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecom+ 18'49
67Thomas De GendtMilka - Vittel+ 19'31
68Yoann OffredoPearl Adidass.t.
69Óscar GueraoSantanders.t.
70Nolan HoffmanNestlé Cycling Teams.t.
71Jukka VastarantaPearl Adidass.t.
72Michael ReihsSony Ericssons.t.
73Tom LeezerPearl Adidass.t.
74Ian BibbyWiggle - San Pellegrinos.t.
75Daniel AlloncaSantanders.t.
76Rasmus GuldhammerTeam B&Os.t.
77Juan Abenhamar Gallego MartinSantanders.t.
78Aleksandr KuschynskiWiggle - San Pellegrinos.t.
79Aidis KruopisBacardi - Igniss.t.
80Lars TommersenProximus - Treks.t.
81Remy BourdouxheWebeffects.t.
82Thomas Riber-SellebjergTeam B&O+ 20'44
83David VitoriaNestlé Cycling Teams.t.
84Zdenek StybarMilka - Vittels.t.
85Simas KondrotasBacardi - Igniss.t.
86Kévin LalouetteUBS - La Pierre+ 22'40
87Kristoffer NielsenTeam B&Os.t.
88Björn SchröderDomina Vacanzes.t.
89Jay McCarthyKoppert Cycling Teams.t.
90Dan HollowayFestina - Conec+ 23'37
91Igor AbakoumovBacardi - Igniss.t.
92Mauro Da DaltoDomina Vacanze+ 24'03
93Oscar FreireKoppert Cycling Teams.t.
94Kris BoeckmansWebeffects.t.
95Leopold KönigMilka - Vittels.t.
96Hassen Ben NasserProximus - Trek+ 25'03
97Ben CurfsCarmeuse - Bouygues Telecom+ 25'48
98Joren ClaesProximus - Trek+ 26'36
99Romain ZingleWebeffect+ 27'04
100Yannick StoltzProximus - Trek+ 28'07
101Anthony DelaplaceMilka - Vittels.t.
102Martin PedersenSpyker Cars+ 29'11
103Romain VanderbiestPearl Adidass.t.
104Freddy JohanssonSony Ericssons.t.


 
Pellizotti2
Sounds great. I'll give it a try later too. Smile


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lluuiiggii
Ran two more tests: first with a control team (Euskaltel Pfft), another with a team with small prospects (Lampre). Unfortunately I've just discovered that only the first tests results were exported. Nevertheless I wrote down the number of riders in the main group at some points:

Euskaltel test:
Way too easy pace, still 160! riders with 60 kms to go
Down to 60 riders with 50 kms left (split)
Another split leaving 40 riders with 40 kms left
Then Cancellara goes solo, Hushovd and Ballan join, soon 2 more riders join, and just into the velodrome the second group made of 5 riders join, making it a 10 rider-sprint, won by Hushovd. 162 riders finished in time.
Spoiler
1Thor HushovdTeam Garmin - Cervélo6h44'32
2Fabian CancellaraLeopard Treks.t.
3Tom BoonenQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
4Matti BreschelRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
5Juan Antonio FlechaSky ProCyclings.t.
6Alessandro BallanBMC Racing Teams.t.
7Filippo PozzatoKatusha Teams.t.
8Sebastian LangeveldRabobank Cycling Team+ 47
9Björn LeukemansVacansoleil - DCM Pro Cycling Teams.t.
10Johan VansummerenTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
11Nick NuyensSaxo Bank SunGard+ 2'53
12Leif HosteKatusha Team+ 3'14
13Heinrich HausslerTeam Garmin - Cervélo+ 3'36
14Stuart O'GradyLeopard Treks.t.
15Roger HammondTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
16Sylvain ChavanelQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
17Sébastien HinaultAG2R La Mondiales.t.
18Niki TerpstraQuick·Step Cycling Teams.t.
19Lars Ytting BakHTC - Highroad+ 4'45
20Lloyd MondoryAG2R La Mondiale+ 5'52
21Bernhard EiselHTC - Highroads.t.
22Frédéric GuesdonFDJs.t.
23Greg Van AvermaetBMC Racing Team+ 8'29
24Daniele BennatiLeopard Trek+ 8'44
25Martijn MaaskantTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
26Steve ChainelFDJs.t.
27Dominique RollinFDJs.t.
28Maxim IglinskiyPro Team Astana+ 9'27
29Kevin Van ImpeQuick·Step Cycling Team+ 10'13
30Maarten WynantsRabobank Cycling Team+ 11'42
31Hayden RoulstonHTC - Highroads.t.
32André GreipelOmega Pharma - Lottos.t.
33Maarten TjallingiiRabobank Cycling Teams.t.
34Yohan OffredoFDJs.t.
35Grega BoleLampre - ISDs.t.
36Edvald Boasson HagenSky ProCyclings.t.
37Bert GrabschHTC - Highroads.t.
38David MillarTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.
39George HincapieBMC Racing Teams.t.
40Andreas KlierTeam Garmin - Cervélos.t.

Lampre test:
This time a harder pace, 67 riders left with 100 kms to go
Down to 41 riders with 50 kms left, and 34 riders with 40 kms to go
Didn't follow the moves on the front and results weren't exported, all I know is that the maximum number of riders in front group was 5 (some time after the finish I scrolled all groups to the front and E1 said 5, but they could have joined after the finish). Only 71 riders finished the race.

These two results were not as promising as the initial ones, but then again the narrow-roads version usually doesn't give results too different from these.

Btw, is it just me or for the others in the post-race newspaper it appears XRider wins the \"Hell of the North\" (with these \ \ )?

Edit: btw, would there be any chance that you could re-export the race including the Roubaix-specific commentaries (beginning, Troisvilles, Carrefour de l'Arbre and velodrome)? It's very nice to hear them Smile


Edited by lluuiiggii on 13-05-2012 04:34
 
roturn
lluuiiggii wrote:
Edit: btw, would there be any chance that you could re-export the race including the Roubaix-specific commentaries (beginning, Troisvilles, Carrefour de l'Arbre and velodrome)? It's very nice to hear them Smile

I might give it a go later. Probably next weekend where I have 4 days off in a row. Am not that used into the commentary stuff but should be able to get into it.


The results are not that much different to the narrow roads indeed. But there is one big advantage imo. With the narrow roads there always have been 4-5 riders with ~78+ stats, that got blocked by weaker helpers, who did the pace before or just protected their leaders. So some of the big favorites had no chance to perform on their level.
With the normal roads all big names are ahead except of some with a bad form, bad daily form or the riders with crashes or punctures.

 
Johan92
I don't like the narrow roads in normal stages, unless they are really needed because of something special with the road. What I really hate is all these variants with narrow roads spread all over the place, that really ruins the race. However in classics like Roubaix, Vlaanderen etc I think they are needed. Because the narrow roads are a big factor irl. The classics is supposed to be messy and tricky. So the narrow roads in the classics is a part of the charm playing those races. But keep them out of normal road stages indeed.



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roturn
In normal stages I generally keep them out. Except for my first 2-3 races I have ever created.

In these classics I have two versions now. One with narrow and one without. I also like the charm of it as it looks sometimes weird to see that wide roads in P-R.
But the results look similar and sometimes even better.


 
lluuiiggii
I agree with that. However, if using narrow roads means we'll see 6, 8 rider groups sprints at the end of Roubaix more often than using normal roads, I'd surely go for the normal roads. So far I've seen 5 tests in this thread, 3 gave good results, 1 'normal' and 1 not really good. The 'messy' classics imo only appeared with PCM 11 and the solid rider model. In PCM 09 for instance, they weren't messy and the roads were wide (weird looking). However I'd surely go for PCM 09 gameplay of cobble classics (and classics in general).


 
roturn
Both fantasy WC`s now also playable for PCM11. Unfortunately no chance to "convert" the new Tokio one for PCM11 as I created this race with the new editor accidently.

WC/NC Spain Saragoza

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i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Roturn1988/Stages/SaragozaWC.jpg

WC/NC Belgium Geraardsbergen

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i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g434/Roturn1988/Profil-5.jpg

 
roturn
Also made for PCM11:

Milano - Torino 2012
192.00 km - Download
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