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While we're waiting: The Fix
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I've been getting a lot of questions about what caused the crash, how we fixed it, etc., etc. - so let's start off with this as the first 'while we're waiting' news piece.

First of all, everyone should thank T-Photon. I didn't fix it, Cyanide didn't fix it, none of the good ideas coming from other well-known and respected database makers fixed the problem. The one who did was T-Photon. And the bug we suffered from seems to be a new PCM08 variant of the well-known March bug. I gave the .cdb to T-Photon, he fixed the March problem "in case that was what we suffered from", as he put it. I didn't think it was that, simply because the 'symptoms' didn't match what the March bug is generally known for doing - so I didn't test it until this morning.

And luckily for us, the fixed .cdb from T-Photon didn't crash.

But there's also some bad news related to this. There's some negative consequences of having implented the March bug fix. So far, we're only aware of one: It's impossible for Continental teams to seek wildcards for all Pro Tour events EXCEPT the three Grand Tours, Giro d'Italia, Tour de France and the Vuelta. In some cases, some will be picked automatically, in other cases only the PT teams will ride.

Other than that, we didn't notice anything.

Lastly, it's also worth thanking both bobcatsman and Im_the_best_coach. Both of them tried their best to help.

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#1 | Johan92 on 26. April 2009 20:03
It's impossible for Continental teams to seek wildcards for all Pro Tour events EXCEPT the three Grand Tours, Giro d'Italia, Tour de France and the Vuelta. In some cases, some will be picked automatically, in other cases only the PT teams will ride.

A serious really bad bug. Me not like.
#2 | crazyman2008 on 26. April 2009 20:07
so there is still a huge bug in it? is it that bad if you leave the other one in, because is this bug not even bigger than the previous??
#3 | CrueTrue on 26. April 2009 20:09
The March bug made it impossible to use the DB in more than one season.

That compared to no Continental invites ... I wouldn't call it neither 'serious' nor 'huge'.

That said, if the bug is too much for you, there's other 09 databases: RSM News 09 DB, P&A DB, etc.
#4 | bobcatsman on 26. April 2009 20:09
The previous bug made the career crash on the day of the last stage of Paris-Nice so, it's not bigger. Wink
#5 | crazyman2008 on 26. April 2009 20:22
well, in my opinion it is kind of serious. as a continental team, you don't have any control on the races you want to go to. I don't want to criticise your work, so don't take this personally, the only question I asked myself is, was this the best way to put it or would it be better to release it with the other bug so you can edit this with your editor when you got there, you see?
#6 | Johan92 on 26. April 2009 20:24
Personally I prefer jumping over the crash day with an editor, than not compete in the PT races you want with a CT-team.
#7 | Thrige on 26. April 2009 20:26
Well... I can see, what you're talkin' about, but remember: There is a lot of people, and I mean a LOT, who doesn't know, how to use an editor... But for them/us who can, that would maybe be the best solution...
#8 | CrueTrue on 26. April 2009 20:27
If I were you, I'd go for another DB then Wink
#9 | jossa on 26. April 2009 20:27
It stands that it`s just the G-T you dont cant apply to.
#10 | CrueTrue on 26. April 2009 20:28
No, opposite. You can send get wildcards to Grand Tours, but not to other PT-events.
#11 | Batto90 on 26. April 2009 20:29
thanks t-photon.
#12 | Fus87 on 26. April 2009 20:30
As I understand it, the March crash was caused by your stage variants for Paris-Nice. If one doesn't use these variants, but the same stages every year, and uses the "original" DB (without T-Photon's fix), would the game crash anyway?
#13 | CrueTrue on 26. April 2009 20:31
The March crash wasn't caused by stage variants.
#14 | Andreas93 on 26. April 2009 20:31
Cant you just release the cdb with the march-bug too? It is not that difficult, or what?
#15 | CrueTrue on 26. April 2009 20:32
That's not going to happen.

It's worth noting that it wasn't just one crash. If you get past the 15th, you're getting a new crash on the 17th and one again on the 19th. There's also a few in April. And this is going to happen in all years, not just 2010.

If we find a solution which is better than this one, we'll release a new .cdb. Until then, live with this or choose one of the other great databases which have been released.
#16 | DavorSuker on 26. April 2009 20:32
Great work guys, looking forward to play with this database. Positive thing about the new bug, it costs me less time to choose a team, I'll just take a PT team :lol:
#17 | crazyman2008 on 26. April 2009 20:35
and there is finally a fair chance to get in a PT-course. I hated it when my wildcard is being refused xD
maybe you could think of releasing it with the bug later, but I agree with you, first things first
#18 | jossa on 26. April 2009 20:40
Long time to realese?
#19 | alexkr00 on 26. April 2009 20:44
and if you are a CT team don't exhaust your riders in PT races so you can win the CT rankings and get promote. Then you'll ride all the PT racesPfft
#20 | Batto90 on 26. April 2009 20:49
and now the release ....
#21 | roger_94 on 26. April 2009 21:02
and we're waiting...
#22 | Flying High United on 26. April 2009 21:02
tic tac... everybody is waiting in patience Pfft
#23 | Johan92 on 26. April 2009 21:03
OMG, have some patience.
#24 | Flying High United on 26. April 2009 21:09
Wasn't meant that way Wink
#25 | Gonchar on 26. April 2009 21:11
OK. I was planning to play as a (pro) continental team. If there is no way to apply for a spot in most pro-tour races, how are the wildcards selected? Will I get invited to some Pro Tour races by random, by results in general or results in races of particular typer or in particular countries?
#26 | alexkr00 on 26. April 2009 21:33
43 members online.Shock

I think that the release being tonight has something to do with that.
#27 | roger_94 on 26. April 2009 21:34
this year's happening Wink
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