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Coppa Placci - Discussion
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| Nemolito |
Posted on 16-11-2024 07:57
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 Coppa Placci (C2)
Hello and welcome to San Marino for the C2 hilly classic Coppa Placci. Last year  Lafay won this race for Bordeaux and he's back to defend his honour for new main sponsor Euskotren. Let''s have a look at the profile.
Yes, that is hilly. Up and down all day, with an uphill finish that saw an incredible remontada of  Moscon against Wilco Kelderman back in 2020. And the Italian is also back to defend his (former) title! Let's have a look at the full list of favourites.
| Nat. | Name | MO | HI | ST | RS | SP | AC |  |  Eiking Odd Christian | 69 | 81 | 78 | 74 | 68 | 76 |  | Moscon Gianni | 73 | 80 | 76 | 77 | 60 | 73 |  | Waeytens Zico | 70 | 79 | 70 | 68 | 65 | 71 |  |  Jensen Kristian Haugaard | 69 | 79 | 76 | 72 | 65 | 75 | |  Bystrom Sven Erik | 68 | 79 | 75 | 72 | 68 | 76 |  |  Beltran Eduard Alexander | 76 | 78 | 68 | 67 | 63 | 71 |  |  Koretzky Clement | 68 | 78 | 72 | 65 | 68 | 74 |  | Yates Joel | 65 | 78 | 77 | 74 | 62 | 69 |  |  Raileanu Cristian | 77 | 77 | 74 | 73 | 59 | 70 |  |  Guerreiro Ruben | 76 | 77 | 73 | 73 | 72 | 72 |  |  Lyu Xianjing | 75 | 77 | 75 | 76 | 63 | 74 | | Lafay Victor | 75 | 77 | 72 | 72 | 63 | 74 |  |  Paulus Daniel | 74 | 77 | 71 | 68 | 62 | 71 |  | Mager Christian | 74 | 77 | 68 | 70 | 60 | 71 | | Zordan Andrea | 73 | 77 | 72 | 72 | 65 | 74 |  |  Serrano Gonzalo | 72 | 77 | 73 | 75 | 68 | 77 |  |  Nikiema Bachirou | 70 | 77 | 72 | 74 | 70 | 76 | | Skjerping Kristoffer | 70 | 77 | 71 | 67 | 58 | 65 | | Izagirre Ion | 70 | 77 | 67 | 66 | 56 | 58 | |  Lopez Juan Pedro | 78 | 76 | 71 | 72 | 60 | 78 |
Purely based on the punchiness Eiking is the number one favourite, although there will obviously be other factors coming into play. It will definitely help when you're a decent climber, as shown by co-favourite Moscon in 2020. The Italian can count on superdomestique Waeytens again, and you can add other decent puncheurs such as Zordan and Watson to that domestique list as well.
Jensen will be looking to continue his good early season form for Genii, whereas Bystrom is the next Scandinavian rider on the list and has a very similar skillset to the Dane, let's see if he can podium for Ethiopian Airlines tomorrow. One could say his mission is to fly up that final hill.
Beltran has not been flying so far this season, and has another shot at that with co-leader Yates tomorrow. They both have their strenghts. Apart from those two the other 78 rated puncheur on the list is Koretzky. The Gjensidige Frenchman is not spectacular in anything, but rather decent at everything. Will that be a succes formula for tomorrow? His goal is to beat former Gjensidige rider Eiking.
Let's have a look at the hybrid 77 puncheurs then. Raileanu has been a good asset for new team Babymetal so far, and will be looking to make manager UlaMog smile again. Guerreiro has also been doing okay for his new team Würth - MODYF, but still hopes to get that one big result. Being both a decent climber and sprinter could mean tomorrow's the day for that. Lyu has been sacrificing his chances for other teammates to score well in past races, but will also be eager to show he can score himself. And Lafay knows what it takes to win this race, so why not do it twice in a row?
Paulus is PCT's Ekoi - Le Creuset hope to score some C2 points, whereas Serrano leads Euskadi - Murias and the fast finisher Nikiema hopes to cement himself into a legendary rider at Simba. All-in on hybrid power at Newton then, as their squad is being lead by the Spaniard Lopez. Local PCT teams Sauber and Benetton are being lead by  Pellaud and  Vliegen.
Full startlist:
Spoiler  Visser Visser
Kanepejs Kanepejs
Gaze Gaze
De Bondt De Bondt
Reddish Reddish
Piganzoli Piganzoli
Brown Brown
Burnett Burnett
Raileanu Raileanu
Arashiro Arashiro
Gaspar Gaspar
De Laat De Laat
McGill McGill
Dzervus Dzervus
Koide Koide
Vliegen Vliegen
Olei Olei
Onley Onley
Borg Borg
Klyver Klyver
Ruvalcaba Reyes Ruvalcaba Reyes
De Marigny-Lagesse De Marigny-Lagesse
Moiruri Moiruri
Moscon Moscon
Zordan Zordan
Waeytens Waeytens
McCormick McCormick
Grosser Grosser
Watson Watson
Boily Boily
Izagirre Izagirre
Lyu Lyu
Hermans Hermans
Roosen Roosen
Egger Egger
Figueiredo Figueiredo
Dewulf Dewulf
Ma Ma
Brenner Brenner
Paulus Paulus
Le Gac Le Gac
Pithie Pithie
Costiou Costiou
Berhe Berhe
Lund Andresen Lund Andresen
Baudin Baudin
Belohvosciks Belohvosciks
Bystrom Bystrom
Vendrame Vendrame
Hamilton Hamilton
Schönberger Schönberger
Goncalves Goncalves
Khederi Khederi
Bevin Bevin
Kipruto Kipruto
Serrano Serrano
Quevedo Quevedo
Barbero Barbero
Garcia Garcia
Scheit Scheit
Sinkeldam Sinkeldam
Adriamihajanarivo Adriamihajanarivo
Lafay Lafay
Rochas Rochas
Pacher Pacher
Wackermann Wackermann
Doubey Doubey
Rodriguez Rodriguez
Weinstein Weinstein
Le Berre Le Berre
Jensen Jensen
Robov Robov
Hagen Hagen
Tratnik Tratnik
Stoenchev Stoenchev
Evangelos Evangelos
Klahan Klahan
Sillankorva Sillankorva
Conti Conti
Koretzky Koretzky
Skjerping Skjerping
Lunder Lunder
Della Lunga Della Lunga
Christian Christian
Bourgoyne Bourgoyne
Madsen Madsen
Eiking Eiking
Morin Morin
Carr Carr
Majoral Majoral
Aebi Aebi
Artz Artz
Foldager Foldager
Arrieta Arrieta
Arifin Arifin
Cahyadi Cahyadi
Hefnar Hefnar
Pszczolarski Pszczolarski
Rubenis Rubenis
Kusuma Kusuma
Firdaus Firdaus
Van Vliet Van Vliet
Lopez Lopez
Welten Welten
Debesay Debesay
Van Garderen Van Garderen
Abreu Abreu
Ivanov Ivanov
Wallinder Wallinder
Eislers Eislers
Pellaud Pellaud
Schoonbroodt Schoonbroodt
Putti Putti
Skivild Skivild
Tiberi Tiberi
Van Sintmaartensdijk Van Sintmaartensdijk
Garofoli Garofoli
Nikiema Nikiema
Laas Laas
Smit Smit
Aru Aru
Granigan Granigan
Mundle Mundle
Moutsios Moutsios
De Comarmond De Comarmond
Beltran Beltran
Yates Yates
Duchesne Duchesne
Mudgway Mudgway
Welsford Welsford
Diaz Suarez Diaz Suarez
Huera Huera
Thompson Thompson
Guerreiro Guerreiro
Mager Mager
Goossens Goossens
Lehtinen Lehtinen
Campenaerts Campenaerts
Stalberg Stalberg
Osborne Osborne
Van Bekkum Van Bekkum
Govekar Govekar
Moulingui Moulingui
Lecourt De Billot Lecourt De Billot
Pibernik Pibernik
Peng Peng
Centrone Centrone
Murn Murn
Tulett Tulett
Sirironnachai Sirironnachai
Schachmann Schachmann
Altanzul Altanzul
Al-Wahibi Al-Wahibi
Zahiri Zahiri
Ballerstedt Ballerstedt
Alajmi Alajmi
Vinokurov Vinokurov
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 16-11-2024 09:02
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Thanks for another very fine preview, Nemo!
It's our first C2 outing this season and apart from the XP it's all about Paulus (and Le Gac) as in all our C2 races. Let's hope we get some goid points our of the race, though I fear our leaders won't be priorized in positioning and finish well down the ranks. We're looking forward for proper racing anyway 
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| Ollfardh |
Posted on 16-11-2024 09:11
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*grabs some popcorn to watch Moscon and Waeytens*
Changed my sig, this was getting absurd.
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| Caspi |
Posted on 16-11-2024 09:11
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The sponsors are asking for a top 5, but we'll be content with a top 10 due to the strong competition.
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 16-11-2024 09:34
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In planning this was a clear race that suited guys with high mountain stats (guessing the climb at the end has a high MO factor) so lowered expectations here top 10 be nice
This has Guerriero and Lopez written all over it IMO hoping Moscon can be near the front before the end climb to hang onto those guys for a top 5. The rest of our guys don't suit this one maybe Zordan slightly but not expecting any team scoring here
Edit: forgot Lyu and Raillenu too and the high hill guys seem to score well but just not finish the best on that final climb so still expecting the usual Bystrom , Moscon etc.. to be top 10 just whoever has the highest Mountain stat at the end to win |
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| Fabianski |
Posted on 16-11-2024 09:51
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Thanks for mentioning Moscon's 2020 win, Nemo - great memories, as it was our very first classic win 
He didn't do quite as well when coming back in 2022, but a Top 10 should still easily be on the table for him.
Good luck to all!
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 16-11-2024 10:56
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Key for Lopez is just making sure he is still in the peloton when that final climb to the line comes. He hasn't had the best lucky in hilly races so far this season, hoping this race is a turning point.
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 16-11-2024 22:32
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Beltran might have a chance. Yates also strong but I don’t think he quite has the stats to get the win here. Beltran needs to be our focus.
It’ll be a tough race. Good luck everyone and thanks for another great preview!
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| seancoll |
Posted on 16-11-2024 22:44
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Love watching C2 races that we don't have to compete it! The Cervelo depth feels like a huge advantage here and I'll pick Waeytens as my winner pick for absolutely no reason. Guerrero another favorite of mine - maybe this will finally be his race.
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| jt1109 |
Posted on 17-11-2024 12:27
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Can't say I'm too surprised with the result for whatever reasons the game takes those stuff gradients and really gives a lot emphasis to the mountain stat as can be seen by the top 3. But glad to have called the Winner in Guerriero and the 3rd in Lopez finally getting a course that suits him! |
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| Jakstar22 |
Posted on 17-11-2024 12:41
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Really happy with 5th place from Beltran! He had a great race forcing the selection and being rewarded for it! Great work!
Congrats Guerrero for the win and thanks for the great report!
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| ivaneurope |
Posted on 17-11-2024 12:56
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Well, can't say I'm really happy being outside the podium, but beggars can't be choosers anyway, so the result is fine and with Robov and CFH in Top 20 this will give us some ranking points boost. But I wonder the tally would've been greater if Bernard was also involved.
Congrats to Team Würth MODYF and thanks cunego59 for the report.
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| kandesbunzler26 |
Posted on 17-11-2024 13:02
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Congrats Ezee on a fine win for Guerreiro and thanks for the report, cunego!
Paulus doing really good here, this should actually be among his highest scores for us ever.
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| TinxiaS |
Posted on 17-11-2024 13:29
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Supper dissapointing race that Govekar wasn't even able to finish in top 30.
Congrats to winner and thanks for preview and report.
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| Mresuperstar |
Posted on 17-11-2024 13:48
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Nice podium for Lopez! We will take it. Congrats to the winner and thanks for the report!
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| Caspi |
Posted on 17-11-2024 14:51
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Not sure how much I liked our racing. Nice to see us in BOTD when we don't have a favorite for the stage, but De Comarmond just isn't strong enough to make any difference. Nikiema also missed an important split, but luckily the groups came together so he could still provide some depth scoring.
Nevertheless, Laas in top 10 and 17 points. We count that as a success even though we missed our sponsor objective.
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| Booker |
Posted on 17-11-2024 15:59
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Awesome effort by Lyu. Jt, you were pretty much spot on with your prediction. Really good to see the hefty support for Lyu paid off in this race, but to be honest it didn’t even look like Lyu needed it in the main. He was prominent throughout - very cool to see the video, thanks for the excellent write-up as well cunego!
And congrats Ezee
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| sammyt93 |
Posted on 17-11-2024 17:42
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Shame we missed the break, would have been nice to see our local rider up there but he picked the wrong moment to make his move after it was already formed
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| Ezeefreak |
Posted on 18-11-2024 05:22
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Thanks for the report and congrats to everyone else who is satisfied!
Oh Ruben!!! Same words than in the KBK thread but complete different meaning  So far the duell Ruben vs. Ruben in my team goes clearly to Guerreiro. Of course I am super happy about this Win. And also really satisfied how this is going so far for him. He hast the mega stats but he is so versatile that I hoped it would pay of in CT and so far it definitely does!
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| Imladrik |
Posted on 18-11-2024 07:44
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Thanks for the preview and the report!
8th from Lafay is decent, I think, when seeing the forces here. Maybe he was a bit to agressive, and lacked of strength in the end, but that'll be OK.
What is interesting is our depth here, with another top 15, a top 20 and a top 25, and Rodriguez barely missing out one point.
All in all, a good race to finish a pretty good month. Interested to see the rankings!
Congrats for the win Ezee, glad to see this after reporting Zepunkte bad KBK
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